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Dogdaddy
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Nothing better than a big fat BLT with fresh garden tomatoes...that is unless you consider Fried Green Tomatoes (also a great movie by that name). I eat a lot of FGT's here in Colorado because our season is so late and it takes forever for the tomatoes to ripen. My crafty Lab has also learned to snag them the day before they're ready to harvest so my vine ripened tomatoe crop is fairly sparse !
Nick
Nothing better than a big fat BLT with fresh garden tomatoes...that is unless you consider Fried Green Tomatoes (also a great movie by that name). I eat a lot of FGT's here in Colorado because our season is so late and it takes forever for the tomatoes to ripen. My crafty Lab has also learned to snag them the day before they're ready to harvest so my vine ripened tomatoe crop is fairly sparse !
Nick
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DMA wrote:
Well I must say I have heard about that and it had me concerned. However, the EAFE listed at the top here on Tom's page says it was up all day and finished up.:? So I trust the graph at the top of the page. Perhaps the EAFE takes into account the money exchange or what,I do not know. The graph at the top gives me reason to hope. Will find out when the gains or losses are posted.:^ In the end that is what counts, the money in the bank.
DMA wrote:
learning wrote:Would be very surprised is the EAFE fund will be up for today.Well I will be out of the I fund tommorow. It looks like a good time to bail to me. The EAFE fund is up today and the dollar is down so far.Now, the Euro is in for some possible problems as they had France and another country not sign off on their constitution. Throw on top of that there is talk that they may reduce their intrest rates and that could hurt the Euro. This would make the dollar worth more. Were coming up to a Fedmeeting and the dollar seems to improve until the meeting. Other side of the coin I have not seen the job report but heard that it helped the Euro today. Perhaps the Euro will continue the rally. I do not have that adventure in me.
SARA come on out and play. You appear to have a good grasp on the I fund what areyou up to.
RGDS and be careful, its your retirement. Just my two cents.
Japan (.26) was down and so was EVERY Euroland country.
UK -.44, CAC -.52, DAX -.42, etc, etc, etc.
USD was down but that is a tough hill to climb for a gain, IMHO.
Well I must say I have heard about that and it had me concerned. However, the EAFE listed at the top here on Tom's page says it was up all day and finished up.:? So I trust the graph at the top of the page. Perhaps the EAFE takes into account the money exchange or what,I do not know. The graph at the top gives me reason to hope. Will find out when the gains or losses are posted.:^ In the end that is what counts, the money in the bank.
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Hope ya get a gain.
Five times this year I was in the I fund and the index was up. Once .833 and I got no gain or a loss.
Net lose for year with the magic accounting around 12.5K.
I have NO idea how the countries were down so big and the index posted a gain.
It confuses me more then the G fund.
Hope ya get a gain.
Five times this year I was in the I fund and the index was up. Once .833 and I got no gain or a loss.
Net lose for year with the magic accounting around 12.5K.I have NO idea how the countries were down so big and the index posted a gain.
It confuses me more then the G fund.
teknobucks
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DMA wrote:
good grief u guys need to go with the trend....it's time to melt up! perhaps you have not heard we are having a farewell to greenspan rally and your invited.....
hells bells if u say the market is gonna crash every day , some day (and pleasedon't hold your breath)u will be right!
do me a favor and post on here that we will have a stellar week....it will be sure to drive this puppy down to a re-entry point 4 a few of us.:^
DMA wrote:
DMA/techHope ya get a gain.
Five times this year I was in the I fund and the index was up. Once .833 and I got no gain or a loss.
I have NO idea how the countries were down so big and the index posted a gain.
It confuses me more then the G fund.
good grief u guys need to go with the trend....it's time to melt up! perhaps you have not heard we are having a farewell to greenspan rally and your invited.....
hells bells if u say the market is gonna crash every day , some day (and pleasedon't hold your breath)u will be right!
do me a favor and post on here that we will have a stellar week....it will be sure to drive this puppy down to a re-entry point 4 a few of us.:^
Spaf
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The Kingdom of TSP
Daily
Market News, Doodles, Tea Leaves & Yak Date June 6th, Closing
Market News.
News: Market in la-la land waiting for big chief to yak!
Doodles and Tea Leaves.
Doodles:
S&P 500 (Index)
Closing at 1197.51 up +1.49
CMF (money flow) at0.320, up.
RSI (strength) at57.8, up.
MACD (trend) at 8.17, dn, bullish.
Nymex (Crude oil)
Closing at 54.49 dn -0.54
Tea Leaves: Green
Yak.
Remarks: Holding 0/100 (60C, 40S). Trailing stop at 1180.
The Kingdom of TSP
Daily
Market News, Doodles, Tea Leaves & Yak Date June 6th, Closing
Market News.
News: Market in la-la land waiting for big chief to yak!
Doodles and Tea Leaves.
Doodles:
S&P 500 (Index)
Closing at 1197.51 up +1.49
CMF (money flow) at0.320, up.
RSI (strength) at57.8, up.
MACD (trend) at 8.17, dn, bullish.
Nymex (Crude oil)
Closing at 54.49 dn -0.54
Tea Leaves: Green
Yak.
Remarks: Holding 0/100 (60C, 40S). Trailing stop at 1180.
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teknobucks wrote:
Greenspan says markets signalling weakness
I listened to his speak to China. He has lost control and he is painted into a box.
Just like 2000.
"The economic and financial world is changing in ways that we still do not fully comprehend," Mr Greenspan said.
Mr Greenspan said: "One prominent hypothesis is that the markets are signalling economic weakness. This is certainly a credible notion."
Mr Greenspan, in remarks prepared for delivery via satellite to a conference in China, pointed to the "unusual behaviour" of market-determined long-term interest rates.
Three months from now you are going to be saying I had my chance to get out of the market but I will wait until I get even again. JustAugust 2000.
Fairly clear to me. Global recession.
Do youever stop to realize that the NASDAQ is still down over 70%.
What are you so excited about??? S&P 500 is down nearly 50%.
Everyone that put money into theindex funds in 1998 and left the money there is still down over 21% on that money.
:shock::shock::shock::shock: USD hitting multi month highs and oil over 54 and you think the trade balance report is going to be good?
When thecentral banker of the world is confused, why should we take your advance to go 100% into stocks?
Not to scare anyone. I am just pointing out facts. The Fed Chair is scratching his head. Yeah lets put all our money in the stock market.
Doesn't this smack of 2000 again, just a little??? If it does not you have a very short memory.
teknobucks wrote:
Greenspan says markets signalling weakness
I listened to his speak to China. He has lost control and he is painted into a box.
Just like 2000.
"The economic and financial world is changing in ways that we still do not fully comprehend," Mr Greenspan said.
Mr Greenspan said: "One prominent hypothesis is that the markets are signalling economic weakness. This is certainly a credible notion."
Mr Greenspan, in remarks prepared for delivery via satellite to a conference in China, pointed to the "unusual behaviour" of market-determined long-term interest rates.
Three months from now you are going to be saying I had my chance to get out of the market but I will wait until I get even again. JustAugust 2000.
Fairly clear to me. Global recession.Do youever stop to realize that the NASDAQ is still down over 70%.
What are you so excited about??? S&P 500 is down nearly 50%.
Everyone that put money into theindex funds in 1998 and left the money there is still down over 21% on that money.
:shock::shock::shock::shock: USD hitting multi month highs and oil over 54 and you think the trade balance report is going to be good?
When thecentral banker of the world is confused, why should we take your advance to go 100% into stocks?
Doesn't this smack of 2000 again, just a little??? If it does not you have a very short memory.
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Lets put it this way.
NASDAQ could go up 100% tomorrow and still not reach it old highs.
It is a conundrum to me why you get so excited during a rate tighting cycle.
Remember 2000, remember 1994??
Like you forget history and make up a pack of doo that will make it any different this time then the last time.
He who repeats past failures -is doomed to failure.
Lets put it this way.
NASDAQ could go up 100% tomorrow and still not reach it old highs.
It is a conundrum to me why you get so excited during a rate tighting cycle.
Remember 2000, remember 1994??
Like you forget history and make up a pack of doo that will make it any different this time then the last time.
He who repeats past failures -is doomed to failure.
Spaf
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DMA wrote:
But, got my stop set and helmet on just in case!
Have a good one there DMA! So far the water is fine, and got my eye on any sharks!
Rgds, and be careful!
Spaf
DMA wrote:
Whose waiting 3 months? Some of us are position traders. We invest when the market goes up, and go to secure funds when it trends down (with fundamentals and techncal analysis). No this is not the NASD bubble of 2000! It's just an advancing primary movement of bullish in a channel trend. Right now some of us are just surfing the channel.Three months from now you are going to be saying I had my chance to get out of the market but I will wait until I get even again.Not to scare anyone. I am just pointing out facts. The Fed Chair is scratching his head. Yeah lets put all our money in the stock market. Doesn't this smack of 2000 again, just a little???
But, got my stop set and helmet on just in case!
Rgds, and be careful!
Spaf
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Spaf wrote:
All is not fine. :shock:
Spaf wrote:
Then why is Greenspan throwing his hands up in confusion?DMA wrote:So far the water is fine, and got my eye on any sharks!Three months from now you are going to be saying I had my chance to get out of the market but I will wait until I get even again.Not to scare anyone. I am just pointing out facts. The Fed Chair is scratching his head. Yeah lets put all our money in the stock market. Doesn't this smack of 2000 again, just a little???
Rgds, and be careful!
All is not fine. :shock:
Spaf
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DMA wrote:
The buy-an-hold US market strategy of pre-2000 has forever changed. Now we are in world that few have a handle on. Sorry to say, TSP participants are taking a unplanned retirement crash. This board with the bulls and bears provides a forum for some participants to rescue their hard earned savings!
Rgds! Spaf
DMA wrote:
All is never fine! The Fed is controlling "Rats" the third Horseman. He rides a big horse!Spaf wrote:Then why is Greenspan throwing his hands up in confusion?DMA wrote:So far the water is fine, and got my eye on any sharks!Three months from now you are going to be saying I had my chance to get out of the market but I will wait until I get even again.Not to scare anyone. I am just pointing out facts. The Fed Chair is scratching his head. Yeah lets put all our money in the stock market. Doesn't this smack of 2000 again, just a little???
Rgds, and be careful!
All is not fine. :shock:
The buy-an-hold US market strategy of pre-2000 has forever changed. Now we are in world that few have a handle on. Sorry to say, TSP participants are taking a unplanned retirement crash. This board with the bulls and bears provides a forum for some participants to rescue their hard earned savings!
Rgds!
Spaf
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Japan has some of the brightest investment minds in the world.
During Greenspans speak they sold off. I.E. they are not buying it.
Remember when we have the bang up job reports (birth/death rate) and the U.S. rallies and Japan sells off then the U.S. sells off on Monday? That is because they havea real clue what is going on.
Good luck.
Japan has some of the brightest investment minds in the world.
During Greenspans speak they sold off. I.E. they are not buying it.
Remember when we have the bang up job reports (birth/death rate) and the U.S. rallies and Japan sells off then the U.S. sells off on Monday? That is because they havea real clue what is going on.
Good luck.
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Well DMA, Thanks. The good wishes worked. Yahoo amended the charts at the top of the page. Hmmmm Still finished up for the day. Got my cent up and I'm out. Though, I'm looking to get back into the I fund later. Just wait for the Fed to speak and see the money markets. If they go up tell the Fed speaks and start a down turn then perhaps I will go in. However, another factor I want to see is the EU going to cut its rates. Does that, then I have a problem. Market over there should go up, but, money should go down. Hmm
Tom has made a point for a while about the 94 market and today’s market. He has been saying it for a while and it has been holding. If it continues may be a good chance to make some serious money.
Spaf called it right. Channel surfing is what we are doing. I have been trying to ride the short term waves. Done ok. Not as good as most, not as bad as others. How they do is not important, it's how each of us do. Translation- it's your retirement, you get the reward for your success and failure, not for what others did. We are just a group of people trying to help one another understand the market. Not even the so called experts seem to have it mastered. I like the dart method myself. Luck to all.
Side note. Think of a ROTH account on top of the TSP account. There is more money in that in the long run. Just get the matching funds in the TSP at least. If you can not handle a ROTH, (add money, leave it alone, find a fund to put it in, etc...) go for broke in the TSP. Just a thought, do as you will your retirement. Do what is best for you. One strategy does not work for all.
Well DMA, Thanks. The good wishes worked. Yahoo amended the charts at the top of the page. Hmmmm Still finished up for the day. Got my cent up and I'm out. Though, I'm looking to get back into the I fund later. Just wait for the Fed to speak and see the money markets. If they go up tell the Fed speaks and start a down turn then perhaps I will go in. However, another factor I want to see is the EU going to cut its rates. Does that, then I have a problem. Market over there should go up, but, money should go down. Hmm
Tom has made a point for a while about the 94 market and today’s market. He has been saying it for a while and it has been holding. If it continues may be a good chance to make some serious money.
Spaf called it right. Channel surfing is what we are doing. I have been trying to ride the short term waves. Done ok. Not as good as most, not as bad as others. How they do is not important, it's how each of us do. Translation- it's your retirement, you get the reward for your success and failure, not for what others did. We are just a group of people trying to help one another understand the market. Not even the so called experts seem to have it mastered. I like the dart method myself. Luck to all.
Side note. Think of a ROTH account on top of the TSP account. There is more money in that in the long run. Just get the matching funds in the TSP at least. If you can not handle a ROTH, (add money, leave it alone, find a fund to put it in, etc...) go for broke in the TSP. Just a thought, do as you will your retirement. Do what is best for you. One strategy does not work for all.
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Then why is Greenspan throwing his hands up in confusion?
I don't know but maybe he is so old he can't find it to go to the bathroom. He may bedrooling over his 3 year high social security check, he could possibly get. He is possibly CERS so he is thinking of cashing in on that sick leave he has built up. Maybe he can't see to pick his nose.Maybe that is why he has his hands up in confusion. LOL! 
Greenspans Secretary,"Sir, the bathroom is on this side of the hall."
Then why is Greenspan throwing his hands up in confusion?
I don't know but maybe he is so old he can't find it to go to the bathroom. He may bedrooling over his 3 year high social security check, he could possibly get. He is possibly CERS so he is thinking of cashing in on that sick leave he has built up. Maybe he can't see to pick his nose.
Maybe that is why he has his hands up in confusion. LOL! Greenspans Secretary,"Sir, the bathroom is on this side of the hall."
The_Technician
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Love to help being positive...its just hard to do at the current time....gotta hand it to the market guys....they could squeek oil out of a turnip if they tried hard enough....
I would prop up the market if I had control and money in it......it just another eye opener to alert you......sell on the "fabricated good news"......of course you should have noticed that there hasn't been any "real" great product developments of late to drive a future economy.....
I can't say what will happen tomorrow, I'm like Greengeans right now....it doesn't make any "real sense"....only that there are forces at work that are working hard at it......without any reality to justify the market increase
Love to help being positive...its just hard to do at the current time....gotta hand it to the market guys....they could squeek oil out of a turnip if they tried hard enough....
I would prop up the market if I had control and money in it......it just another eye opener to alert you......sell on the "fabricated good news"......of course you should have noticed that there hasn't been any "real" great product developments of late to drive a future economy.....
I can't say what will happen tomorrow, I'm like Greengeans right now....it doesn't make any "real sense"....only that there are forces at work that are working hard at it......without any reality to justify the market increase
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Hang CSRS he is an executive level. He will get 100% plus benifits when he goes. He has talked about staying in past January now. Have not heard much about that. I want him to make up his mind and Bush to say who he will nominate to replace him. Let the market get use to whoever will come in. Market is off today. I want that pull back. Watching Tom. Spaf kicking tail there. :!
Hang CSRS he is an executive level. He will get 100% plus benifits when he goes. He has talked about staying in past January now. Have not heard much about that. I want him to make up his mind and Bush to say who he will nominate to replace him. Let the market get use to whoever will come in. Market is off today. I want that pull back. Watching Tom. Spaf kicking tail there. :!
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coolhand wrote:
Before the comments they were looking like a positive day.
After the comments it was a grind to the close.
See the crap out in their second session? Last 15 seconds someone pushed the buy button or it really would of been a shocker. Those same last 15 second turn around and short the market at the open the next day. 30 seconds of work for a great gain.
coolhand wrote:
That was their fourth or fifth day in a row down.
Before the comments they were looking like a positive day.
After the comments it was a grind to the close.
See the crap out in their second session? Last 15 seconds someone pushed the buy button or it really would of been a shocker. Those same last 15 second turn around and short the market at the open the next day. 30 seconds of work for a great gain.
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