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F Fund
- Thread starter The_Technician
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fabijo
Well-known member
F-fund down .06 Friday.
I can't remember the last time, if ever, the F fund dropped that much in one day.
Help! I hope that means good buying opportunity!
Griffin
Well-known member
Ten year note was up about 2.5% yesterday, unless it retest's the low, I'd expect more pain ahead.
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FUTURESTRADER
Active member
Not necessarily, maybe a 'one day' play since $tnx popped and AGG dropped to the extent they did, but that move would have had to been made friday morning for Monday. AGG put in a strong double top before the drop, and $TNX put in a strong double bottom. Both were going in/out of overbought/oversold stochastics, respectively.
This happens really frequently, almost like they dampen the swings. Flip side is when AGG is down .27% and you only lose a penny.
weatherweenie
Well-known member
It's bad enough that we can't depend on EFA to indicate what the I fund will do, now we can't depend on AGG for insight into the F fund?
What is a boy to do? :notrust:
Hard times coming for F fund??
PETER BRIMELOW
Dow's high doesn't impress everyone
Commentary: Richard Russell is wary, Don Hays is worrying
By Peter Brimelow, MarketWatch
Last Update: 12:01 AM ET Nov 9, 2006
But, Bianco continued: "The significance of a divided or unified government is, however, apparent in bond total returns. During times of unified government, long bonds return 2.18%. When the government is divided, thus ensuring some level of gridlock, bonds return 8.82%."
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/Story.aspx?guid={607FDC6B-462B-4934-B520-82BC6531667A}&siteid=
PETER BRIMELOW
Dow's high doesn't impress everyone
Commentary: Richard Russell is wary, Don Hays is worrying
By Peter Brimelow, MarketWatch
Last Update: 12:01 AM ET Nov 9, 2006
But, Bianco continued: "The significance of a divided or unified government is, however, apparent in bond total returns. During times of unified government, long bonds return 2.18%. When the government is divided, thus ensuring some level of gridlock, bonds return 8.82%."
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/Story.aspx?guid={607FDC6B-462B-4934-B520-82BC6531667A}&siteid=
ATCJeff
Well-known member
For those moving to the F fund tomorrow.....
Looking at the chart, iShares Lehman Aggregate Bond (AGG), I do not see bond prices moving higher. To me it looks like we are up against resitance @ 100.48.
http://tinyurl.com/ylevcp
Looking at the chart, iShares Lehman Aggregate Bond (AGG), I do not see bond prices moving higher. To me it looks like we are up against resitance @ 100.48.
http://tinyurl.com/ylevcp
I haven't looked at bond yields for a few days and was surprised this morning to see the yield curve TOTALLY inverted. While the 2 year bond has been paying more than the 5 or 10 year note for some time, the 30 year long bond always paid more. Right now the 2 year is paying 4.77% versus 4.68 for the 30 year. When did this happen and what does it mean? Whatever yield curve inversion portends, I have a feeling that something is getting much worse.
James48843
Well-known member
Some say it means a recession is just ahead.
Com-on gurus!
nnuut
Moderator | TSP Legend
I don't think so!
11/24/2006 - Updated 9:41 AM ET
Treasurys benefit from weakness in equitiesThe 10-year benchmark Treasury yield hits an eight-month low
</IMG>By Leslie Wines, MarketWatch
NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- Treasury prices were higher early Friday, sending yields down, as the fixed-income market drew support from capital flows out of the equities market as stock traders expressed nervousness about a sharply lower dollar.
The bond market will have an early close at 2 p.m.
The 10-year benchmark Treasury note last was down 6/32 at 100-21/32, with a yield [$TNX] of 4.544%, its weakest level in eight months and down from 4.565% in late trade on Wednesday. Prices and yields move in opposite directions. The 30-year bond rose 9/32 to 97-31/32, with a yield [$TYX] of 4.627%.
The 2-year note last was up 2/32 at 100-9/32, with a 4.727% yield.
Treasurys extended Wednesday gains in thin trading, "helped by a rally in German bunds and Japanese bonds as well as weakness in equities," according to Action Economics. Bonds in overseas markets earlier also benefited from declines in stock markets.
http://markets.usatoday.com/custom/...S&guid={3E5DFB3E-B89C-4105-94EC-DE9BA83AB1D8}
11/24/2006 - Updated 9:41 AM ET
NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- Treasury prices were higher early Friday, sending yields down, as the fixed-income market drew support from capital flows out of the equities market as stock traders expressed nervousness about a sharply lower dollar.
The bond market will have an early close at 2 p.m.
The 10-year benchmark Treasury note last was down 6/32 at 100-21/32, with a yield [$TNX] of 4.544%, its weakest level in eight months and down from 4.565% in late trade on Wednesday. Prices and yields move in opposite directions. The 30-year bond rose 9/32 to 97-31/32, with a yield [$TYX] of 4.627%.
The 2-year note last was up 2/32 at 100-9/32, with a 4.727% yield.
Treasurys extended Wednesday gains in thin trading, "helped by a rally in German bunds and Japanese bonds as well as weakness in equities," according to Action Economics. Bonds in overseas markets earlier also benefited from declines in stock markets.
http://markets.usatoday.com/custom/...S&guid={3E5DFB3E-B89C-4105-94EC-DE9BA83AB1D8}
FUTURESTRADER
Active member
nnuut...$tnx is on pretty strong support and could hold but.... it's oversold and 'whats oversold can stay oversold'. My thinking is $tnx holds and AGG is topped ..prognostication good for 1-2 days only. 
The_Technician
Active member
Yeap Nnuut, I think you hit it on the head, the F fund can really do you in...if you don't know what you're doing with it, guessing at it, you could just go straight to heeellll being in it....
nnuut
Moderator | TSP Legend
They don't call it the Fn' fund for nothing.
Ya know how I use technical analysis to plan my allocations? I have been working on this system for 5 years, and back tested it for 3 years. I flip a coin two out of three, if I get two heads I go all "C" fund, two tails all "S" fund, three heads all "I" fund, three tails all "G" fund, if I drop a coin "F" fund! Works every time!!
Ya know how I use technical analysis to plan my allocations? I have been working on this system for 5 years, and back tested it for 3 years. I flip a coin two out of three, if I get two heads I go all "C" fund, two tails all "S" fund, three heads all "I" fund, three tails all "G" fund, if I drop a coin "F" fund!
Works every time!!
The_Technician
Active member
They don't call it the Fn' fund for nothing.
Ya know how I use technical analysis to plan my allocations? I have been working on this system for 5 years, and back tested it for 3 years. I flip a coin two out of three, if I get two heads I go all "C" fund, two tails all "S" fund, three heads all "I" fund, three tails all "G" fund, if I drop a coin "F" fund!
Maybe you should consider upgrading to a newer coin.....:nuts:
