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pyriel wrote:
What are we seeing here for the next several months? I've been analyzing some of the economic indicators and came up with these conclusions. If anyone sees something different, I'd like to see your opinion.

Looks like real estate will continue to go up.
Are yo sure Pyriel? Credit card payments rising, oil rising, interest rates rising, CPI rising, PPI rising, global temperatures rising, bad moon rising, Iraqi uprising..........suppin's gotta fall don't ya think? :shock:

THis from Marty Chenard. I started reading the bill the other night but fell asleep so I don't know that all this true or not.The guy does seem toknow his stuff though.

M_M



2005 ... The year of the Black Christmas?

Millions of Americans are going to have a huge surprise before Christmas ... a big enough surprise to have them make a huge cut back in Christmas spending.

The event will surprise you ... it is the Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005.

If your first thought is that it will not apply to you, and only to those who are involved in bankruptcy
conditions ... think again.


The new law has hidden provisions that will effect every American with a credit card who has been making the minimum payment amount in the past. This provision, by law, will have the banks change the minimum current payment of 2% of the balance to 4% ... changing the pay off period from 20 years to 10 years.

When consumers get their 100% increase required minimum payment in November’s statement,
available discretionary income will be sucked out of retail purchases and into the banks.

This new change in minimum required payments will drain a minimum of 13 Billion Dollars of Christmas shopping purchases. The real number is likely to be at least double that amount ... 26 Billion dollars.
The effect on retail store profits, the stock market and the economy will be a very negative event.


Information about Americans with Credit Cards ...

Currently, 92% of Americans carry 5 to 6 credit cards in their wallets, and 55% have 7 to 8 cards in their wallet.

About 20% of credit card users are “maxed out” and cannot charge more. These consumers, with no money will be forced to make double payments. This has to be some new form of banking insanity, as this will certainly force many of these consumers into bankruptcy ... but only after October 17th. when the new bankruptcy law doesn’t allow them to erase the charge card debt ... and requires them to pay it off during their lifetime. This will have a long term negative effect on the economy.

For banks, it requires them to keep the amounts due on the books because technically it has to be paid, as guaranteed to the banks by the new law. This will create fictitious balance sheets for banks that make assets look wonderful when the likelihood of them actually receiving the payments are small.

Currently, the average credit card debt per person is estimated at $8,652. A minimum 2% payment used to be $432.60 ... the new minimum payment will be $865.20. This happens just in time to create a Black Christmas for retailers.

I spoke to one subscriber who told me, its okay for everyone in my State of Massachusetts because all our homes are protected under the Homestead Act for $500,000 of assets.

Wrong again ... Last April 21st. The new law quietly changed that.
Homestead exemptions are now capped at $125,000, regardless of what the law of your state is, unless you've resided in that state for at least 40 months.

What about someone’s car if they might be filing for Bankruptcy after October 17th.?
The new Chapter 13 law requires one to pay the full loan amount ... not the current value of the car if you want to keep the car. This will apply to loans less than two and a half years old as of the date of filing. Similar new rules apply to any other property classified purchases within the last year prior to filing.

Some folks I have talked to said, "that anyone filing bankruptcy is a bum and deserves everything they get!".


But, here are the facts ...

Most filing bankruptcy are not trying to cheat the system. The average person filing earns a little over $22,000 per year and the majority had a long period of unemployment before filing for bankruptcy. Consumer's Union reported that 85% of the elderly had medical or employment reasons for the bankruptcy. Single, divorced mothers with children struggling to survive make up a large percentage of bankruptcies.
 
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When this bill was first discussed here, I sent warnings to my kids, etc.

Now I am suggesting that if they do have credit card excesses, that maybe the thing to do is get them all consolidated so there is only one 4% to pay. In fact, if you are able to get them consolidated, would that not mean you were paying the `loaner', not the CC people, so there would not be a 4%. Course, I realize that means shredding the cards so no more debt acculates, but I am talking here just on the current excesses & 4%'s that will be pulled.

My question is - would seeking consolidation make sense, or would it increase the interest ?
 
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Market is holding up pretty good
moving a little bit back in 70f10c10s10i

But we will see earning for some companies hit pretty hard later.., But
alot will see more business because of the storms... Bonds should do well...

jmho
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limited amount of internet since i'min columbus ga. on the road......son graduating from OCS:)

think us markets may dip and digest the cost of what happened.....dollar's have weak knees.

moving more into I for these reasons.

good luck 2 all!

tekno
 
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grandma wrote:
When this bill was first discussed here, I sent warnings to my kids, etc.

Now I am suggesting that if they do have credit card excesses, that maybe the thing to do is get them all consolidated so there is only one 4% to pay. In fact, if you are able to get them consolidated, would that not mean you were paying the `loaner', not the CC people, so there would not be a 4%. Course, I realize that means shredding the cards so no more debt acculates, but I am talking here just on the current excesses & 4%'s that will be pulled.

My question is - would seeking consolidation make sense, or would it increase the interest ?
All depends on what interest rate their CC's are charging and how much of a rate they can get on their personal or equity loan. An equity loan probably affords the least interest rate at this point and you can get a longer time to pay it off as compared to a personal loan.

All I use now is my Check Card. Works just like a VISA credit card except the money comes straight out of my checking account. I wonder if I can get one on a money market account?

I do plan on getting another credit card that either pays you back or offers some type of rewards program and charge stuff like gas and groceries and pay off the balance each month. Sort of like getting free money. Just haven't gotten around to it yet. :*

M_M
 
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LONDON (Reuters) - Oil eased from record highs above $70 on Wednesday after the United States offered to loan crude to replace output lost when Hurricane Katrina ripped through the Gulf of Mexico.

But Washington's gesture fails to address the country's petrol shortage. And energy experts, warning of a supply shock on the scale of the 1970s, said a two-year bull run that took oil to $70.85 on Tuesday may not have run its course.

It's a good thing that will help in the short run.
 
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mlk_man wrote:
I do plan on getting another credit card that either pays you back or offers some type of rewards program and charge stuff like gas and groceries and pay off the balance each month. Sort of like getting free money. Just haven't gotten around to it yet. :*
M_M
BTW, if you're looking for a credit card you can try http://www.cardweb.com/
Friend of mine is the CEO. Rich son of a gun...
Spaf had a postseveral weeks ago about Capital One - MM Savings pays 3.5%; has CashCard, also. Check it out. The American Nurse Assoc has an MM like this, too - :^

Is friend, Bob, a rich son-of-a-gun because his card Does Not give paybacks??:l

When I Do use my CC, that is subtracted from the estimated next paycheck so it gets paid in full each month. ....some years ago I had to keep it in a ziplock baggie in another ziplock filled w/water in the freezer; I had to thaw it before I could use it at at store, which meant I had to go home to get it, giving time tothink about whether it was Really Needed!
 
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grandma wrote:
Spaf had a postseveral weeks ago about Capital One - MM Savings pays 3.5%; has CashCard, also. Check it out. The American Nurse Assoc has an MM like this, too - :^

Is friend, Bob, a rich son-of-a-gun because his card Does Not give paybacks??:l

When I Do use my CC, that is subtracted from the estimated next paycheck so it gets paid in full each month. ....some years ago I had to keep it in a ziplock baggie in another ziplock filled w/water in the freezer; I had to thaw it before I could use it at at store, which meant I had to go home to get it, giving time tothink about whether it was Really Needed!
Thanks for the info!

He's rich because he got his head out his "you know what" sooner than I did. :h

Good idea on freezing the CC, you grandma's are just a cookie jar full of good ideas. :^

M_M
 
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Pyriel said: Btw, if you can see that little green dot on the left side of Nabi, that is where I live. I'm actually waving at you all.;-)

And we are waving back!
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You say you had a `near miss.' but the whirls look like you took alot of side winds -

You mentioned cement structuresa day or two ago - PBS had a special on inventions the other day, included Edison;apparentlyone of the inventions he had created didn't work right, so he used the sametheory & developeda stone crusher, and - cement. He publizicedmany differnt uses for this stuff, including cement houses.He did not build any, but later a fellow named Ingersole did. The PBS program showed a group of 5-6 houses, still being lived in. One fellow said `we can't add on w/o blasting a hole in the wall' so, even though it was almost too small for him & his family, he preferred living in a place of historical interest. I forget the location.

Take care !
 
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teknobucks wrote:
limited amount of internet since i'min columbus ga. on the road......son graduating from OCS:)
think us markets may dip and digest the cost of what happened.....dollar's have weak knees.
moving more into I for these reasons.
Tek! Congratulaltions! What a nice Birthday Present! How proud your family must be!! I hope yesterday was another great day for you.

I wonder about those tsp'ers caught inKatrina's horrible situation - hopefully their funds are at least safe, if not where they would move them if they had access to phones or electricity.

Tek, have you or your WeatherWright frineds heard anything from/about that fellow `Storm_ _ _ ??' who was riding Katrina out in a cement bulding? If I recall he said he was about 40 feet above the ground?
 
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Big news about gas!!! EPA just removed gas standards untill Sept 15 2005. It means some of the special blends could be gone for now.... Also lessrefining time! Removed the limit on the hours truckers can drive until this tragedy is over. Now they can drive longer to get aid to those who need help... Lots of other good news that help is on the way for the people of this terrible tragedy... Lets hope they can execute....

All resources have now opened up, because homeland security is now in charge of assisting the states with help...

Military is going to play a big roll..... God bless all that will be involved.....


This is just a small light at the end of a long, long dark tunnel...The worst is yet to come.......
 
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Maybe the people who were evacuated from N.O. and the gulf coast should be sent to shuttered army/navy/air force bases and use the barricks there for temporary housing.

Looks like they won't be going home for a while.
 
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Here's the truth.

EPA grants emergency fuel waiver for Florida, Louisiana, Alabama and Mississippi
Aug 30 - EPA Administrator Steven L. Johnson has determined that the impact of Hurricane Katrina created an “extreme and unusual fuel supply circumstance” in Alabama, Florida, Louisiana and Mississippi. The situation will prevent the distribution of an adequate supply of fuel to consumers that is compliant with the Clean Air Act. This is “a natural disaster, that could not reasonably have been foreseen or prevented and not attributable to a lack of prudent planning on the part of the suppliers of the fuel to these affected States,” according to a fuel waiver granted to the states by the EPA today.

Under the Clean Air Act, EPA will temporarily allow all parties in the fuel distribution system, including refiners, importers, distributors, carriers and retail outlets (regulated parties) to supply gasoline meeting a Reid Vapor Pressure (RVP) standard of 9.0 psi in areas of the affected states where a lower RVP is required.

Further, because of the expected shortage of motor vehicle diesel fuel meeting the 500 parts per million (ppm) sulfur standard, EPA will temporarily allow regulated parties to supply motor vehicle diesel fuel to affected states having a sulfur content greater than 500 ppm.

This waiver is effective immediately and will continue through the remainder of the high-ozone period, through Sept. 15, 2005. However, retail outlets or wholesale purchaser-consumers that receive motor vehicle diesel fuel having a sulfur content greater than 500 ppm, under the terms of this waiver may continue selling or dispensing this fuel after Sept. 15, 2005, until their supplies are depleted.
 
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Sugarandspice wrote:
Here's the truth.
Thanks for the facts. This should help the working people, like the truckers, trying todeliver aid. Hopefully itwill help supply, and the price some.
 
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