F Fund

[SCHAGAN]

I'll echo the bitterness on getting beat up in the F fund as the market declines.

And I didn't get my penny either. G fund posted today.

 

[Aspiration]

Lovely. :suspicious:

 

[Christopher]

MAN, that was SOME knee-jerk reaction in the ol' "BOMB" fund today...

 

[Fivetears]

I'm certain there were quite a few "F-Bombs" dropped.

 

[amauldin]

I think it will be a good while before many of us trust the F fund again as a safe place to park our cash. You can only get F'ed over so many times before it becomes personal. :suspicious:

 

[Fivetears]

But you have to admit... it had one helluva blast upward since the begining of July.

I think it will be a good while before many of us trust the F fund again as a safe place to park our cash. You can only get F'ed over so many times before it becomes personal. :suspicious:

 

[DoughBoy]

Does anyone have any thoughts (productive, that is) on the F fund? Is it time to re-enter? People seem to be talking about more rate cut by the end of the year.
I am truely clueless on this fund.:embarrest:

 

[vectorman]

There might be a play in the F fund for tomorrow. The AGG gapped down today, and seems to be holding at 99.5, looks to be a good support. I was looking for a retacement to 99, but it may not happen. If you follow the Elliott wave theory, we could be either starting way 5 or wave b, depending on your out look on wave 3 ( should be longer than 1 and 5) and 4 ( should not overlap wave 1). Anyway there still may be a one day move or short trend reversal to fill the gap. Check it out.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliott_wave_principle

 

[vectorman]

A different picture of the AGG chart with a possible Elliott wave and an extended 5th wave. GDP and jobless claims out tomorrow. China may be turning over. The VIX gapped down ( which rises the point that the market should be having a bigger rally than what we're seeing???). The SPX and DWCP as of 12est are holding right below resistence. If Tom's theory of a coming pull back is correct that will help the F fund ( perhaps for wave b).

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[Sonic]

Looks like it might finish in the green today!

 

[vectorman]

Looks like it might finish in the green today!

The AGG sometime is not as accurate as using the 10yr Tres chart ( look at the 5 day chart). Check to see where the 10yr finished yesterday, and whether today likely will finish about the same, or higher or lower. Even then, tonights change $ may be alittle off. I've notice now the TSP police sometimes does a Fair Valuation just like the I fund.

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[Sonic]

I still dont under stand the FV. I have read the posts on it but I am still confused.:blink: Thanks for your post!

 

[vectorman]

I still dont under stand the FV. I have read the posts on it but I am still confused.:blink: Thanks for your post!

There is alot of old post in the I fund section that talk about FV. I've just recently noticed that the some technique to counter traders in the I fund, is sometimes being used in the F fund.

 

[DoughBoy]

Thank you very much Vectorman! Excellent information. The way I read your charts, it is looking positive. What would you be looking for Thursday morning before buying in, up/down/flat?
Thanks, DoughBoy

 

[DoughBoy]

I was looking at picking up the G penny and buying in to the F for tomorrow. Looks to me like F's price is still moving south of moving avg. I am staying put in the G and looking for a buying opportunity in stocks.

 

[FUTURESTRADER]

$TNX dropping out of stochastic overbought today, good for F going forward

 

[vectorman]

I agree with above post. Agg is in a triangle that tested to the upside briefly. RSI held at support and has broke through a negative devergence.
The AGG climbed off 99.5 with strong volume yesterday. Looks to be in a short uptrend.

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[vectorman]

10yr Tres, 5 year chart. Notice that each time the 4.5 has broken from below to above, there was a retest back to 4.5.

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[vectorman]

3yr AGG chart. it looks like the AGG may be heading back over 100. The question is, is the SPX really in a Cup and Handle pattern, positioned for a brakeout, or are we due for a pullback that will help the F fund?

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[vectorman]

As I said in post #317 ( ,http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/showpost.php?p=118728&postcount=317) sometimes the AGG chart does not give you a clear picture of what price to expect in the F fund at the end of the day. For example, looking at the AGG chart yesterday, you probably thought the F fund would be down alot. But looking at the 10yr T chart you see a different picture.

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