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Soldat
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Asatru has been around for almost 30,000 years. Ten times longer than baby jesus? Don't make me regret wishing you better holy days, when in return you offer a meager attempt of belittling my faith.
Anyhoo, looks to be another great day for the I fund! Time shall tell. For those not in the I fund, you will see gains anyways! The beauty of a years end!
Asatru has been around for almost 30,000 years. Ten times longer than baby jesus? Don't make me regret wishing you better holy days, when in return you offer a meager attempt of belittling my faith.
Anyhoo, looks to be another great day for the I fund! Time shall tell. For those not in the I fund, you will see gains anyways! The beauty of a years end!
SkyPilot
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Soldat wrote:
Actually, Odhinn (the Alfather)confers no blessings, but rather expects you to use your abilities and personal strength to take care of yourself and produce your own blessings as you care for your kindred. However, he may fly over and inspect how well you have done with your responsibilites to judge your worth.
Odhinn's symbols include the raven, the wolf, and the spear. Odhinn is said to have two ravens, Hugin (thought) and Munin (memory) that he sends forth into the world every day to gather information for him. He is also said to have two wolves Geri (greedy) and Freki (fierce). He is said to feed the wolves the meat from his plate in Valhalla as all he needs for sustenance is Mead. Odhinn's spear, Gungnir, crafted by the sons of Ilvadi, is said to have the power to determine victory in battle. Another of Odhinn's symbols is the valknut, three triangles interlaced.
Odhinn was the giver of runes to mankind and was also responsible for the rescue of the poetic mead of inspiration. (See Havamal in the Poetic Edda and Mead of Poetry for the stories).
And, out of respect for the man, if not the deity, please use the common courtesy of capitalization when you refer to other religious figures where appropriate, i.e. Jesus, Raa,Hubal,etc. I am sure you do not intend to offend.
Enjoy your solstice.
By the way, Abraxas: (from your profile)
Abraxas: A term used by the Basilideans, a Gnostic sect of the second century, designating the Supreme Being or god whom they worshipped. They believed that Jesus Christ emanated from Abraxas and was a phantom while here on earth. They believed the name contained great mysteries because it contained the seven Greek letters when computed numerically equaled the number 365, which is the number of days in the year. It was further believed that Abraxas commanded 365 gods, each possessing a virtue, so there was a virtue for each day of the year.
However, older mythologists place Abraxas among the Egyptian gods, while some demonologists cite him to be a demon with the head of a king and serpents forming his feet. He has been represented on amulets with a whip in his hand. The mystic word abracadabra was derived from his name. Many stones and gems were cut with his capricious symbolic markings, such as a human body having a fowl's or lion's heads, and snakes as limbs, which were worn by the Basilideans as amulets. Also, a favorite amulet bore the number 365.
Later Gnostic symbols were adopted by many societies devoted to magic and alchemy. It is most likely, therefore, that most abraxas stones that contained kabbalistic symbols made in the Middle Ages were talismans. [size=-1]A.G.H.[/size]
So, are you and Asatrar, or a Gnostic?
Soldat wrote:
Actually, Odhinn (the Alfather)confers no blessings, but rather expects you to use your abilities and personal strength to take care of yourself and produce your own blessings as you care for your kindred. However, he may fly over and inspect how well you have done with your responsibilites to judge your worth.
Odhinn's symbols include the raven, the wolf, and the spear. Odhinn is said to have two ravens, Hugin (thought) and Munin (memory) that he sends forth into the world every day to gather information for him. He is also said to have two wolves Geri (greedy) and Freki (fierce). He is said to feed the wolves the meat from his plate in Valhalla as all he needs for sustenance is Mead. Odhinn's spear, Gungnir, crafted by the sons of Ilvadi, is said to have the power to determine victory in battle. Another of Odhinn's symbols is the valknut, three triangles interlaced.
Odhinn was the giver of runes to mankind and was also responsible for the rescue of the poetic mead of inspiration. (See Havamal in the Poetic Edda and Mead of Poetry for the stories).
And, out of respect for the man, if not the deity, please use the common courtesy of capitalization when you refer to other religious figures where appropriate, i.e. Jesus, Raa,Hubal,etc. I am sure you do not intend to offend.
Enjoy your solstice.
By the way, Abraxas: (from your profile)
Abraxas: A term used by the Basilideans, a Gnostic sect of the second century, designating the Supreme Being or god whom they worshipped. They believed that Jesus Christ emanated from Abraxas and was a phantom while here on earth. They believed the name contained great mysteries because it contained the seven Greek letters when computed numerically equaled the number 365, which is the number of days in the year. It was further believed that Abraxas commanded 365 gods, each possessing a virtue, so there was a virtue for each day of the year.
However, older mythologists place Abraxas among the Egyptian gods, while some demonologists cite him to be a demon with the head of a king and serpents forming his feet. He has been represented on amulets with a whip in his hand. The mystic word abracadabra was derived from his name. Many stones and gems were cut with his capricious symbolic markings, such as a human body having a fowl's or lion's heads, and snakes as limbs, which were worn by the Basilideans as amulets. Also, a favorite amulet bore the number 365.
Later Gnostic symbols were adopted by many societies devoted to magic and alchemy. It is most likely, therefore, that most abraxas stones that contained kabbalistic symbols made in the Middle Ages were talismans. [size=-1]A.G.H.[/size]
So, are you and Asatrar, or a Gnostic?
grandma
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Soldat wrote:
Skypilot- thank you forclarifying.....
Soldat wrote:
Soldat, belittling your faith was never my intention - I simply was taking a pass on your Odhinn's blessing - I knew not where it came from and had no idea what it was about, so therefore was deliberately cautious.
Skypilot- thank you forclarifying.....
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Soldat---
Actually, Jesus has been around more than 3000 years. He was brought to this earth around 2000 years ago, but has been with his father in heaven long before that. At least that is what Baptist believe.
I know I should'nt be posting this here, but I don't post very oftenso I guess Icould be allowed this onetime to state my opinion on such matters since I've seen other matters posted here not related to financial matters.
Besides, it is the Lordsbirthday on this earth that we will be celebrating soon, is'nt it.
Soldat---
Actually, Jesus has been around more than 3000 years. He was brought to this earth around 2000 years ago, but has been with his father in heaven long before that. At least that is what Baptist believe.
I know I should'nt be posting this here, but I don't post very oftenso I guess Icould be allowed this onetime to state my opinion on such matters since I've seen other matters posted here not related to financial matters.
Besides, it is the Lordsbirthday on this earth that we will be celebrating soon, is'nt it.
Soldat
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Skypilot, nice Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V, which just shows how very well informed you are? And Todd Reimer? I honestly don't care about what Todd Reimer and encyclopedia mythologica say about the religions and customs of my people. Though Odhinn does not GIVE blessings, such blessings are EARNED.
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Themystica.com would not be an adequate source for information on any topic, and less so for gnosticism. If you come to my table to discuss ideas, bring more than an empty plate.
Skypilot, nice Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V, which just shows how very well informed you are? And Todd Reimer? I honestly don't care about what Todd Reimer and encyclopedia mythologica say about the religions and customs of my people. Though Odhinn does not GIVE blessings, such blessings are EARNED.
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Themystica.com would not be an adequate source for information on any topic, and less so for gnosticism. If you come to my table to discuss ideas, bring more than an empty plate.
Soldat
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Grandma, what I had said was not aimed toward you. You may pass on whatever you like. Ou81200, you are free to believe and worship anything you like. I have seen many people worship spam even. That is the beauty of America. And that beauty includes the right to NOT believe. I will not be celebrating any Judeo-Christian Orthodoxies, but Yule? Count me in:^.
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Regardless, the I fund will most likely not gain even a penny due to the dollar on the rise. MSCI EAFE finished .0003 up, what a joke.
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Many Appy-polly-logies for the double post.
Grandma, what I had said was not aimed toward you. You may pass on whatever you like. Ou81200, you are free to believe and worship anything you like. I have seen many people worship spam even. That is the beauty of America. And that beauty includes the right to NOT believe. I will not be celebrating any Judeo-Christian Orthodoxies, but Yule? Count me in:^.
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Regardless, the I fund will most likely not gain even a penny due to the dollar on the rise. MSCI EAFE finished .0003 up, what a joke.
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Many Appy-polly-logies for the double post.
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Greg
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SkyPilot wrote:
SkyPilot wrote:
That don't sound like such a good deal.
SkyPilot
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Soldat, why so militant?
Just accept with grace the fact that you got busted.
Trying to promulgate your beliefs is one thing, being grouchy with those who refute your logic is quite something else. Your acrimony belies your tentative conviction, thus suggesting your subscription to Asatru (or Odinism, do you know the difference) is recent, and therefore you are particularly evangelistic (and intolerant).
As you do not care for the material I posted, choose whatever source you like, as ancient Norse religion is passed on through oral tradition, and though there has been a rediscovery of Asatru in the last several decades, there have not been active kindreds for many thousands of years. So, you can not claim authority regarding the knowledge or understanding of this theology above anyone else, as it is an individual journey. Norse religion, long dormant and only then recently resurgent much as Wicca has enjoyed in the last 150 years, owes it's new found interest to the loosely termed "New Age" movement, and popularized through the Arianist movement.
So, as it does not exhibit a systematic theology, and can demonstrate scant if any written material, it is thereby open to many interpretations and in your case, likely inventions. One may note however, though you reject the author of the material I posted, you did not take issue with the material.
Please inform us of those whose writings you do consider authoritive. Fourteen Words press, perhaps? This would be consistent with an internet search of many of the items for sale from websites touting the term "Soldat". Anyone can do the research, so you may not hide or effectively denythis information.
Most of what we know is documented by scholars, and not practitioners, thus the dearth of written material. May I suggest you study the Poetic Edda more thoroughly and spend less time trying to insinuate your beliefs into the conversations and the concerns of others? This approach is not usually appreciated no matter what the religious context. Your shameful attempt at this regarding Mlk_Mn's personal family tragedy is repugnant, and your assumptions made in that post were in conflict with your own tradition.
Now, as you have initiated this discussion, you can desist if you choose, as this is a financial forum, not theological.
However, though every one is entitled to an opinion, this forum is for the purposes of financial and related discussions, and your continued efforts at evangelism and condescension of other's beliefs will not likely be appreciated or well received.
Soldat, why so militant?
Just accept with grace the fact that you got busted.
Trying to promulgate your beliefs is one thing, being grouchy with those who refute your logic is quite something else. Your acrimony belies your tentative conviction, thus suggesting your subscription to Asatru (or Odinism, do you know the difference) is recent, and therefore you are particularly evangelistic (and intolerant).
As you do not care for the material I posted, choose whatever source you like, as ancient Norse religion is passed on through oral tradition, and though there has been a rediscovery of Asatru in the last several decades, there have not been active kindreds for many thousands of years. So, you can not claim authority regarding the knowledge or understanding of this theology above anyone else, as it is an individual journey. Norse religion, long dormant and only then recently resurgent much as Wicca has enjoyed in the last 150 years, owes it's new found interest to the loosely termed "New Age" movement, and popularized through the Arianist movement.
So, as it does not exhibit a systematic theology, and can demonstrate scant if any written material, it is thereby open to many interpretations and in your case, likely inventions. One may note however, though you reject the author of the material I posted, you did not take issue with the material.
Please inform us of those whose writings you do consider authoritive. Fourteen Words press, perhaps? This would be consistent with an internet search of many of the items for sale from websites touting the term "Soldat". Anyone can do the research, so you may not hide or effectively denythis information.
Most of what we know is documented by scholars, and not practitioners, thus the dearth of written material. May I suggest you study the Poetic Edda more thoroughly and spend less time trying to insinuate your beliefs into the conversations and the concerns of others? This approach is not usually appreciated no matter what the religious context. Your shameful attempt at this regarding Mlk_Mn's personal family tragedy is repugnant, and your assumptions made in that post were in conflict with your own tradition.
Now, as you have initiated this discussion, you can desist if you choose, as this is a financial forum, not theological.
However, though every one is entitled to an opinion, this forum is for the purposes of financial and related discussions, and your continued efforts at evangelism and condescension of other's beliefs will not likely be appreciated or well received.
Soldat
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Nice invocation of Godwin's law. Your fallacy Ad Hominem is not adequate. Whats next? Abu Graihab? Take a walk, I am not pushing my beliefs onto anyone.
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Remember, all of this precipitated from my wishing you better "holy days".
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For information on asatru, why not try www.asatru.org ? Much better than your search of LJ's muahahahaaha.
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Don't bother replying, your invocation of Godwin's Law and insinuation of fiction over fact shows your true colors. You have effectively killed the thread.
Nice invocation of Godwin's law. Your fallacy Ad Hominem is not adequate. Whats next? Abu Graihab? Take a walk, I am not pushing my beliefs onto anyone.
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Remember, all of this precipitated from my wishing you better "holy days".
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For information on asatru, why not try www.asatru.org ? Much better than your search of LJ's muahahahaaha.
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Don't bother replying, your invocation of Godwin's Law and insinuation of fiction over fact shows your true colors. You have effectively killed the thread.
SkyPilot
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Don't bother replying?
Is that how you conduct your discourse, by trying to silence those with whom you are unable to contest?
You give far to little credit to those who read and post here. As you have seen, you cannot belittle those with whom you disagree into silence.
Again you reject, but do not refute. Your response in itself is it's own parochial polemic, as well as your misunderstanding andthereforeinadequate.
However, you invoke this law, not I. It is interesting that you retreated to this particular shelter. Have you revealed something which you cannot now retract?
You have been exposed, and can now only imagine what others will find as they research your posts, (i.e., SOLDAT) and your true self is laid bare. But remember, it is all of your own doing, now you must own it.
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For those of you unfamiliar with Godwin's law as Soldat referenced:
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Godwin's Law (also Godwin's Rule of Nazi analogies) is an adage in Internet culture that was originated by Mike Godwin in 1990. The law states that:
As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1.
Although the law does not specifically mention it, there is a tradition in many Usenet newsgroups that once such a comparison is made, the thread is over, and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever argument was in progress.
It is considered poor form to arbitrarily raise such a comparison with the motive of ending the thread.
There is a widely recognized codicil that any such deliberate invocation of Godwin's Law will be unsuccessful.
Don't bother replying?
Is that how you conduct your discourse, by trying to silence those with whom you are unable to contest?
You give far to little credit to those who read and post here. As you have seen, you cannot belittle those with whom you disagree into silence.
Again you reject, but do not refute. Your response in itself is it's own parochial polemic, as well as your misunderstanding andthereforeinadequate.
However, you invoke this law, not I. It is interesting that you retreated to this particular shelter. Have you revealed something which you cannot now retract?
You have been exposed, and can now only imagine what others will find as they research your posts, (i.e., SOLDAT) and your true self is laid bare. But remember, it is all of your own doing, now you must own it.
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For those of you unfamiliar with Godwin's law as Soldat referenced:
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Godwin's Law (also Godwin's Rule of Nazi analogies) is an adage in Internet culture that was originated by Mike Godwin in 1990. The law states that:
As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1.
Although the law does not specifically mention it, there is a tradition in many Usenet newsgroups that once such a comparison is made, the thread is over, and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever argument was in progress.
It is considered poor form to arbitrarily raise such a comparison with the motive of ending the thread.
There is a widely recognized codicil that any such deliberate invocation of Godwin's Law will be unsuccessful.
Soldat
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So your remark about "14 words press" was not an invocation of Godwin's law? For sure it was an insinuation of totalitarianism and slander against myself. Your incessant and irrelevant rhetoric does not impress anyone.
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Continue to exploit your fallacy Ad Hominem as you attack my person, it seems to be working well for you. Why not give a 50 post while your at it?
So your remark about "14 words press" was not an invocation of Godwin's law? For sure it was an insinuation of totalitarianism and slander against myself. Your incessant and irrelevant rhetoric does not impress anyone.
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Continue to exploit your fallacy Ad Hominem as you attack my person, it seems to be working well for you. Why not give a 50 post while your at it?
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I'm wondering if jumping out of the S fund today wasa mistake. Oh well. I just think the S fund is just too volitile right now. Once the feds stop the rate hikes, I think the C fund will fare well. As for the I fund, I think the dollar has more room to decline. It's been my saving grace these past few weeks as for cushioning my losses on bad day like today. Any inputs on this will be appreciated.
I'm wondering if jumping out of the S fund today wasa mistake. Oh well. I just think the S fund is just too volitile right now. Once the feds stop the rate hikes, I think the C fund will fare well. As for the I fund, I think the dollar has more room to decline. It's been my saving grace these past few weeks as for cushioning my losses on bad day like today. Any inputs on this will be appreciated
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Birchtree
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Germany comprises a 6.5% position in the I fund. Why does that matter - well it all matters. While private-equity firms have been an ever-bigger feature in Europe's M&A landscape, nowhere is that more so than in Germany. With two weeks left in the year, private equity has accounted for 25% of all German targeted M&A, up from 24% last year and just 4.7% in 2001. This compares with almost 14% in the U.K., Europe's biggest buyout market, and 15% across Europe. The I fund has gotten expensive but then quality has to be paid for - surely there is more to go after a short period of sideways consolidation. If you own it - stay the course.
Germany comprises a 6.5% position in the I fund. Why does that matter - well it all matters. While private-equity firms have been an ever-bigger feature in Europe's M&A landscape, nowhere is that more so than in Germany. With two weeks left in the year, private equity has accounted for 25% of all German targeted M&A, up from 24% last year and just 4.7% in 2001. This compares with almost 14% in the U.K., Europe's biggest buyout market, and 15% across Europe. The I fund has gotten expensive but then quality has to be paid for - surely there is more to go after a short period of sideways consolidation. If you own it - stay the course.
