Market Talk / Feb. 5 - Feb. 11

Getting

powerful downstrokes again early on in the Wilshire and the EAFE.....S&P, being as far down as it is, is rather neutral...looking again for the S&P to start its move later on and it will be interesting to see if it does the same as yesterday.....AGG is continuing to show a downstroke...doesn't look to be changing direction anytime soon....

I'm curious on the market suggesting large caps as a good investment at the moment....maybe because they are down and they need to be propped up.....someone is being left holding the bag of shares....
 
Don't get

tsptalk said:
And I thought I was busy. ;)

me wrong Tom, I'm sure you have something to say, but I try to keep independent intentionally....this is good because we may be deducing the same thing or close to it with different methods....if we agree then its good for the board....or one of us may be seeing something new coming our way.....
 
Dollar seems to

continue its strengthening....I would expect to see this continue but cycle because the Feds will not stop raising rates as soon as everyone is expecting....but that is a corner that they have worked themselves into for there are consequences to that....one the price of Oil will go up, which is inflationary....therefore rates will go up again.....therefore oil will go up again.....over and over until something breaks......a bad scenario.....we sort of painted ourselves into a corner here....not good.....:(


MM....I moved there at end of Jan...a week or so ago....saw the market turning its head and went conservative....
 
I see most of the herd is jumping back in stocks, including myself. I hope it works out well for us all. At least we're buying some shares at a slightly lower price.;) Does anyone get the feeling of a head fake? Like Birch says you can't take the ride unless you buy the ticket. After thought; looking at the charts, looks like we're finally seeing some rotation out of small caps into large caps.
 
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anybody willing to prognosticate? Maybe a little range bound trading for next 2 months? surf up 2%, slide down, repeat? Last year's story all over again?

Alternatively, decline, head-fake, resume decline, repeat? I go with the range bound idea until further developments.....
 
chips up here hope the world follows tomm.

http://tinyurl.com/7gksx ....semi's up nicely!
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=^VIX ....vix showing a poss. bounce
come on I fund let's go up 2-3% by the eow!!
tekno

ISA Daily Trade Navigator for 2/08/06
Wednesday morning at 9:15 am
By Mark Young of Equity Guardian Group



Short-Term Sentiment:
Positive, but mixed.

Intermediate-Term Sentiment:
Neutral/Positive.

Longer-term Trend: Positive.

Intermediate-term Trend:
Negative, unconfirmed by breadth.

Short-term (one-day) Signal:
Buy, but we want to be careful. The Rydex Sell urges caution.
We are trading these signals intra-day with KTT subscribers on Yahoo IM--contact us for details.

Ideal ETF Portfolio (tracking portfolio):

50% Money Market.

25% SPY at 127.70
and
25% QQQQ at 42.10

We need a bit less optimism to add to these positions. We were planning on it, but now we're a bit concerned. Much more deterioration and we'll go back flat. We'll advise.

Message Board Sentiment
The message board sentiment poll now shows Bulls at 53% and Bears at 26%. These pollees are right more often than not, so this is Bullish, but this is a bit excessive. Of course, the CSCO blow it is obvious and the market IS up. The Actual Position Poll shows 52% at least partially long, and 32% at least partially short. There are just 16.13% fully short Bears. This is well below my 20% fully short threshold and the fully long Bulls are way too high given how ugly this market is. This places us at risk, but I have a theory that these players are so short-term that they are now trading counter trend (because it works). This data may be less useful than it has been until we get going on a trend. We'll advise.

Options Sentiment
The equity P/C ratio fell to a still Bullish 0.67. The OEX PC ratio sits at a Bullish 0.80. The OEX $-weighted Put/Call data from Hamzei Analytics rose to a modestly Bullish 2.07. The QQQQ $-Weighted P/C ratio came in at a VERY Bullish 3.10. I'm paying more attention to this tool since the prior low readings pretty much pegged the the top, last Friday's rally, and Thursday's decline. The 10-day P/C ratio is at a neutral 0.86. The daily P/C ratio is at a neutral 0.95. ISEE came in with a Neutral reading of 153. I'd have liked to have seen this lower, but it's OK. This indicator is contrarian; over 200 is too optimistic, under 100 too pessimistic. The options data suggest that we will rally. I'm paying close attention to the QQQQ data, particularly. We'll try to post a chart of the $-weighted P/C ratio on the ISA Navigator board on TTHQ shortly.

General Public Polls
LowRisk reported 43% Bulls up from 34% Bulls and 30% Bears down from 41% Bears. This is showing rising Bullishness in a sloppy market. This isn't compelling, but it's not Bullish. Last week, AAII reported 44.7% (vs. 31%) Bulls and 33.33% (vs. 33%) Bears. This is a decent shift to the Bullish side, but nothing too dramatic. I expect some more dramatically and persistently higher readings before the real top, but we have to be alert. Investors Intelligence reported a drop to 52.6% (vs. 53.7%) Bulls, and a rise to 25.8% (vs. 25.3%) Bears. This is about as expected but it could be better. We de-emphasize this measure for short and intermediate-term trading.

Rydex Sentiment
The Rydex Dynamic Bull funds saw $65MM of inflows, while the Dynamic Bear Funds had inflows of $6MM. Overall, the fund shifts were rather mixed. The RSO showed a solid Bullish shift on a decline. That's a Sell, but such was entirely due to a LARGE Bullish shift into Velocity. The Cisco news already validates this move too. This data muddies the water, but I think that we have to discount it a bit due to the nature of the shifts--one big timer was likely to blame and if history is any guide, these big Velocity and Venture shifts are as often as not a poor fade. Yesterday's Buy is probably holding sway today. Bigger picture, I believe that we will see all of the Bearish shifts from October reversed prior to a really good top.
 
Hey Tek,

2day looked like a great day to put some capital to work in the i fund. we'll know tomm. but if the overseas markets trade in sympathy with our own then we should be raking in some green tomm.

dollar due for a bout of weakness too. went 40/60 gi b4 noon 2day. at the time our markets were mixed, but no panic selling to b seen. would've pushed more in if i knew how we'd end up at the close, but i'm not complaining!

r/coolhand
 
Daily Yak

The Kingdom of TSP
Daily Edition
Feb. 08, 2006

Yak, Doodles, Tea Leaves, and The Tin Box.

Kingdom Yak:
Market Yak............ Socks advance on good earnings and lower lube.
Other Yak.............. Lube supplies goin up, pricing goin down.

Doodles:
Socks................... S&P 500 ($SPX)
Closed at.............. 1265.65, up -10.87
Money flow............ +0.039, decreasing.
Stops................... NA.
Averages............... -1.01, decreasing.
Slow STO.............. +19.37, increasing.
Overbought/sold..... [70] 47.1 [30]

Lube..................... Light Crude (NYM)
Closed at............... 62.55, dn -0.54
Markers:................ <60 = ok, 60-65 = worry, >65 = critical.

Tea leaves:
Charts and Stuff..... Yellow

The Tin Box:
Position................. 100%G.
 
Market Yak............ Socks advance on good earnings and lower lube (quote)

Interesting? If your socks advance and your setting in the Tin Box that means we may need lube to cut the smell there! LOL!!!

Just kidding Spaf! I enjoy Kingdom very much!! Keep up the good work!
 
I herd that!

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Show-me said:
How did the I fund go UP 1 cent? Me thinks we got screwed.:mad:

Today the MSCI was down (0.992%), yesterday it was down (0.268%).
I don't see how you can account for any fair valuation that would give the I fund a penny today. :mad:

Not to worry Show-me, Japan is already up over 1% and Australia is up too. Now if Greenspan didn't mess it up too badly with his loose lips at the Lehman Brothers party http://yahoo.reuters.com/news/NewsA...90_2006-02-08_22-34-04_N08102472&related=true , causing the dollar to strengthen in the face of some resistence, tomorrow should be green for the I fund.
 
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I'm content with $0.01. I had feared it would be up more after watching the EFA graph at the bottom of the page. (I bought I Fund last night when EFA was still negative.) Think of it this way - I Fund is still down $0.37 over the last week, so it was still a good buy today.
 
vectorman said:
Today the MSCI was down (0.992%), yesterday it was down (0.268%).
I don't see how you can account for any fair valuation that would give the I fund a penny today. :mad:

We see this discussion over and over.....

Is the basic problem that the plot that runs in real time on the TSP Talk pages is actually an ETF? Therefore, the ups/downs that it registers are really indications of interest in the ETF, and not real returns from the underlying International performance?....which, afterall, finished trading hours ago.

Just trying to figure out the whole thing myself.....

Added:
For instance, if I can guess the confusion.....today the EAFE plot on the TSPTalk page ended +0.36%, which should obviously be more than 1 cent. But I don't think that the plot is a direct indicator of how the I-Fund did.....but rather what the ETF did. (Am I making sense? :D)
 
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TiCKed said:
Just trying to figure out the whole thing myself.....

This was unusual couple of days for the I fund. If you follow the MSCI EAFE on Morgan Stanley's web site (www.msci.com/equity/index2.html) you can almost always know what the I fund's closing quote will be. Roughly once every three or four weeks, the TSP board will adjust the I fund price. This is explained on the TSP web site and has been explained several times in various I fund threads on this board. Usually the TSP board will re-adjust the price within a day or two but sometime they toy around with it for a few days. This is apparently one of those instances. Rest assured they always get back on track within a few days. Yesterday the I fund went down 14 cents when it should have gone down 5 cents. They owed us 9 cents. Today it should have gone down about 18 cents minus the 9 cents they owed us but instead it went up 1 cent. So in effect, the I fund now owes about ten cents back. It will even out in a day or two. It always does.

Dave
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Show-me said:
How did the I fund go UP 1 cent? Me thinks we got screwed.:mad:

The Nikkei was down 2.68%. I'm sure that played into it.

But don't worry, we should be seeing GREEN tomorrow!:cool:

God Bless... and BOOYAH!:D
 
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