Playing the I fund

[Birchtree]

Sure FV is designed to go both directions - everyone paid a higher price today and the lock is set and watch the roll over - trapped on high ground. You see this is welcome to me because when my wife's DCA comes in we'll be at lower prices, perhaps markedly lower prices. I remember back in January when the Nikkei did 3 round trip 1000 pointers. Awesome it was.

 

[Oldcoin]

I just found this info on Bloomberg.com:



I just haven't been able to find this symbol on stockcharts.com

I've sent in two e-mails to stockcharts, yeah it's a free site but it would be nice. I'm looking for an alternative also. Been using the chart from Yahoo but it's not the same and doesn't update during the day.

 

[Oldcoin]

Okay I'm looking at the following until we get something better:

EEC - Morgan Stanley Capital Intl EAFE
EFA - EAFE Index I shares
BTAEX - Deusche EAFE Equith Index Premier

I'll try to find out if we can use these.

 

[Oldcoin]

Holdings I Fund MSCI EAFE BTAEX
BP 2.18 1.98 2.09
HSBC 1.77 1.70 1.73
Toyota 1.47 1.31 1.29
GlaxoSmithK 1.44 1.38 1.41
Total (Fr) 1.37 1.26 1.24
Vodafone 1.33 0.98 1.12
Royal Dutch P 1.21 1.14 1.15
Novartis 1.19 1.09 1.10
Nestle 1.18 1.15 1.11
Roche 1.03 1.09 1.01

These are the top ten holdings for the funds above. No luck finding ECC always came up with the MSCI EAFE when I tried to research the fund.

 

[ATCJeff]

Seeing alot of red overseas....

http://quote.yahoo.com/m2?u

Could be a tough day in the US.

Jeff

 

[Robo5555]

Yeap....a lot of red. Thanks for the warning...I'm sitting on the sidelines waiting to jump back in....the hard part is when to get back in.

 

[Robo5555]

and where to jump back in....I like the I fund ..but thinking in the very short term the C or S funds are tempting right now...any opinions?? Thanks!

 

[ATCJeff]

and where to jump back in....I like the I fund ..but thinking in the very short term the C or S funds are tempting right now...any opinions?? Thanks!

I'm bearish for the very short term. I think a pull back in the S&P (c fund) to the 50 dma is underway.

Jeff

 

[fedgolfer]

My finger will be on the trigger... for the S&P (sorry if this is off topic, but I think its a leading indicator for buying ops out of our funds) I think we'll see a retracement below the 10day MA and parabolic SAR (as indicated by the futures)... once that support gives way, it usually drops a lot quicker... it may find temporary support around the 20 day MA (~1320). I dont think it will fall below the 50 day MA which is also around the lower short term trend line. The conspiracy theorist in me thinks that the power that be want benign reports and conditions (cheaper oil, strong economy, and paused rates) to support a bullish trend through the elections. So, no major pullback passed ~1298'ish.

 

[fabijo]

I fund is down roughly -0.5% to -0.6% right now.

Using Bloomberg.com's symbol EFAIV

 

[James48843]

I'm going to be sliding a lot more out today - I went 50% out of stocks and into "F" a couple days ago, but this looks to ME like I should lighten up a lot more.

When it gets closer to noon today I'll decide if I want to leave anything in "I" fund at all, or whether I'll pull everything out of stocks and onto the sidelines with a "G" and "F" split.

It's been a very nice run up. Perhaps time to rest for a bit.

 

[Robo5555]

I can't get EFAIV at Bloomberg.com..

 

[fabijo]

I can't get EFAIV at Bloomberg.com..

On the dropdown, next to the symbol, choose IND instead of US.

 

[fabijo]

Now, it's at -0.353%

 

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[airlift]

Thank you for the Charts FundSurfer! --

I am sure you and all members here are seeing the surprising improvement in the US indices this afternoon. I suppose this could be a good follow-up sign for the I fund to follow suit tomorrow! Anybody know how FV would be handled in this case? --

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[Birchtree]

Sponsor,

No not all members are surprised by today - some of us have been rather anticipatory as to when it would happen. The only question is how fast and how far - the bull doesn't want you to get on his back - so watch out for the bull trap.

 

[airlift]

Birchtree --

You are more than correct. This could be a "dead cat bounce", and then the fall! Helping out, though, are funds being transferred from commodities and oil to US stocks (according to a Bloomberg TV trader -- I think his name is Jack Belushian or so). Of course a correction can occur in an overbought and complacent market. I hope, however, that the last couple of days have served to take the edge oo an overbought level, and that easing oil prices serves as support for a time (even if only for a few days). Even in a positive market, we have to be careful of October and any other surprises!. We all welcome any other ideas. --

Sponsor,

No not all members are surprised by today - some of us have been rather anticipatory as to when it would happen. The only question is how fast and how far - the bull doesn't want you to get on his back - so watch out for the bull trap.

 

[ATCJeff]

I'm out of ideas. Did not see this happening today. Congrats to all that are still invested. My lilly pad needs remodeling.

Jeff

 

[sugarandspice]

EAFE says red .35%....= -.07cents