MrJohnRoss' Account Talk

It was a two day seminar. The main thing I learned was how the Govt pension will work. When I compare it to the CA State retirement system, it's not nearly as lucrative. Perhaps that's why the state of CA is in such a mess!

I hear that. CalSTRS (CA teachers' retirement system) continues paying you up to something like 90% of your salary after retirement. With FERS, I'm only going to get 40% or something if I choose the option for my wife to receive benefits after my death. Hence the importance of this TSP.
 
Its never to early or late to learn. I attended the seminar and i have 19 years to go. In the back of the booklet i recieved there are a number of very interesting websites for additional info......very helpful.

Yeah, there were a couple of young chaps in the room. My wife wondered why they were there, but I told her I thought it was good that young people start planning at an early age to really get a jump start on their retirement thinking.
 
The last one I attended, August 2009, was a 3 day program. But it was broken down 1 day for CSRS, 1 day for FERS and the last day was Financial and Tax Planning. We had Tammy Flanagan from GovExec.com talk to us. Very eye opening.

Planning to retire June 2012 if not sooner. ;)

Wow! Retirement is just around the corner, good buddy! That's awesome NASA!

My wife is a FERS employee, so our seminar was mainly focused on that, although he did go over the main differences between CSRS and FERS. Glad I went, so my wife didn't have to come home and try to explain it to me. *chuckling*
 
Well, I'm still 10 years out and expect it to basically be a one legged stool by then. There will be a lot of changes in the next ten years with baby boomers retiring and pulling their money out of the market to live on. Did they tell you anything that was a complete surprize?

I know what you mean, Cactus. But if you're only 10 yrs out, I think you'll be fine. 20 or 30 yrs, not so sure.

The only surprise was when we calculated the Federal pension. It's not very big, and my wife will have to put in another 7 yrs to get her 20 yrs. If you work 20 yrs, you get 10% more pension payout than if you work less than 20 yrs.

Needless to say, my wife was rather deflated by that fact. She was hoping to retire in less than five yrs. Oh well, put your nose to the grindstone, Hun. LOL! ;)
 
I hear that. CalSTRS (CA teachers' retirement system) continues paying you up to something like 90% of your salary after retirement. With FERS, I'm only going to get 40% or something if I choose the option for my wife to receive benefits after my death. Hence the importance of this TSP.

I hear ya, Sensei! We've got some friends who were both CA State employees. Both just high school graduates, no college degrees, both just retired. To say they've done quite well is an understatement.

Their state pensions are un-be-lievable! About 80% of final pay. Plus she has gone back to work for the state as a "consultant" on a part time basis... at about triple her old salary. They literally make more money than they can spend, and that's just on their state pension income. Doesn't take into account SSI, or anything else.

She confided to me the other day that they don't know what to do with their retirement savings accounts, because they simply don't need it! I hope I have that problem when I retire.
 
This has been one of the worst markets ever for my timing system. As of last week, YTD return is 6.0% compared to -0.2% for the S&P. Yeah, I'm ahead of the market, but I'm not happy, especially lately. Lots of short term market swings, and not profitable on these kind of trades. I'm ready for the market to make up it's mind, and either crash or soar. I'm 100% S, but if we have another big down day tomorrow, it may signal an exit to G fund cash.
 
A friend of mine here in the BOP made 80k this year in 4 trades! He's sitting at 200k now. These huge swings are tradeable, just not for me, I lack discipline. I followed the SS this year and am still negative. I was really hoping for more especially after last years performance.

Beginning in Jan, I'm just going to play the swings. Market goes up 4~5% I'm out, same on the way down. I think the Eurozone drama will provide the fuel. Probably make 6-8 trades all year. This is the strategy used by my buddy, it just worked better for him because of the huge swings this fall.

Anyway, I appreciate your thread. :)
 
A friend of mine here in the BOP made 80k this year in 4 trades! He's sitting at 200k now. These huge swings are tradeable, just not for me, I lack discipline. I followed the SS this year and am still negative. I was really hoping for more especially after last years performance.

Beginning in Jan, I'm just going to play the swings. Market goes up 4~5% I'm out, same on the way down. I think the Eurozone drama will provide the fuel. Probably make 6-8 trades all year. This is the strategy used by my buddy, it just worked better for him because of the huge swings this fall.

Anyway, I appreciate your thread. :)

Sounds like your buddy is doing a great job of timing the tops and bottoms. If he doesn't mind and you have time, can you share them here? Possibly in your account talk thread?
:D

Thanks
 
I'm going to be in contact with him more as we go along here. When we decide to make a move, I probably post it.

I just want out of December with a profit so I can start fresh. I've got a good trade going on this one, (until the bottom falls out on some Euro bullcrap).
 
I know what you mean, Cactus. But if you're only 10 yrs out, I think you'll be fine. 20 or 30 yrs, not so sure.

The only surprise was when we calculated the Federal pension. It's not very big, and my wife will have to put in another 7 yrs to get her 20 yrs. If you work 20 yrs, you get 10% more pension payout than if you work less than 20 yrs.

Needless to say, my wife was rather deflated by that fact. She was hoping to retire in less than five yrs. Oh well, put your nose to the grindstone, Hun. LOL! ;)
Thanks for the feedback. I am also surprized by the 10% bonus for working over 20 years. If it were me, I'd work another 2 years to get the 10%. I had heard of the bonus but thought you only got that if you retired after 62. It's for not using the Social Security suplement when retiring before 62.

Of course if you,ve been following the bill the House passed last night we may not be getting that anymore.
http://www.fedsmith.com/article/3212/house-bill-would-extend-pay-freeze.html
I'm not sure if we are grandfathered in or if this affects us as well as new employees. The surprizing thing in that bill is the change to the FERS multiplier from 1% to 0.7% a year. I hadn't heard that one before. I hope that is only for new hires, but either way I'm only banking on my one legged TSP stool being there. I just need to be careful and sit on the correct side. :)
 
To heck with a pay raise. We have to go from 731 to 582 by Sept. 2012

Pink slips coming in Jan.

The next few years should be real interesting. Merry Christmas.
 
A friend of mine here in the BOP made 80k this year in 4 trades! He's sitting at 200k now. These huge swings are tradeable, just not for me, I lack discipline. I followed the SS this year and am still negative. I was really hoping for more especially after last years performance.

Beginning in Jan, I'm just going to play the swings. Market goes up 4~5% I'm out, same on the way down. I think the Eurozone drama will provide the fuel. Probably make 6-8 trades all year. This is the strategy used by my buddy, it just worked better for him because of the huge swings this fall.

Anyway, I appreciate your thread. :)

Hey James, thanks for stopping by. What is the SS you are following?
 
Thanks for the feedback. I am also surprized by the 10% bonus for working over 20 years. If it were me, I'd work another 2 years to get the 10%. I had heard of the bonus but thought you only got that if you retired after 62. It's for not using the Social Security suplement when retiring before 62.

Of course if you,ve been following the bill the House passed last night we may not be getting that anymore.
http://www.fedsmith.com/article/3212/house-bill-would-extend-pay-freeze.html
I'm not sure if we are grandfathered in or if this affects us as well as new employees. The surprizing thing in that bill is the change to the FERS multiplier from 1% to 0.7% a year. I hadn't heard that one before. I hope that is only for new hires, but either way I'm only banking on my one legged TSP stool being there. I just need to be careful and sit on the correct side. :)

You are correct: You will receive 1.1% if age 62 and 20+ yrs of service.

Let's hope that they don't change it to 0.7%! That's a HUGE cut!
 
To heck with a pay raise. We have to go from 731 to 582 by Sept. 2012

Pink slips coming in Jan.

The next few years should be real interesting. Merry Christmas.

Hmmm... If I did my math correctly, that means 1 in 5 will lose their jobs if that's true. Let's hope not. :blink:
 
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