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Okay, I've done several posts related to the bail-out on my thread this morning. Just one more and then I'm going to go outside at take a look at the flowers and try to remember what's good about life. :o

Y'all be careful out there!
Lady

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]A Better Bailout[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]By Joseph E. Stiglitz[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]26 September, 2008[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]T[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]he champagne bottle corks were popping as Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson announced his trillion-dollar bailout for the banks, buying up their toxic mortgages. To a skeptic, Paulson's proposal looks like another of those shell games that Wall Street has honed to a fine art. Wall Street has always made money by slicing, dicing, and recombining risk. This "cure" is another one of these rearrangements: somehow, by stripping out the bad assets from the banks and paying fair market value for them, the value of the banks will soar. [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]There is, however, an alternative explanation for Wall Street's celebration: the banks realized that they were about to get a free ride at taxpayers' expense. No private firm was willing to buy these toxic mortgages at what the seller thought was a reasonable price; they finally had found a sucker who would take them off their hands--called the American taxpayer. [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The administration attempts to assure us that they will protect the American people by insisting on buying the mortgages at the lowest price at auction. Evidently, Paulson didn't learn the lessons of information asymmetry which played such a large role in getting us into this mess. The banks will pass on their lousiest mortgages. Paulson may try to assure us that we will hire the best and brightest of Wall Street to make sure that this doesn't happen. (Wall Street firms are already licking their lips at the prospect of a new source of revenues: fees from the US Treasury.) But even Wall Street's best and brightest do not exactly have a credible record in asset valuation; if they had done better, we wouldn't be where we are. And that assumes that they are really working for the American people, not their long-term employers in financial markets. Even if they do use some fancy mathematical model to value different mortgages, those in Wall Street have long made money by gaming against these models. We will then wind up not with the absolutely lousiest mortgages, but with those in which Treasury's models most underpriced risk. Either way, we the taxpayers lose, and Wall Street gains. [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]And for what? In the S&L bailout, taxpayers were already on the hook, with their deposit guarantee. Part of the question then was how to minimize taxpayers' exposure. But not so this time. The objective of the bailout should not be to protect the banks' shareholders, or even their creditors, who facilitated this bad lending. The objective should be to maintain the flow of credit, especially to mortgages. But wasn't that what the Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac bailout was suppose to assure us? [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]There are four fundamental problems with our financial system, and the Paulson proposal addresses only one. The first is that the financial institutions have all these toxic products--which they created--and since no one trusts anyone about their value, no one is willing to lend to anyone else. The Paulson approach solves this by passing the risk to us, the taxpayer--and for no return. The second problem is that there is a big and increasing hole in bank balance sheets--banks lent money to people beyond their ability to repay--and no financial alchemy will fix that. If, as Paulson claims, banks get paid fairly for their lousy mortgages and the complex products in which they are embedded, the hole in their balance sheet will remain. What is needed is a transparent equity injection, not the non-transparent ruse that the administration is proposing. [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The third problem is that our economy has been supercharged by a housing bubble which has now burst. The best experts believe that prices still have a way to fall before the return to normal, and that means there will be more foreclosures. No amount of talking up the market is going to change that. The hidden agenda here may be taking large amounts of real estate off the market--and letting it deteriorate at taxpayers' expense. [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The fourth problem is a lack of trust, a credibility gap. Regrettably, the way the entire financial crisis has been handled has only made that gap larger. [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Paulson and others in Wall Street are claiming that the bailout is necessary and that we are in deep trouble. Not long ago, they were telling us that we had turned a corner. The administration even turned down an effective stimulus package last February--one that would have included increased unemployment benefits and aid to states and localities--and they still say we don't need another stimulus. To be frank, the administration has a credibility and trust gap as big as that of Wall Street. If the crisis was as severe as they claim, why didn't they propose a more credible plan? With lack of oversight and transparency the cause of the current problem, how could they make a proposal so short in both? If a quick consensus is required, why not include provisions to stop the source of bleeding, the millions of Americans that are losing their homes? Why not spend as much on them as on Wall Street? Do they still believe in trickle down economics, when for the past eight years money has been trickling up to the wizards of Wall Street? Why not enact bankruptcy reform, to help Americans write down the value of the mortgage on their overvalued home? No one benefits from these costly foreclosures. [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The administration is once again holding a gun at our head, saying, "My way or the highway." We have been bamboozled before by this tactic. We should not let it happen to us again. There are alternatives. Warren Buffet showed the way, in providing equity to Goldman Sachs. The Scandinavian countries showed the way, almost two decades ago. By issuing preferred shares with warrants (options), one reduces the public's downside risk and insures that they participate in some of the upside potential. This approach is not only proven, it provides both incentives and wherewithal to resume lending. It furthermore avoids the hopeless task of trying to value millions of complex mortgages and even more complex products in which they are embedded, and it deals with the "lemons" problem--the government getting stuck with the worst or most overpriced assets. [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Finally, we need to impose a special financial sector tax to pay for the bailouts conducted so far. We also need to create a reserve fund so that poor taxpayers won't have to be called upon again to finance Wall Street's foolishness. [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]If we design the right bailout, it won't lead to an increase in our long term debt--we might even make a profit. But if we implement the wrong strategy, there is a serious risk that our national debt--already overburdened from a failed war and eight years of fiscal profligacy--will soar, and future living standards will be compromised. The president seemed to think that his new shell game will arrest the decline in house prices, and we won't be faced holding a lot of bad mortgages. I hope he's right, but I wouldn't count on it: it's not what most housing experts say. The president's economic credentials are hardly stellar. Our national debt has already climbed from $5.7 trillion to over $9 trillion in eight years, and the deficits for 2008 and 2009--not including the bailouts--are expected to reach new heights. There is no such thing as a free war--and no such thing as a free bailout. The bill will be paid, in one way or another. [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Perhaps by the time this article is published, the administration and Congress will have reached an agreement. No politician wants to be accused of being responsible for the next Great Depression by blocking key legislation. By all accounts, the compromise will be far better than the bill originally proposed by Paulson but still far short of what I have outlined should be done. No one expects them to address the underlying causes of the problem: the spirit of excessive deregulation that the Bush Administration so promoted. Almost surely, there will be plenty of work to be done by the next president and the next Congress. It would be better if we got it right the first time, but that is expecting too much of this president and his administration. [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Joseph E. Stiglitz is University Professor at Columbia University. He received the Nobel Prize in Economics in 2001 for research on the economics of information. [/FONT]


http://www.countercurrents.org/stiglitz270908.htm
 
Okay, one more post to add to the handful I've already posted today on the bail-out. I've been reading the draft language and these are my first impressions, in no particular order.

The bill does contain some good things:

- protecting troubled assets held by eligible retirement programs.

- limits on Golden Parachutes are defined as limits on compensation rather than on salary

- government will receive “meaningful equity positions” in institutions that are bailed out.

Some eyebrow raisers:

- They're asking for one-tenth of the entire fiscal budget, to begin with. President has the ability to up that to one third of the entire budget if he writes a report saying it’s necessary.

-The Oversight Board is a list of the people whose pictures are on my dart board

- They don’t have to report what they’re doing until a week after they spend the first $50 billion of our money.

- The government can now spend $11.3 trillion that we don’t have. That’s the kind of thinking that got us into this mess in the first place.

My overall impression is that TARP is a four-letter word. :worried:

Lady
 
You guys understand the "hole in the balance sheet," right? Assets equal liabilities plus equity. So if I have $1M in liabilities, I've got to have at least $1M in assets. But money is just an idea we have all agreed to believe in. So I have $1M in liabilities but now the market says I only have $500K in assets. That's the "hole in the balance sheet."

If my home was my only asset, the drop in the market worth of that home would give me a hole in my personal balance sheet. Now I'm willing to suck it up and eat that. But I'm not willing to eat that hole and then use my tax dollars to plug everybody else's balance sheet holes at the same time! My guess is that you aren't either.

There is a song running through my head this morning: "....They got the gold mine and we got the shaft...." :notrust:

Lady

I was just rereading my rants on the bail-out and, OMG, did I ever leave the wrong impression with one post! My "hole in the balance sheet" $1M example was to talk you through a hypothetical to make it clearer what I was talking about. But it's possible to read that as being my personal situation. Yeah right, I should be so lucky. :embarrest: Just wanted to clarify that!

Lady
 
It was election time, again. So, a politician decided to go out to the local reservation to gather support from the Native Americans. They were all assembled in the Council Hall to hear the speech.


The politician had worked up to his finale, and the crowd was getting more and more excited. "I promise better education opportunities for Native Americans!"


The crowd went wild, shouting "Hoya! Hoya!"


The politician was a bit puzzled by the native word, but was encouraged by their enthusiasm. "I promise gambling reforms to allow a Casino on the Reservation!"


"Hoya! Hoya!" cried the crowd, stomping their feet.


"I promise more social reforms and job opportunities for Native Americans!"


The crowd reached a frenzied pitch shouting "Hoya! Hoya! Hoya!"


After the speech, the politician was touring the Reservation, and saw a tremendous herd of cattle. Since he was raised on a ranch, and knew a bit about cattle, he asked the Chief if he could get closer to take a look at the cattle.


"Sure," the Chief said, "but be careful not to step in the hoya."
 
Thank you Lady,
I was hesitant to read any posts today. Afraid it would be basically the G Funders poking fun at the others; so will probably stop here.

As usual - you're like a source of refreshment! :);)
 
S&P 500 Large Cap Index ($SPX) INDX
29-Sep-2008, 13:22 ET, daily, O:1,209.07 H:1,209.07 L:1,161.43 C:1,164.93 V:0 Chg:-48.34
Traditional, 3 box reversal chart

Prelim. Bearish Price Obj. (Revised): 1,110.00

P&F Pattern: Double Bottom Breakdown [SIZE=-1]© StockCharts.com[/SIZE]
 
For what it's worth, and that's probably not much, here are my thoughts on the current TSP situation:

I thought about dabbling in F Fund for about 3 seconds, then decided that the credit situation is too wierd to chance that.

If I understand charts correctly, there is a bear triangle possibility forming in I Fund and that's too scary for me.

If I was in C or S right now I think I would be reluctant to lock in my losses. Especially if I had some time until I needed that money. Because the markets are going to go up eventually. And Baron Rothchild's statement about the best time to buy is when blood is running in the streets has been proven right over and over.

But the SPX now has a preliminary price objective of 1100. And I'm in G now and won't be tempted to even take a nibble out of C Fund until it gets into that 1100 area. And I do think it will get there. So I'll wait.

Y'all keep your powder dry!

Lady
 
Correction: Bearish price objective is now 1030. Look out below ....

Y'all keep your powder dry,
Lady



Agree. Back in Jan-Feb. timeframe, I predicted a market bottom of 1150. I now think I was too optimistic and didn't fully realize the extent of the problems - I think now around 1000 or so is the new target, assuming we get things "stabilized" in the very near future.
 
Low of 1112, revised price objective of 1010, 1/2 hour until close. All hands to the lifeboats.
SPX P&F price objective has gone from 1130 to 990 in the last few hours. Where's my chocolate.

Over the last few weeks, several people have mentioned 800 as a bearish price objective and have had logical explanations for that number (Alevin and Uptrend come immediately to mind, there have probably been others).

Y'all be careful out there,

Lady
 
SPX P&F price objective has gone from 1130 to 990 in the last few hours. Where's my chocolate.

Over the last few weeks, several people have mentioned 800 as a bearish price objective and have had logical explanations for that number (Alevin and Uptrend come immediately to mind, there have probably been others).

Y'all be careful out there,

Lady
Does this mean you're going to start a XL-entSauce company to recoup losses in the market?:nuts:
 
Does this mean you're going to start a XL-entSauce company to recoup losses in the market?:nuts:
No, thank Divine Power that I'm being a chicklett in my little G Fund rut! My "Pasta Sauce" day created more stomach acid than my Tums could handle! :laugh:

Lady
 
Well, since I was invited (something that doesn’t occur very often, you were serious, right?), kind of scanned the last couple of days post in your thread to see what was going on. I’m glad it’s not all financial!

I’ve kind of a mind set about how and when to take my FERS retirement, and guess I’d like to discuss that shortly as I’d rather comment on some of the post I’d glanced at concerning neurological pain.

For years I’ve lived with a condition called Stenosis, with only a vague understanding of its implications as it pertained to me. For years I’ve seen spinal specialist whom has said I need to quit racing off road motorcycles, loose weight, exercise, quit caffeine, don’t drink, wasn’t a candidate for surgery and on and on. When I said for years, I’m talking from the age of 16 (I’m 52 now). Even on the least days of pain, anything short of a narcotic wouldn’t do anything for the pain in my lower body. Ambien to fall asleep for the last 10 years. Only when racing, or riding aggressively and the endorphin level (http://www.road-to-health.com/64/What_are_Endorphins_.html) in my body was brought up was there any sensation of relief. Of course banging around an old body isn’t the best way to medically deal with a condition (mentally, I’m nuts), but it was pain relief for a period of time where nothing else helped. A trip to a back quack would help for about 30 minutes, and one to a spinal specialist sometimes would be rewarded with enough codeine to get me through a week or so, but no long term pain relief.

Right about the time I was going full force into racing again just under two years ago, at age 50, I began to have episodes of tremendous pain and complete loss of feeling below my waist several times a week for periods of 30 seconds or longer. When I finally couldn’t hold my motorcycle up (or perform adequately at work) without constant pain, I began to look out of my area for a spinal specialist. I live in a very remote area where even getting a splinter removed from my sons back when he was kid required my assistance in the local hospital emergency room. I Googled and found a Professor of Neurology at UCSD (University California San Diego) whom is also a spinal specialist in both conventional and non-invasive surgery. After an initial consolation and a properly ordered MRI, we met once again to discuss my options. We discussed my condition, term, levels of pain and when it occurred. He asked about previous treatments and recommendations. After answering his questions, he stated, “none of that worked for you did it?” but not in a questioning way, it was a statement. That’s when I realized that I’d finally found a surgeon that was interested in treating the problem. We opened up the MRI on the CRT, and he pointed out to me (I’m basically a high dollar mechanic, so I know what a pinched line can do) something that none of the other physicians had ever disclosed (maybe it was the Radiologist or physicians interpretation of the paragraph that usually accompanies a $3000.00 imaging procedure). In my lumbar area, in the spinal cannel of three of the vertebrae my spinal cord was being pinched so much it was distorted into almost half diameter in some areas. He said the good news was that he has done hundreds of laminectomys, and that he was confident that the procedure would alleviate the symptoms 100 percent as other than some slight disk compression, there was nothing wrong with my back. The bad was that the surgery was open back, a triple laminectomy, not non-invasive, would require 3 to 4 days hospital stay and about 6 weeks recovery.

On August 26th of last month I checked into Thornton Hospital in LaJolla for the procedure. I was treated with more respect and care than had ever been done for me in my life. The UCSD medical system is by far the best place for medical treatment I’d ever been involved with, but again, I’m not a big city boy or have visited many other facilities such as UCSD. In my short stay many short-term personal relationships with all sorts of physicians and staff developed that will never be forgotten. I’ve had 8 previous surgeries, everything from fingertips being amputated, hernia repairs, shatter bones removed, bones rodded, you name it, and none of it ever scared me. This was entirely different, and the staff knew how to control the situation to make me as comfortable as possible. It was also nice to have so many young bright smiling wide eye students attending the physicians in the clinics and hospital itself.

I was actually allowed to wake up on my own in recovery after almost 6 hours of anesthesia (He gave me a two-fer, also did a ulna decompression on the left elbow) instead of being jarred awake by some attendant and rushed out the door, was visited by almost everyone involved within the hours that followed, and the next morning. Nurse Wendy saw I was wide-awake at 7am eating a nice breakfast from the cafeteria (better than Sizzler!) and said that as soon as I was done she wanted me to sit up. I needed a bit of a tug to sit up right, then after a few minutes was standing. She wanted to know if I’d like to try to walk with the stroller the IV and catheter was attached to. So I did several “laps” (everything is a race to me) around the ward. One of the attendants alerted nurse Wendy and the PA to the surgeon how much I’d been walking, so she asked if I’d like to walk without the stand. Sure, I wanted to walk. From the moment I’d awoken that morning, pain I’d felt for years was completely gone. My big toe had burned as if on fire for over twenty years. Gone. Pain in my leg and hips, gone. There were so many other issues that were related to the condition that are now gone it’s just too hard to describe! I continued to walk around the ward for about an hour, I’d never felt joy quite like this. Pain is the mind killer, and figured I’d just won. I’m a smoker, and was beginning to have fits, even filled with morphine (don’t get me wrong, before the surgery, a spinal block would only slightly alleviate the pain), so casually walked over to the third floor window on the ward. Low and behold there was an elevator, and it lead to an outside smoking area. I figured being a Government worker, it’s better to ask permission later, so I took the elevator down to the first floor, which still left half a floor of steps to actually get outside. As bad as I wanted the smoke, I really wanted to test what this person had done for me, so I navigated the stairs without a flinch. After downing two smokes (make me sick!), I decided to walk the three flights up to the ward. I was almost hoping up the stairs where before I’d be hanging off the handrail, feeling pain with every step.

About the time I rounded the entry door and started back to my room, there was nurse Windy with the surgeons PA standing there with hands on their hips, but for the life of me I couldn’t contain my excitement about the results. Instead of scolding me, she said as it seems I’m doing so well, after a bit of a bowel movement she’d be inclined to release me that day from the hospital. I don’t know about you ladies, but a guy being filled with codeine and morphine makes it pretty damn difficult to urinate, and it was great effort I produced a sample with quantity to convince her to allow me to be discharged.

I walked out of the hospital, no wheel chair that afternoon with my dad. That day went well, and two days after being released there were three days spent in pain I’d never felt before, but finally after a week at my parents (bless their hearts) I was able to drive my self home (200 mile jaunt in a stiff 4x4). With a good supply of codeine, the following couple of weeks were not that bad, no bad reactions, no indication of reversal of the procedure, just the pain from tissue and muscular disturbance. It’s been about 5 weeks now, I’m out doing yard work, refinished the wash room, and aside from being a bit out of shape (which I was in the first place form inactivity for a year or so), feel pretty darn good about life once again.

Now everyone can search the Internet and likely read more horror stories, but finding the right doctor, that can diagnose the actual cause is the road to recovery. It took many years of pain and reading about subjects to make my decision. Fortunately for me it was the correct one. I’m sure technology; micro imagining devices, neural guidance devices and such likely made this the best decision at the best time. You can be sure I’m going to enjoy the “Second Hundred Years” (loved that show).


Even as long as this post is, it isn’t about me. It’s about others that suffer continual neurological pain. It’s a nightmare. There are so many conditions being discovered each year that treatment for any of them is on the edge of medical technology. Others have always said I have so much going for me in life, but I could never see that living in pain. My disposition was so terrible (and I’m still pretty much an azzwhole, the surgery didn’t change that!), and yet my back is still that of a 52 year old with many years of abuse, I can look into the cabinet and know that a Motrin or two will do the job.

Don’t give up, and look outside the box we all live in. There is a whole world of people in the world who would like nothing better than to relieve you of your pain. I would have never thought they existed.

UCSD Medical is a heck of a good place to start. They are also entirely Blue Cross FEP.

http://health.ucsd.edu/specialties/neuro/

http://health.ucsd.edu/specialties/miss/

My Surgeon, one heck of a person, sports active with lots of kids.

[FONT=&quot]http://health.ucsd.edu/UCSD_MD/Results?pict_id=0003350

Next onto my retirement plans. It shouldn't be much longer than this post :)
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Rustynutt, welcome back to my home, and with such great news, too! Congratulations on finding caring medical professionals and on your successful surgery! I'm so happy for you!

Yes, I know the word stenosis well. And words like osteochondrosis, spondylosis, osteophyte, kyphoscoliosis (that's an interesting word - I work hard on my posture and if I have a business suit on you have to really look to see that there is anything wrong, but on x-rays my spine looks like a barber pole! :cheesy:). And other words that I won't list here, but that make me feel like I'm failing a spelling test! ;)

I can fix some of those words with surgery, but a neurosurgeon tells me that my biggest baddest words can only be fixed with an experimental surgery that currently carries a 1 in 4 risk of quadriplegia, and I've never had much luck in Las Vegas, so I'm waiting for medical science to give me better odds!

And Ambien. Oh my, do I know Ambien! :nuts: For those of you who don't, I'll just say that sometimes it helps you sleep and sometimes it just makes you forget that you've stared at the ceiling all night with your teeth gritted. But that's still an improvement over remembering that you have!

BTW, did you see my retirement post to you before it got buried?

http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/showpost.php?p=181854&postcount=206

The 3.9% raise currently in the headlines is Exhibit A for what I was talking about.

Anyway, please drop in any time! Mi casa es su casa!

Lady
 
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Many of you have seen this before, but I thought it was an interesting reminder of what the annual TSP Fund returns were for the years 2000 through 2003. We might want to pay attention to those.

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For what it's worth,

Lady
 
[FONT=Arial,Arial][FONT=Arial,Arial]I've tried several different things to get that pdf image to post so you can all see it without having to click on the link, but no luck. So let me recap the TSP fund returns for the years 2000 through 2003 (all percentages will be rounded to nearest whole number):[/FONT][/FONT]

Year 2000: G and F were 6% and 12% respectively; C, S and I were negative 9%, 16% and 14% respectively.

Year 2001: G and F were 5% and 7% respectively; C, S and I were negative 12%, 9% and 22% respectively.

Year 2002: G and F were 5% and 10% respectively; C, S and I were negative 22%, 18% and 16% respectively.

Year 2003: G and F were both 4%; C, S and I were positive 29%, 43% and 38% respectively.

Food for thought? :) Be cautious, pay attention to F Fund trends and equity fund trends, and be ready? Comments?

Lady
 
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