Playing the I fund

Honestly, it's tough enough to keep a real good pulse charted on US markets... let alone the internationals. Here's how I do it:
Click here: http://quote.yahoo.com/m2?u
and click here: http://money.cnn.com/data/premarket/
Lots of black numbers = GOOD.
Lots of red numbers = BAD.
Today... me see'em many red numbers, kemosabe.
Pilgrim said:
Lots of talk on this board about U.S stocks heading for a retest of June lows. Is anyone following Europe and Asia closely enough to say whether they will follow, or do we just need a small relaxation in International tensions and oil to get a 3% snap up?
 
roguewave said:
Well, it seems we are reaching some sort of impasse between the "market" and the World's Central Bankers. It seems that the Central Bankers are playing a little bit of hardball reference interest rates and money supply. The market is wanting more of the juice and the bankers don't want to supply it at a faster rate, thus a brutal liquidity drain(15% or more) could take place over the next few months in both stock and bond markets(actually all markets). Until I get a much more clear direction of the impending iceberg the CB's want to steer our ship toward, I'll have to take some sort of refuge even if it means giving up some purchasing power. Good luck all.

I will be transferring 100% to G before the deadline today.


The above post was May 31, 2006.


Let me try and bound "..the next few months.." so as not to come across like a Mystic. I'm perceiving(high interest rates and oil prices will pretty much guarantee this) that we're in the initial stages of a more serious correction in equities throughout the world and this will last going forward the remaining part of this year and into the beginning of next year. HOWEVER, this could all change dependent on many scenarios involving differing policy shifts by the world's CB's. We could have a free for all in interest rate policy where each CB goes "rogue" thus doing away with what appears to be an ongoing coordinated interest rate event. Gold and oil(and commodities in general) should resume their bull markets for the next decade or so(probably longer).

Things should get pretty interesting as they pertain to bonds. Pay attention, it is my speculation that, Paulson's calling the tunes while Bernanke dances to the beat. They will do whatever it takes to protect their bonds and a MAJOR, if not ONLY way to do this, is by raising interest rates to entice those bond investors to keep holding them. Stay tuned as this is an ongoing work in progress... Good luck.
 
roguewave said:
"WHY is the dollar rising?"
What's oil priced in?

Nope. I'd bet that people are looking at more inflationary pressure which leads to another Fed rate hike. I think we are seeing the next potiential rate hike being priced in right now.
 
Just glad to be out of stocks for today. Looking for the big rally coming up next week, so I'm ready to board the I Fund train next Tuesday. Got my tickets already!
 
I am a newbie, rookie. Found this site through yahoo search, stopped and took a look and signed up. I hope to learn from you people.
I just transferred today from I fund to G fund 100%. A few days ago I had $14196. today it showed down to $13768. so I decided to go with G. Was this a good move or bad move? The way things look in the Middle-East things might get worst later next week.
I am going to retire in Oct. I will be 56yrs. after 30yrs with communication center. I will do some part time work, 20 hrs a week. Thanks hope to learn from you guys.
 
recliner,

I would go right back in ASAP and ride this puppy and increase my contributions to the max and DCA this I fund as long as you can. The G fund will get you nowhere. You are being presented with good pricing so don't be shy. I mean the previous low was $17.73 and that could be the bottom - take as much risk as you can.

Dennis
 
Birchtree said:
recliner,

I would go right back in ASAP and ride this puppy and increase my contributions to the max and DCA this I fund as long as you can. The G fund will get you nowhere. You are being presented with good pricing so don't be shy. I mean the previous low was $17.73 and that could be the bottom - take as much risk as you can.

Dennis

Recliner, I wouldn't get in ASAP and stay in....this thing failed to exceed its recent high the first week of Jun and thus it should drop even more. I'm fully expecting it to drop like a brick....Birchtree is a permabull, which means he only stays in and never gets out, even if the market is losing him money bigtime.....he is fully expecting everything to just go up and up and up....has been for the past year.....

Believe me, this thing looks like it could drop significantly.....another 10% wouldn't surprise me......but there are times when a shorty could be very rewarding...

Birchy Birchy Birchy...sometimes you really make me think you are being a paid poster.....sometimes....
 
Dollar rises as unrest roils Middle East
The dollar continued its rise against other major currencies despite a surprise drop in US retail sales last month as violence continued to roil the Middle East. Some traders said investors were buying dollars as a safe haven bet as geopolitical fears mount amid the widening conflict in the Middle East. Israel on Friday continued its wide-ranging military offensive against Lebanon as Hezbollah guerrillas fired rockets into northern Israel. The euro declined to 1.2651 dollars at 2100 GMT from 1.2691 dollars late in New York on Thursday. The US currency meanwhile climbed to 116.15 yen from 115.37 yen late on Thursday, and also notched up gains against the British pound and Swiss franc.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/2006071...CsLPeWb.HQA;_ylu=X3oDMTA2ZGZwam4yBHNlYwNmYw--
 
The_Technician said:
Recliner, I wouldn't get in ASAP and stay in....this thing failed to exceed its recent high the first week of Jun and thus it should drop even more. I'm fully expecting it to drop like a brick....Birchtree is a permabull, which means he only stays in and never gets out, even if the market is losing him money bigtime.....he is fully expecting everything to just go up and up and up....has been for the past year.....

Believe me, this thing looks like it could drop significantly.....another 10% wouldn't surprise me......but there are times when a shorty could be very rewarding...

Birchy Birchy Birchy...sometimes you really make me think you are being a paid poster.....sometimes....


Technician,

I understand that you are a Bear. I currently get a couple of them and I pay to here why they are bearish. They show me Technically and logically why the Market could go down.

However, I also get Newsletters from some Bulls and they think buying at current prices longer term is a good buy. Now, I don't think Birchtree is giving Bad advice it's just Bullish advice as yours is Bearish. Wouldn't you agree with that?

The list below is reasons the Market could rally. I will agree that the risk reward is high.

An end to the violence in Israel and Lebanon should pave the way for a higher market next week. IMHO, I do not believe this will escalate into a higher-scale “war.”

Quarterly contributions for calendar-year defined benefits pension plans are due today. And this cash should be immediately put to work in the stock market on Monday of next week.

The Barnes Index has plunged significantly with the recent roll-in of the latest earnings reports. The latest reading of 51.20 is a decline of a whopping 10.40 points from Wednesday at the close.

The latest spike in oil prices have mostly been caused geopolitical issues – and chances are that Ben Bernanke will take this fully into account at the next Fed meeting on August 8th.

Chances are now that the Fed will not raise again on August 8th. This should cause an immediate rally in stock prices.

Share buybacks and cash acquisitions by companies and private equity investors have been on a record tear recently – even up to as recently as this morning with the announced $1.7 billion buyout of Petco.

Bob Brinker also thinks buying at these prices for longer-term investors is ok. Could Bob be wrong? Yes!

I enjoy reading both Bullish and Bearish comments, but what does a paid poster mean? Birchtree seeks no gains from giving us his opinions, which I’m happy to get along with Tom’s and many more on this board.

Birchtree has been Bullish since I joined this board and has never waviered his opinion.

So Tech keep posting. I do read your post, but when you disagree just state that it's your opinion and why the person you DISAGREE WITH COULD BE INCORRECT. As we all know all the posts on this Board are just opinions.

Since you only have two choices up or down everyone gets it right some of the time.Take care and Play Fair. We need are Big Bull Posting as we need you.

Have a nice weekend. If you would like to comment on why the market should rally comments please do. Maybe I will go back to cash again soon. I do have very short stops in place.

recliner,

Some on the Board are long and some are in cash. The question for you is this.

What kind of investor are you? If your are a low risk kinda guy, maybe you should be in cash. Since you are close to retirement that must be considered. If you don't mind taking risk you could buy at these prices. However, good chance we could go lower before going higher.

The point is NO ONE, NO ONE, NO ONE KNOWS WHAT MR. MARKET WILL DO.

Everthing you read here is opinion. As for my above questions to you. Start
following Tom if you are a conservative investor, and if you are agressive investor/trader check out the board leaders. Most on the Board are traders. By that I mean they make frequent transfers. Some are Trend Trades longer term trades, but not many long term investors. Birchtree is one of the few.
Since he is a long term investor his advice might turn out good for you. Tech is talking about short-term trading. The Market will go down before it goes up.

Somtimes I want to send money to some of the the board leaders because they get it right so much. Again, the point is you must decided, and NO ONE, NO ONE, NO ONE KNOWS FOR SURE.

I will say this Birchtree, Wheels, FundSurfer, etc.... Could not have acquired their current wealth by being incorrect all of the time.

Good luck in whatever you do. Investing in the stock market has risk! I'm also getting close to retirement and can't wait to start spending my TSP money.
 
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recliner,

Oh, where to find the Board Leaders. I check here daily as many others do...

http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/forumdisplay.php?f=51

http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/attachment.php?attachmentid=992&d=1151762147

http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/attachment.php?attachmentid=969&d=1149964317

Hope this helps and take some time to read other sections of the Board. Also read Toms and the Sharks prior daily comments.

Take Care! Good Investing/Trading

I did forget to welcome you. So, WELCOME RECLINER!!!

I'm sure others will comment on your question.
 
Gilligan said:
Japanese financial markets will be closed Monday, July 17, a national holiday (Marine Day).

Thanks for that little bit of info. I was looking at CNN Money's World Markets and thought they closed today -1.67%. Now I see that was still from Friday.

I jumped all in the I on Friday, hoping for a little bounce up today or tomorrow. I figured the quick rise in the dollar would be corrected this week. Of course, I wasn't thinking about Israel and Lebanon. At least it looks like the world markets are down just a little. Maybe this slowdown in the downward momentum will lead to a bit of an up for tomorrow.
 
Dollar rallies on safe-haven buying
Markets await Federal Reserve chairman's testimony


By Wanfeng Zhou, MarketWatch
Last Update: 9:39 AM ET Jul 17, 2006




NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- The dollar rallied to a three-month high versus the yen and almost three-week highs versus the euro, British pound and Swiss franc early Monday, continuing to benefit from safe-haven flows amid concerns over Middle Eastern tensions.

"As news out of the Middle East became increasingly grim the dollar gained strength, benefiting from continued flight to safety flows," said Boris Schlossberg, senior currency strategist at FXCM. "In an ever more uncertain geo-political climate, traders flocked to the comfort and liquidity of the currency from the sole remaining superpower in the world."

The dollar index, which tracks the U.S. currency against a handful of the world's major currencies, also rose to its highest level since June 23 at 86.99. It was last at 86.94.

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Is today the day to buy I fund? Looks like we will be down for the 5th day in a row. One of these days, (maybe tomorrow??) the news will shift just a little and the I fund will snap up like a coiled spring. IS TODAY THE DAY TO BUY???
 
Hi Pilgrim,

odds are a little more in your favor every day it goes down, the next day will be up, as you allude to. Definitely a gamble, put a couple of chips on I and you might get lucky, if you are so inclined.

Pilgrim said:
Dollar rallies on safe-haven buying
Markets await Federal Reserve chairman's testimony


By Wanfeng Zhou, MarketWatch
Last Update: 9:39 AM ET Jul 17, 2006




NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- The dollar rallied to a three-month high versus the yen and almost three-week highs versus the euro, British pound and Swiss franc early Monday, continuing to benefit from safe-haven flows amid concerns over Middle Eastern tensions.

"As news out of the Middle East became increasingly grim the dollar gained strength, benefiting from continued flight to safety flows," said Boris Schlossberg, senior currency strategist at FXCM. "In an ever more uncertain geo-political climate, traders flocked to the comfort and liquidity of the currency from the sole remaining superpower in the world."

The dollar index, which tracks the U.S. currency against a handful of the world's major currencies, also rose to its highest level since June 23 at 86.99. It was last at 86.94.

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Is today the day to buy I fund? Looks like we will be down for the 5th day in a row. One of these days, (maybe tomorrow??) the news will shift just a little and the I fund will snap up like a coiled spring. IS TODAY THE DAY TO BUY???
 
For those of us who are already in, it would be nice for an FV tonight keeping the I from dropping too far. Then a coiled spring tomorrow without the FV correction would make it extra nice.
 
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