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Iran rejects US proposal to end war, calls it 'excessive,' official tells Iranian state TV​

The statements come as the US pushes to a diplomatic end to the hostilities with Tehran after almost four weeks of fighting.​

Iran has reviewed a US proposal to end the war and considers its conditions excessive, Iran's Press TV cited an official as saying on Wednesday, saying Tehran will end the war only at a time of its own choosing and if its conditions are met.

An Iranian official confirmed to Reuters that the response to the US proposal was not positive and that Tehran was still reviewing it.

Speaking to Al Jazeera, a high-ranking Iranian diplomatic source described the plan as “extremely maximalist and unreasonable.”

“It is not beautiful even on paper,” the source said, adding that what has been portrayed in the media does not actively reflect what is written in the proposal.

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www.jpost.com

Iran has reviewed US proposals and considers them excessive, official says | The Jerusalem Post

The statements come as the US pushes to a diplomatic end to the hostilities with Tehran after almost four weeks of fighting.
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(Jerusalem Post)
 

Iran rejects US ceasefire plan and submits its own amid push for talks​

Tehran puts forward five-point counter-proposal and says war will end when it decides and on its terms

(The Guardian- UK )
—. Iran dismissed a US ceasefire proposal on Wednesday and countered with a negotiation plan of its own as intermediaries sought to keep diplomatic channels between the warring countries open.

Iranian state TV quoted an anonymous official as saying Tehran had rejected the plan it had received via Pakistan, saying it would “end the war when it decides to do so and when its own conditions are met”, and until then would continue fighting across the region.

The five-point plan Iran put forward included an end to the fighting and the assassination of its officials, guarantees that no other war is started against it, reparations for the current conflict, and Iranian control over the strait of Hormuz.

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www.theguardian.com

Iran rejects US ceasefire plan and submits its own amid push for talks

Tehran puts forward five-point counter-proposal and says war will end when it decides and on its terms
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Iran says they want to talk with JD Vance, not the previous pair of negotiators (Golfing buddy Steve Witkoff, and son-gin-law Jared Kushner). Iran says the previous negotiators lied and then had everybody blown up. They won’t deal with those two. They want JD Vance to be the person.
 
Thousands of our military have been killed by Iran over the decades. Iran has been a direct threat to the region for decades, has used intermediary cut-outs as threats for decades, and has funded/supplied organizations that have killed/wounded our military and civilians for decades.

They are nothing but unfinished business.

End it. They can help choose how it ends - much like the Germans, Italians, and Japanese helped choose in WWII.
 
What does the dog do when he finally catches the car and doesn't know what to do with it?

Iran has the high ground.
Numerous proxy fighters scattered throughout the region.
40-60% bordered with countries non-friendly to the US.
Closest bordered ally is Turkey (a con-compliant ally)
The size of Alaska, half mountainous with numerous choke points.
Spent decades thriving under US sanctions with the mantra "Death to America"
Roughly 600K Military on their home turf.

We blew up Iraq and & Afghanistan, put boots on the ground for 20 years, and did not achieve one single long-term objective.

The only country winning right now is Israel.
 
Iran is defenseless.

Soon, if not now, that 600K Mighty Might Military Force will be volunteers - they won't be paid.
Their proxy fighters are turds, worse than useless. Mouths to feed and water.
Their allies are even more useless than their proxy fighters.

You only need to 'put boots on the ground' if you actually care. If you want to help nation build. But, if you don't care, or they don't want the support, or they keep on keepin' then we just leave and bang them around whenever we want to. They are defenseless. This is actually what I fear the Trumpster will do. This could easily turn into the United States version of the Third Punic War. I don't want that. That was a black mark on Rome for the entirety of Rome thereafter.
 
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What is this odd approach of completely downplaying an opponent while ignoring our own issues?

The same thing happened with Russia/Ukraine.
On both sides.

I'm sure our 13 dead servicemen are ecstatic to hear Iran is defenseless.
 
We also should remember “Operation Ajax”, where the U.S. CIA overthrew the democratically elected leader of Iran because they dared to question the money taken by British Petroleum, and instead nationalized the oil fields for the Iranian people. 300 Iranians were killed in the overthrow.

(Stuff doesn’t happen in a vacuum, and our collective U.S. memory seems to fail us too often.)
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On 19 August 1953, Prime Minister of Iran Mohammad Mosaddegh was overthrown in a coup d'état that strengthened the rule of Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, the Shah of Iran.

It was instigated by the United Kingdom(MI6), under the name Operation Boot, and the CiA name Operation Ajax. A key motive was to protect British oil interests in Iran after Mosaddegh nationalized the country's oil industry.
 
James48843 said:
We also should remember “Operation Ajax”, where the U.S. CIA overthrew the democratically elected leader of Iran because they dared to question the money taken by British Petroleum, and instead nationalized the oil fields for the Iranian people. 300 Iranians were killed in the overthrow.

(Stuff doesn’t happen in a vacuum, and our collective U.S. memory seems to fail us too often.)
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On 19 August 1953, Prime Minister of Iran Mohammad Mosaddegh was overthrown in a coup d'état that strengthened the rule of Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, the Shah of Iran.

It was instigated by the United Kingdom(MI6), under the name Operation Boot, and the CiA name Operation Ajax. A key motive was to protect British oil interests in Iran after Mosaddegh nationalized the country's oil industry.
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Another odd thing where people ignore what happened before an event they use as justification for their actions.

Like it all happens in a vacuum until they're wronged.
 
At least 10 U.S. troops wounded in Iranian attack on Saudi air base

At least 10 U.S. troops were injured Friday, two seriously, in an Iranian attack on Prince Sultan Air Base in Saudi Arabia, according to U.S. officials familiar with the matter.

The strike on the heavily defended base also damaged at least two U.S. Air Force refueling aircraft, the officials said. They spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the incident with the news media. It was not immediately clear how badly the planes were damaged.

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this article from The Detroit News:
 
James48843 said:
Iran says they want to talk with JD Vance, not the previous pair of negotiators (Golfing buddy Steve Witkoff, and son-gin-law Jared Kushner). Iran says the previous negotiators lied and then had everybody blown up. They won’t deal with those two. They want JD Vance to be the person.
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Why don’t we send real diplomats? Oh wait we don’t have any.
 
I frankly wouldn't rule out an eye for an eye assassination attempt of whoever goes over there...

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This is what is known as a “Pack yer $h-t” letter. It means you gotta stop what you are doing, and go pull out your “Go Bags” and inventory and repack to make sure everything is ready, you have a fresh bar of soap and a fresh pack of blades in your shaving kit, and every bit of gear is accounted for.

Head of the Marine Corps Reserve sends out a message. The Fight’s on. Get your gear packed.

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@James48843 , you don't understand the Marine Corps...

They are 'at the ready' at all times and are fully expected to be deployable at all times. Additionally, there really is no 'back office' Marine. All of them can be deployed. There is no expectation of 'ramp up'. Finally, it does not take an act of Congress to deploy them. It can be immediate.
 
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