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350,
I accept what you are telling us, but then why does TSP Talk post the charts at the bottom of the page for us to look at? I have seen you post several times for us not to follow EFA but those mis leading charts at the bottom of the screen tell us different.
I know this is not your doing, so... Tom- what gives?:confused:

350zCommTech said:
You guys missed my F fund calculator that I posted 6 or 7 months ago?:)

Just like the EFA, the AGG should not be used on a daily basis for the F fund.

350Z's F fund calculator:

TNX = 10 yr yield
TYX = 30 yr yield

Use the change in yields

(TNX+TYX)*.25 = F fund change in %

(.001+.019)*.25 = -.05%
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Barney said:
350,
I accept what you are telling us, but then why does TSP Talk post the charts at the bottom of the page for us to look at? I have seen you post several times for us not to follow EFA but those mis leading charts at the bottom of the screen tell us different.
I know this is not your doing, so... Tom- what gives?:confused:
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It is like the I Fund and the EFA. Not a perfect match for tracking, but the best we have in one ticker symbol.
 
Barney said:
350,
I accept what you are telling us, but then why does TSP Talk post the charts at the bottom of the page for us to look at? I have seen you post several times for us not to follow EFA but those mis leading charts at the bottom of the screen tell us different.
I know this is not your doing, so... Tom- what gives?:confused:
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If you find a better chart I'll use it. The bond yield charts are good but are also inverse reflections of the bond fund and would be confusing in my opinion.
 
Show-me said:
It is like the I Fund and the EFA. Not a perfect match for tracking, but the best we have in one ticker symbol.
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tsptalk said:
If you find a better chart I'll use it. The bond yield charts are good but are also inverse reflections of the bond fund and would be confusing in my opinion.
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Thanks. I am not trying to re invent the wheel. If that is the closest there is, then that is what we use. It was/is just frustrating when you think you made a profit based on the chart, only to find out that it was wrong.

But Tom, thanks for the confidence boost. If I do run across a better following chart, I will give you a yell.:o
 
Rod said:
Using 350Z's formula it shows the .02 gain.
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Rod, what you tell where you got TNX and TYX and your calculation?

Yahoo shows:
^TNX Down 0.0490 (1.28%)
^TYX Down 0.0340 (0.78%)

Today's $0.02 gain is 0.16%
 
Rod said:
Using 350Z's formula it shows the .02 gain.

GOT IT NOW 350Z!

Thanx!:cool:
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You're welcome. Much better than looking at a -AGG all day, right?:D

The F fund was actually up as much as 3 cents at one point in the afternoon. It might have stayed that way if it had not been for a USM rally that started after 2:00pm est. The cut-off time for the F fund is 3:00pm est on most days.;)
 
nnuut said:
You have to look at the 10 Year and 30 Year bonds, not the AGG it's just about always wrong. Find the return for both and add them together and divide by 2 it's usually pretty close. It's $.09 (I think?) per penny so divide by $.09 and round off.:D
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$tnx
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=^TYX
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Oh, a loss in the 10 and 30 year is a gain for the AGG the "F" Fund. I love it!!!!:cool:
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Just read this thing again and 350Z is right.
should devide by 4 or multiply by .25, duh! It works for just one fund, like the 10 year just devide by 2 or multiply by .50!:D
 
Today's F fund:

If they use the normal cutoff time of 3:00 est, we have a gain of 4 cents.

If they use the 4:00pm est, cutoff time, we have a gain of 6 cents.
 
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