Market Talk / June 11 - 17

Fed fund futures see odds of second rate hike increasing

By Tomi Kilgore
Last Update: 9:43 AM ET Jun 15, 2006



NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- The odds that the Federal Reserve will raise rates more than once increased, according to the fed funds futures market, after the New York Fed reported stronger-than-expected regional manufacturing data. The July fed funds futures contract continued to imply a 100% chance that the Fed will raise its target on overnight rates to 5.25% in June from its current target of 5%, but now prices in a 75% chance they will raise rates again after their Aug. 8 meeting. The odds were just above 65% in late trading on Wednesday. The New York Fed's Empire State Manufacturing index rose to 29.0 in June from a revised 12.9 in May. Economists were expecting the index to inch higher to 12.5 from the initial estimate of 12.4. Also lifting rate hike expectations, the prices paid component rose to 52.9 from 43.1.
 
Some Market comments:


Ok, Ok, I know, Darn Big rally going on, but lets not get to worked up here. I'm getting alerts as I write this to add shorts. Also no alerts to go to cash from shorts. The Bears are wounded here, but not Dead!!


Don't feel like you missed the rally and we are headed straight up the rest of the year!!

I know, I know, but this is the Big One!!!! Maybe, Maybe not! We knew we were getting like a Big Coiled Spring and a Big Rally was coming. Remember, it's option expiration week and we were for-told of this.

If you were in cash that still is a very good postion, for this high risk market.

Making a cool 5% return is always a good thing for your cash. Plenty of days left to make money this year.

Remember, just yesterday you were worried about this thing going to 1150.

AND IT COULD HAVE!!! So your safe postion was OK!!!!

Tom, how about a poll was 1222 the bottom for the year?

We went from Big Bad Ben to Gentle Ben. I still don't trust him...

Caution here!!!!! The bears are covering and are still out there. They are sharping up their claws for the next round.

Yes, we went above a critical resistance level at 1250, but can we hold!!!

I wish I knew all of these things, but we could be going from oversold to maybe a overbought condition in two days.

So I'll say it again. Caution here!!!

Good Trading/Investing!!! Two days does not make a Trend!!

Now after pointing out all off that...

For those that followed Tom this time. NICE CALL ON THIS RALLY TOM!!!!

STILL 75% LONG, FOR NOW. Is it time to reduce or add stock? Lets see what Tom does, I think he might be on a ROLL!!


This thing is not over!!!!!
 
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robo said:
Tom, how about a poll was 1222 the bottom for the year?

That's about what this week's poll was on the home page (www.tsptalk.com). Of course I put that up Monday and those numbers will likely change after the last 2 days.

The new bull/bear poll goes up later tonight to take its place.
 
Tom,

Ok! Thanks.


Comments about Tomorrow:

This could have been a record for options squeeze for SPX. Options expire tomorrow. The Bears are hurting today. Will the Bulls give them more pain tomorrow!!!


Will the Bears cover and go long or go to cash? Maybe short the rally?

I'm waiting for emails to see if any change in postions for the remaining Bear postions.

We could see a big sell-off tomorrow in the morning. Maybe we can get a late day rally.

Hmmm... It can all give you a head ache when you trade short-term. That is why I try not to do it. I have know idea what Mr. Market will do tomorrow.

Birchtree,

What's your take on this Global Rally. It was impressive!!!
 
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The Kingdom of TSP
Daily Edition
June 15, 2006 Closing

Yak, Doodles, Tea Leaves & The Tin Box

Kingdom Yak:
Pro-Yak...................................Socks-a-rising! Lube under 70.
Con-Yak..................................Shuuuu.

Doodles:
Socks [$SPX] Closed at..............1256.16, up +26.12
Volume (CMF) (money flow).........+0.058, increasing.
Averages (MACD) (trend)............-13.368, increasing.
Momentum (S-STO) (signal).........22.81, increasing.
Strength (RSI) Overbought/sold....[70] 45.87 [30]

Lube (NYM) Closed at..................69.93, up +0.31
Oil Markers................................<70= ok, 70-75= worry, >75= panic.

Tea Leaves:
Charts & Stuff............................Green / Green [doodles +, Lube < 70]

Tin Box:
Position.....................................100% socks
Stops [$SPX]..............................Alert: 1243. Trail: 1230.
 
The TA's I follow that were holding short postions are holding. The longs are holding, and cash postions are staying put. As Griffin pointed out in the Bull Pen, about half are incorrect. However, we need both buyers and sellers to make the market work. Tomorrow should be a wild one! The shorts will not give up easy... Now will the Bulls take some profits or squeeze some more..
 
As the site says This is a way to get a quick picture of market volatility and general trends. What allocation was used, don't know. Remember it's back-looking, a far different from front-looking........;) .............Spaf


Single_Tasker said:
Hi, Hope this is the right forum.
On this Webpage: http://www.tspmoney.com/tools/gain_loss_tool.php
is shown the max gain/loss for certain time periods. Does this mean our own accounts would see these gains and losses... and under what circumstances... ie 20% in all 5 funds, luckily making the exactly correct percentage changes on funds on a daily basis, etc. ???
Thanks,
Bill
 
TSP must be rather busy tonight counting our loot... still waiting for prices to officially post.:D
 
FUTURESTRADER said:
good news is EFA and DWCPF are still oversold and have a few days of momentum in them

Let's hope you're correct!:cool:

I'm still thinking of bailing for Monday, though.
 
Thursday, June 15, 2006

Market Produces a 300-point Bear Market Rally
The market has put together two big point-gainers in a row after the bear market had smacked it hard. Undoubtedly, this is short-covering buying and should burn itself out very quickly. Coincidentally (not!), it occured in the two days leading up to options expiration and just happened to send the QQQQ index options sailing right into their landing slots at Maximum Pain (39). And, the OEX index options also were right above their landing slot at Maximum Pain (570) as well. Almost every month the market makers in options are able to land their vehicles right on the price point which produces maximum pain (i.e., maximum losses) for buyers of both puts and calls. This month proved to be one of those months, despite one of the largest selloffs going into expiration week that we've seen in a long time.

While it would be nice to say that the big rally was caused by buyers jumping into stocks at bargain prices, the reality is that the bear market/correction has a lot longer to run than this. Anyone buying for the long haul is going to have to simply recognize that the gains are going to be given back in the next few months. Of course, that may be their strategy -- to buy the dips. That's a fine strategy if you're investing periodically for the very long haul. But, very few investors actually do invest for the long haul, unfortunately, and it won't be long before they are going to see losses and will be sellers again.

TrimTabs reported late Thursday that investors had pulled $6.4 Billion from stock funds in the last week. That comes on the heels of a net outflow of $1.87 Billion the week before. Clearly, the public is not a "buy the dips" crowd! They were even selling bond funds, for that matter. Apparently, they were intent on preserving wealth the old-fashioned way.

Terry Laundry, who developed the technical analysis technique known as T-Theory and built a large investment fortune using it, updated his blog on Thursday. He makes some interesting points, such as the fact that the Interest Rate T's, which tend to terminate at stock market bottoms, have been pressuring the stock market. The volume oscillators have been trying valiantly to indicate new uptrends in stock prices starting in recent weeks, only to see those nascent trends get hammered by the bear market. As soon as those Rate T's bottom, stocks are going to have a much easier time developing uptrends. He's estimating the first Rate-T will terminate in early August. The stock market could get a lift from that pressure easing, but the second Rate-T is scheduled to terminate in early November and may keep the stock market under the same kind of pressure we've been seeing lately. This forecast would allow for a brief Summer Rally (a Winter Rally in the Southern Hemisphere, presumably), but gains in that rally would likely be given back in the fourth quarter of the year.

We have a slightly different take on the termination of the first Interest Rate T, in fact, and have the stock market bottoming much earlier than August. Thus, we think that Summer Rally could get started quite a bit earlier than Terry does.

As we have said several times before, the picture is setting up to be a cousin to the market of 1994, which saw a sharp correction into a mid-year low, a rally that just retests the old highs, then a plunge into the last few months of the year. That last plunge landed a bottom that launched the largest bull market of the Twentieth Century from 1995-2000. Remember, the longer the base, the larger the rally that follows on its heels. Given a base that appears to be the entirety of the rest of 2006, investors are going to have to either take a very long term perspective, or trade this market. While some bulls were shocked by the ferocity of the recent decline, the bears must be absolutely shell-shocked by the ferocity of this latest bear market rally. Normally, the market will plunge faster than it rallies. In the present market, the rallies have been mirror images of the plunges. Never fear, though, the bears will have their turn again very shortly.

Note that if this were a bull market rally, it would have moved up gradually, backing and filling and not developing any short term excesses that could send the market down in a big hurry on profit-taking. It would not shoot out of a cannon like this one has. Over 300 points gained in 1½ trading days is definitely not a bull market rally -- it's a short-covering exercise for the bears as they are forced to take profits by becoming buyers of stocks. And, what goes up in a big hurry will often come down again in a big hurry as short term traders lock in profits by selling and the bears get even by selling the market at higher prices.

http://marketclues.blogspot.com/
 
robo said:
Market Produces a 300-point Bear Market Rally

Robo, Do you still subscribe to sentimentrader.com? Did you see the smart/dumb money confidence level indicator? 67% smart - 21% dumb. :nuts:

Ref:
Smart money > 40% = buy signal
Dumb money < 40% = buy signal
 
tsptalk said:
Robo, Do you still subscribe to sentimentrader.com? Did you see the smart/dumb money confidence level indicator? 67% smart - 21% dumb. :nuts:

Ref:
Smart money > 40% = buy signal
Dumb money < 40% = buy signal

Interesting... might as well stay in at this point unless we get a huge leg down.

Making "hay"...:D
 
Missing It

Technical Analysis is passe because it is blind to Sentiment, which moves the market these days. What he says makes sense but not 300 pts worth. D
 
Typical market correction!

I think Giff was right!
We need the Bull Pen Thread!

But,
But,

What about a Bear Cave Thread?

Equal Opportunity....:nuts: ......Spaf
 
Spaf said:
What about a Bear Cave Thread?

It would never be active since that is where some hibernate... like they are currently doing. ;)

But they sure were out in force Wednesday speaking "doom" for Thursday, huh???:p

But doom turned into boom! :D
 
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