What do you think, F fund's future?

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clester said:
Researching the agg index it appears it has a 30% or so weighting in MBS passthrough ( mortgage backed securities). So, this may be holding down the price on agg if they are down.
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Can you break this down for me? What does it mean?
 
jpcavin said:
Can you break this down for me? What does it mean?
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The sector break down For agg.

Google agg tonged more info. I think it has Freddie Mac, Fannie may, bank of America etc. stuff in there.

Sector Breakdown as of 8/4/2011View all holdings

Treasuries 33.23%
MBS PASSTHROUGH 32.73%
Industrial 10.92%
Agencies 7.14%
Financial Institutions 6.57%
CMBS 2.36%
Utility 2.30%
Supranational 1.23%
LOCAL AUTHORITIES 1.16%
Sovereign 1.09%
Other/Undefined 1.29%
Total 100.00%
 
clester said:
The sector break down For agg.

Google agg tonged more info. I think it has Freddie Mac, Fannie may, bank of America etc. stuff in there.

Sector Breakdown as of 8/4/2011View all holdings

Treasuries 33.23%
MBS PASSTHROUGH 32.73%
Industrial 10.92%
Agencies 7.14%
Financial Institutions 6.57%
CMBS 2.36%
Utility 2.30%
Supranational 1.23%
LOCAL AUTHORITIES 1.16%
Sovereign 1.09%
Other/Undefined 1.29%
Total 100.00%
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I'm sorry. I didn't mean for you to break it down by sector. I just didn't understand your post. Just 'cause I am on the top of the tracker, doesn't mean I know anything. Just dumb luck working for me right now..:o
 
jpcavin said:
I'm sorry. I didn't mean for you to break it down by sector. I just didn't understand your post. Just 'cause I am on the top of the tracker, doesn't mean I know anything. Just dumb luck working for me right now..:o
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My point is that we are not just in treasurys, but F fund is made up of a lot of bonds from various places so the price reflects all these sectors including MBS etc that may have gotten downgraded. I heard too that some funds may have to sell the riskier assets to meet risk guidelines. Perhaps this is affect F fund.
 
clester said:
My point is that we are not just in treasurys, but F fund is made up of a lot of bonds from various places so the price reflects all these sectors including MBS etc that may have gotten downgraded. I heard too that some funds may have to sell the riskier assets to meet risk guidelines. Perhaps this is affect F fund.
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Got it. ;) Thanks for explaining. :)
 
AGG showed up .05 and F fund was up .44%

Thats good for me. It seems to off as much as I fund and efa sometimes.
 
Agg is the fund you can use to track the F fund on stock charts. It is also supposed to track the same bonds as the F fund. Curious why it was so much different.
 
Let's put some perspective on this. AGG puts in a 52 Week high the day before the S&P Downgrade is announced. It's at the top of a channel, it's overbought, and it just completed a Bull Flag in both time & Price. Sorry guys I'll take a pass on this one.

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clester said:
Agg is the fund you can use to track the F fund on stock charts. It is also supposed to track the same bonds as the F fund. Curious why it was so much different.
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I know AGG is used to track F. Just didn't know it had FV like the I Fund.
 
JTH said:
Let's put some perspective on this. AGG puts in a 52 Week high the day before the S&P Downgrade is announced. It's at the top of a channel, it's overbought, and it just completed a Bull Flag in both time & Price. Sorry guys I'll take a pass on this one.

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Can AGG fall sharply like the other funds or is it gradual?
 
jpcavin said:
Can AGG fall sharply like the other funds or is it gradual?
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When stocks finally turn around I expect F to get hit as folk sell to go back into stocks. Keep an eye this. I plan to swap to stocks when a good bottom is in.
 
clester said:
When stocks finally turn around I expect F to get hit as folk sell to go back into stocks. Keep an eye this. I plan to swap to stocks when a good bottom is in.
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How do you think an announcement from Bernanke to keep interest rates down or QE3 impact the F Fund? Also, within the next three days, US Treasuries has auctions of $32 billion 3-Year notes today, $24 billion 10-Year notes on Wednesday and $16 billion 30-Year notes on Thursday. What are the possible scenarios for the F Fund?
 
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jpcavin said:
How do you think an announcement from Bernanke to keep interest rates down or QE3 impact the F Fund? Also, within the next three days, US Treasuries has auctions of $32 billion 3-Year notes today, $24 billion 10-Year notes on Wednesday and $16 billion 30-Year notes on Thursday. What are the possible scenarios for the F Fund?
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I think QE3 could help F fund but his focus needs to be to help stocks or something to help jobs. I think there will be plenty of folks ready to buy treasurys at the auction because Rick Santelli CNBC 's bond guy said so yesterday.

The question is, what would QE 3 look like? He doesn't have too many options. They say he could buy 30 year treasurys instead of 10's and that would help F fund. It may drive 30 year mortgage rates down.

So, we will just have to wait and see I guess. What is your opinion?
 
clester said:
I think QE3 could help F fund but his focus needs to be to help stocks or something to help jobs. I think there will be plenty of folks ready to buy treasurys at the auction because Rick Santelli CNBC 's bond guy said so yesterday.

The question is, what would QE 3 look like? He doesn't have too many options. They say he could buy 30 year treasurys instead of 10's and that would help F fund. It may drive 30 year mortgage rates down.

So, we will just have to wait and see I guess. What is your opinion?
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My knowledge of all this is very basic. Always read that bonds rise when stocks fall and vice versa. Inflation hurts bonds, etc, etc. Have no idea how or of the auction price affects anything.
I don't think the Fed will announce QE3 just yet. Read somewhere this morning that big corporations are starting to by their stocks back..
Just waiting and watching. Would love a preemtive jump to equities but that would be irresponsible and could prove disastrous.
Just waiting like you.:blink:
 
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