Tsunami's Account Talk

So, it's not smart to follow gurus...
https://pensionpartners.com/following-gurus-is-not-a-strategy/
...but some gurus are pretty darn smart, and Northy continues to point out worrying signs...
https://northmantrader.com/2016/09/12/time-to-get-real-part-iii/

Meanwhile, the brilliant economists at the Fed have "discovered" something "new" that other economists like Harry Dent have been writing about for decades. Demograhpics are an anchor on the economy. This is hilarious that they make it sound like a new revelation. I've been talking about it for five years or so in my thread here....
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...imple-explanation-for-americas-economic-mess/

The red cycle is past it's peak, and now the two cycles are aligned and pointing down to mid-November...
Orderly Bull - Jaroslaw Jac - Public ChartList - StockCharts.com

Lastly, it's only the 2nd quarter, but WSU 14...Stanford 3... Go Cougs!
 
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China's real estate bubble just needs a pin. Wow, a 65 ft2 apartment for $132K?
Housing is so scarce in China's Silicon Valley that even illegal "pigeon cage" apartments are going fast

If this correlation holds, it could suggest more weakness in the short-term, but a really nice gain for 2017 followed by a major peak in the spring of 2018:
DJIA, And the Echo of 2007-08 Oil Blowoff - Free Weekly Technical Analysis Chart - McClellan Financial

This chart for the average returns in the 8th year of Presidential cycles hasn't worked out in 2016. If it does in the short-term however, it also supports further downside to about November 20th, then that oil-echo bubble can get going...
Presidential cycle stock market performance - Business Insider

I'm looking for a panic in the next few weeks that sets the centerpost of a new T. The NYMO dropping below -100 would project a huge rally lasting 3 or 4 months (the same distance as the left side of the T, which can be calculated once we get a centerpost low)...
$NYUD - SharpCharts Workbench - StockCharts.com

Cougs still undefeated in conference play and tied with the Huskies!...Seahawks beating Atlanta...nice!
 
Still waiting for the wave 2 bottom. Perhaps it has to wait all the way to the election, or at least until the polls clearly show that the status quo will be maintained and the coast is clear to buy buy buy. No worries, once the ship rights itself there's a powerful T that will carry the market higher all the way to next May (sell in May and go away, once again)...

First chart: Jeffrey Young's Public Chart List - Jeffrey Young - Public ChartList - StockCharts.com

A drop below 2075 would change the picture for me, but until then I'm bullish.

And more importantly, wow, Cougs come roaring back from a 21-0 deficit and beat the Beavs! 5-0, and still on an Apple Cup collision course with the Huskies. Now I need the Seahawk to give me another weekend sweep.
 
Some updates on my personal trading system....

First, with today's drop in the unemployment rate back down to 4.9%, my bear market indicator is turned back off since the 4.9% rate is now back below the 12-month moving average (currently at 4.93%). So a further drop in the S&P price no longer matters, and it's full-steam ahead for my system and I think that once the lemmings are done selling over the next week or so the markets will do well into year-end barring a significant deterioration in fundamentals.

I've also now reached a milestone in my ongoing project to figure out whether or not to roll over to an IRA when I retire. The results came out as I expected (the TSP's ultra-low fees can't be beat and make a difference over time). My first look was a simulated TD Ameritrade account where I'd use ETF's that mimic the TSP funds, using ETFs from TD Ameritrade's commission-free list as much as possible (I plan to also evaluate the same system using Vanguard and Charles Schwab IRAs). The funds I used were AGG, IVV, VXF, and EFA until 2007 when Vanguard's VEA came into existence, then VEA since then. It was very tedious, taking me months of work in my free time, making sure I included subtracting trading fees when the ETFs are held less than 30 days per TD Amertrade's rules, including SEC fees on all trades (they become significant as the account grows), and making sure every dividend was properly added. My daily data goes back to 12/31/03, and monthly data back to January 1984, so in just two more months I will have a full 30 years of data to work with.

Below is a summary of the results. The answer to the big question is that, in my opinion, it's a big mistake for anyone to roll over there TSP to an IRA upon retirement unless you absolutely can't live with the TSP's restrictive withdrawal options, or, if you are really brave and can sleep at night by shorting the stock market during bear markets. My "bull/bear" system has been great at timing the last two bear markets (will it work for the next one?, I have no idea), and the ridiculous results below for the bull/bear system using ETFs incorporates shorting the market in late 2007 through most of 2008 using the inverse S&P 500 ETF "SH". The results are astounding, but even so I don't plan to abandon the TSP when I retire. I think staying in the TSP is so much simpler, especially if I'm hit by the Creamland ice cream truck and my wife as to take over trading the TSP account...it will be a simple thing for her since with my system I'll have all the future IFTs worked out for the next 40 years or so, just a dozen or so IFT's per year, and one should be able to reap double-digit returns on average if history repeats (granted, that's a big if, but with 13 years and counting I'm convinced it works and I can easily achieve my personal goal of 8%/year during retirement).

The following compound annual returns are for the period 1/1/2004 through 12/31/2015:
Buy and hold the C fund: 7.44% ---- Buy and hold an equivalent ETF (IVV): 7.40% (I'll look at VOO next, but expect similar results)
Buy and hold the S fund: 9.03% ---- Buy and hold an equivalent ETF (VXF): 8.74%
Basic seasonal strategy using G/F/C/S/I: 14.93% ---- Equivalent strategy using ETFs (no G fund ETF exists though, so only AGG): 14.29%
Enhanced seasonal strategy: 21.82% (and has beaten the S&P 500 13 straight years) ---- Equivalent strategy using ETFs: 20.82%
Bull/Bear seasonal strategy: 22.43% ---- Equivalent strategy using ETFs, including SH during the last bear market: 27.88% (wow :eek:)

Lastly, the year-to-date returns for 2016 through October 31st....
TSP Basic: +16.22% ---- ETF Basic: +17.81%
TSP Enhanced (and Bull/Bear): 13.61% ---- ETF Enhanced (and Bull/Bear): +15.08%

My challenge has been to follow my own system, but I finally have been doing that (almost, my IFTs have varied from what the system said to do by one day for each move, and it's cost me each and every time, argh) since July...and my actual return for 2016 is 3% better than what the auto tracker shows, which is still awful, but has done fine since July. As Cubs fans said for 108 years, wait until next year! I'll finally be following my system in the tracker as long as I remember to enter the IFTs.

Market is turning green...so many indicators are at very oversold levels...nice divergences abound...I don't pay much attention to such things any more but I sure wouldn't be a seller here. Getting beyond the election should eliminate the last roadblock.

On a personal note, I landed a new job yesterday that I've had my eye on for over a decade, nabbing the job of someone retiring...so I'll likely be hanging on until 2019 to boost my high-3 and pad the TSP and other savings.
 
Wow Tsunami. Your system sounds awesome. Best wishes to you. Please do let us know your results in looking at other funds for retirement. It would be very appreciated. I can retire next year but will likely work another five.

So you would stay in now and so it seems you are exoecting an upturn soon. That is good to know! I wa thinking to buy back in sometime next week.
 
Hey tsunami
I decided to put it into the hands of my financial adviser just about a month ago since I had done all I knew to do. I posted in the retirement thread and also on my Guchi account the details and my reason for doing so. I wish you the best with your system, I on the other hand was not as suave as you so decided to leave it to someone who is. Time will tell for me on my decision.
 
Tsunami,
Wouldn't a major factor of TSP vs. IRA be the two IFTs per month restriction in the TSP? How can you follow your system to buy or sell if you've already used up your two IFTs? BTW all your various systems beat me by a mile.

Some updates on my personal trading system....

I've also now reached a milestone in my ongoing project to figure out whether or not to roll over to an IRA when I retire. The results came out as I expected (the TSP's ultra-low fees can't be beat and make a difference over time). My first look was a simulated TD Ameritrade account where I'd use ETF's that mimic the TSP funds, using ETFs from TD Ameritrade's commission-free list as much as possible (I plan to also evaluate the same system using Vanguard and Charles Schwab IRAs). .
 
Tsunami,
Wouldn't a major factor of TSP vs. IRA be the two IFTs per month restriction in the TSP? How can you follow your system to buy or sell if you've already used up your two IFTs? BTW all your various systems beat me by a mile.

with my system I'll have all the future IFTs worked out for the next 40 years or so, just a dozen or so IFT's per year, and one should be able to reap double-digit returns on average if history repeats

Doesn't look like the 2 IFT limit will be an issue with this system.


I think staying in the TSP is so much simpler, especially if I'm hit by the Creamland ice cream truck

You don't know a Craig Claffy, do you? I just ask because his father was hit by a Creamland dairy delivery truck while he was riding his bicycle in Albuquerque early one morning. :( That's got be 30 years ago now.
 
DBA – Thanks, and yes I think the market will turn up at some point next week. I sure hope so anyway, and there’s so much fear now it could really scream higher: Fear & Greed Index - Investor Sentiment - CNNMoney

Guchi – I saw your earlier posts and there’s nothing wrong with going that route. According to this study Old Age and the Decline in Financial Literacy by Michael S. Finke, John S. Howe, Sandra J. Huston :: SSRN , investment “literacy” declines about 1.65% per year after age 60, but financial confidence does not decline. My dad turned over his accounts to Fidelity at about age 80 and is happy with the results. Overconfidence in investing is not a good thing, but I’m such a die-hard do-it-yourselfer that I was determined to come up with a simple system that I could deploy myself and maintain well into my golden years. The jury is still out, but I think I’ve succeeded. For the rest of the masses though, buy and hold or turning accounts over to professionals should do well enough. I just prefer to have only myself to blame if things go south.

Skorcher – I’ve designed my system to work around the TSP rules. There were only two cases in the last 12 years when my system required a 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] trade at the end of the month (in the summer-time, when my system gets weird and starts going going back and for from stocks to bonds every two weeks), so in this case I would just wait until the first of the following month to make the move. At the very most my system makes 14 moves per year, usually 12. So as Cactus said the 2 IFT limit is not an issue. Using ETFs completely gets around this monthly IFT limit issue (but adds a new dilemma since you can make the moves at any time during trading hours, so you have to fret over exactly when to make the move as the market gyrates), but it doesn’t change the rules for my system...at least not yet, I might consider new tweaks to the EFT system...but for now it's enough work just to evaluate using different funds with different brokers, trying to determine the broker I'd want to use (I suspect Vanguard will be the winner and will look at them next). Another one of my motivations for creating my strategies was to avoid the annoying noon eastern time IFT deadline, with my system this is no longer a concern, I simply enter the IFT on the scheduled date the evening before or the morning of the day the strategy calls for a move. Easy, no more worries about news, technicals, Elliott wave patterns (though I admit to tweaking my IFTs by one day the last few times due to the wave patterns, and each time this has cost me a small amount of money since my guess was wrong, so I really just need to stick with the system and stop trying to outguess it...an occasional kick in the butt from my wife helps with that too LOL)...so I no longer stress about about gurus calling for crashes, etc. To me that’s all just entertainment now and I’ll be able to focus on other things from now on, and during retirement.

Cactus – Oh my, hadn’t heard that story. I see the Creamland trucks driving around ABQ daily and just figured that would be a fitting way to go since I love ice cream so much…though at my age I’m having to lay off of it pretty much completely in the battle of the bulge.
 
Hi TS. Congrats on the new job! Well done!

First time I've posted in over 2 weeks. Finally gor the new hard drive and new OS installed on the computer after living through malware hell.

Looking forward to that upper thrust in the markets after the election. I think Wall Street is running scared so don't expect much until after the votes are cast. Then we'll get the real tell...

All the best.

FS
 
I've reading pretty much nothing but gloom all weekend...the bears are drooling and posting charts predicting a crash. But looking at reality, many indicators are at significant buy levels, like this one...
https://twitter.com/McClellanOsc/status/794626848617480192/photo/1

And if you listen to the Saturday podcasts on financialsense.com, Chris Puplava reported "very bullish" news that corporate earnings have in fact turned the corner and rose in the most recent corner. That's hugely bullish. The futures are way up, if that holds into Monday it's time to burn the shorts and all of those that have panicked into cash. I'll be watching to see if the Zweig Breadth Thrust indicator triggers if we get a huge rally this week....step one has just completed with a drop below 0.4. Now if it rockets above 0.615 within 10 trading days that would give a very rare and very bullish signal:
!BINYBT - SharpCharts Workbench - StockCharts.com

Washington State 69 Arizona 7
One week closer to that Apple Cup showdown with the Huskies
 
Washington State 69 Arizona 7; One week closer to that Apple Cup showdown with the Huskies

:banana: GO COUGS! Nice not to be in "Pucker Mode" til end of Game, whew. Wazzu football in a bullish-pattern after some sideways movement with steady gains & not dropping below support or filling lower gaps, hopefully heading towards end of season peak.

Albuquerque - great place to come into this world & spend my 1st 8-yrs. I patronized the ice-cream trucks some & survived them.

TSP & Stocks/ETFs: I'm not nearly as knowledgeable or savvy as you - wish I had a good system like yours I could trust. TSP - too near retirement to be very bold; so I'm positive but only + a couple % on the year over year.
I've been playing with swing-trading Robinhood with some savings since start of 2016; up-down-up-down, not just above break-even; good experience though. Thanks again for your sharing and posts.
 
Yep, FAAM, I think the Cougs are in a wave 3 up in Elliott wave terms. It's about time!

I recently took the free 15-day trial subscription to Avi Gilbert's elliottwave.net. I didn't subscribe, too expensive and it's geared toward day-traders, but I did confirm that the dude is pretty good at Elliott wave's and I'll continue to follow him through his occasional posts on Marketwatch, like this one today:

Election or not, it

I agree with him. We have liftoff today and I like seeing a lot of folks doubting it, that will add fuel to the fire as they buy in later. Barring an election shocker tomorrow, the first stop is 2180ish, then a wave 2 pull-back, then comes a big and longer shot higher in what will be wave 3 of wave (iii), the biggest part of the move...2350 is still possible as soon as Christmas. Booyaa! Where's Birchtree when you need him?!
 
Wow, transports trading at record highs, and the Dow is just 37 points from a Dow Theory confirmation and also hitting a record high. This could really turn into a slaughter of the bears by tomorrow. My biggest worry is the route in the bond market though. That fast of a rise in rates will be a damper on the economy and the stock rally. The housing market could come to a screeching halt.
 
Time to say something before I drop off page 1...umm....er.....hmm, oh, chart 51 shows a clear triangle over the last few days, it's almost done and I think it will break down in another ~30 point drop after this wave e completes today. That would get the S&P to 2135ish, which would also be ~50% correction of the election rally.
Above the Green Line - Nov 14, 2016 Buy high, and Sell Higher: Momentum Investing - Joanne Klein - Public ChartList - StockCharts.com
There is still no shortage of gurus calling for a collapse, so that tells me we're going up after this next drop which drags in more bears trying to make their fortune.

Also, Cougs clobbered Cal as expected, now in first place and the longest winning streak since 1930 LOL. Go Cougs!...and Hawks! :banana: Nice to see Brady is human after all.
 
Well so much for that prediction (a drop out of the triangle)...it's threatening to break up instead, but if 2171 holds it could still work out that way....and small caps, transports and the Dow are finally taking a much needed light nap today...

I finally reached a major milestone in my TSP yesterday, a figure I'd been oh so close to several times then fell back...and since I've been following my system in late July I've moved from negative returns and near the very bottom of the AutoTracker to steadily passing most of the TSP funds and in the middle of the tracker...passed L2050 yesterday.... Go S fund!
 
Please do let us know your results in looking at other funds for retirement. It would be very appreciated.

DBA - I finished crunching the numbers for Vanguard last weekend. The results were a bit surprising. I'd assumed that Vanguard's lower trading fees and supposedly slightly better performing funds would result in Vanguard being better than TD Ameritrade....Nope, it's a wash....after swapping out AGG for BND, and IVV for VOO, then going through over 3000 rows of data and changing the dividends and trading fees...the end result was almost identical. Apparently the performance for AGG and IVV is slightly better overall during the periods my system uses them, and that makes up for Vanguard's low fees, which are almost zero in fact with my system. So, since I think Vanguard's website and trading platform is so clunky (I've had IRA's and my kids accounts with them in the past and hated their website, it's so 1990s still) I'd probably stick with TD Ameritrade. I'm not sure I'll go to the next step and compare to Charles Schwab next since that will involve almost twice as much work...swapping out all four funds for C.S. funds and making all the dividend/trading fee changes by hand.
 
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