Steadygain's Account Talk

Be nice Kona.

Thanks for the visit.

Actually she was being nice and I'd a thousand times over people be as real with their feelings as her.

She misunderstood what was going on. :embarrest::p That's pretty easy to happen with ME.

A woman -- very delightful and engaging had shared some deeply beautiful thoughts and sincerely expressed how nice it would be if 'we' could be OPEN and REAL with each other.

I felt 'BAD' because I realized how 'impossible' that situation is for me now - especially as she had seen over the years and the extent by which I really had poured my life out.

So I had to say -- 'I can't do it anymore and felt terrible for turning someone down. Turning a person down goes so deeply against everything I've pretty much always been'.

So -- she misunderstood - and misunderstandings are almost impossible to avoid even between 2 people trying to communicate well. Misunderstandings are all the more impossible to avoid when someone 'outside' of the situation gets involved.

:embarrest:????????

Norm, you know you're always WELCOME
 
The reading volume is increasing on you thread.

I feel kind of weird when people tell me that.

I'm not here for a popularity contest. I'm simply here to be REAL and to be OPEN and allow my LIFE to flow as freely as possible because I've never had the chance to be this OPEN before. That's the greatest beauty of this SITE and I don't see it as 'Offensive Drama' --

I see it as the most amazing Beauty we can find in one another. I see it as immensely 'Healing' - 'Beneficial' - 'Wonderful'.

Being too 'Popular' is a dangerous thing and I hope it doesn't work against me.

The good things about a good divorce between parties.

1. A few years after the divorce you can become more like a brother and sister relationship. This happens especially if you had gotten married at a young age and grew apart.

You're such a beautiful person. Our LOVE and RESPECT seem to be growing through this decision and it's quite amazing how deeply we do care for each other. FRIENDSHIP appears to be taking on dimensions we hadn't had before. NOW it's like were seeing each other for who and what we are -- and not as 'spouce'.

2. The kids can end up with four parents that care about and support them.

The kids can KNOW the tension no longer exists and both of us honestly have the freedom to make out of LIFE what is best for each.

The most important aspect for them is knowing both of US love them and adore them and are thoroughly comitted to keeping the bonds with them are Sacred and FULL as ever.

3. The ex can drop off the grandkids as she visits her relatives that live near you.

We both need to give each other 'Space' and how our children and grandchildren interact with each of us is more between them and us.

Here I want to stress that my continued relationship with her parents and family -- and her continued relationship with my parents and family -- is something each of us needs to largely do independently.

4. You an they have a place to stay if traveling cross country.

Perhaps - I would never put my wife (ex) in an awkward situation and I all the more would never want her to feel under any obliation. I want her to 'Feel' and 'Know' that HOME is 'Hers'.

Now the bad things about a good divorce, specialy this may happen to the man if its too soon afterwards.

1. The new woman can never say " I saved him from that b----, she took every thing from him, he needs me and he needs my help".

She 'saved' me from a life that lacked in numerous ways and brought me a HOPE and PROMISE beyond what I ever dreamed was possible.

My devotion and generousity to my wife (ex) makes her respond all the more with the loving and thoughtful nature that makes her who and what she is.

I do 'NEED' her help and I believe she equally 'needs' mine.

2. " His ex is nice, what did he do wrong?"

We simply have irreconcilable differences - it's NOT that she did wrong or that I did 'wrong' - we did the best we could.

3. " Am I the other woman, was I the one that caused this?"

There is 'no way' -- she is like the greatest 'Miracle' I could ever imagine.

4. " What does his kids think of me.

She most certainly wonders this -- gosh.

So Steady my friend with this short switch over, you have to convince both women and the kids that the divorce was mutualy agreed to and that the relationship was done long before this came about and Blue needs to be a strong, loving, and understanding woman which evidently your soon to be EX is.

Food for thought and good wishes or luck as you may need them both.;)

Thank You !!! From the bottom of my heart -- especially if my kids did not know this and we had not planned everything out as we have and as we are doing now.

well I have a few waiting on me .... gotta run
 
The reason why I have made known my life and thoughts flow so freely to everyone - ... We throw it out to eveyone and hope for the best.

I did it - and it came to my mind to do it in a setting like this

I could be 'BETTER' and more free.

-- I was meant to enjoy.

the more all will come to see the 'Beauty that most defines me'.

I am willing to be myself -

I honestly believe the examples I have set over the years have been outstanding.

I am unique

Um...yeah!
 
I'd like to make a public apology to you, Steady. We had a mutual misunderstanding and I said some unkind words. I know you have forgiven me already but since my unkind words were done in a public setting, it's only right that I apologize to you in public. Hope your friends can forgive me as well.
 
I forgive you..
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So much "drama" on this thread.

The 'Drama' on this thread is entirely based on anyone who makes a point of challenging me.

Think about it Fab1 -- If I am simply out to be REAL and OPEN with everyone - then there is no 'Drama'.

The 'Drama' is created by those who somehow want to threaten my character -- to make others believe this or that ....

and thus force me to make the TRUTH known.

You know what really escapes me is...

What really escapes you is ... that any man could be this OPEN and make everything known to such an extent ...

..and yet you find I most certainly do everything I can to LOVE everyone - to RESPECT them - to Accept them - to offer them kindess and understanding.

That 'really escapes' most people.

Why publish your private life (and thoughts) for all to see on this MB??

So ALL can Know beyond the shadow of any doubt that I for REAL and everything about me is as genuine as you can get.

I am very deeply honored to show to everyone -- we can be REAL and OPEN -- and only in this manner can we ultimately give our lives to each other in the ways that are most deeply beneficial.

This I would never, ever do, nor would it come into my mind.

Then Squalebear would have been left to die - and had no hope.

Birch would never have known my willingness to be there for him; even at the cost of putting him before spending time with my daughter returning from Korea.

Lady would never have had anyone give himself over for her.

There are many people on the MB that have benefited from my openness and all the more my genuine desire to extend my life and whatever I have to offer.

I guard my private affairs (not that I am having one).:D

I despise the Secret Lifestyles that dominates how others live and all the more how they link together to 'gossip' and 'destroy others'.

Just the responses on this thread and SG's trip, prove that is the wise thing to do.

Then you refuse to see the Sacred Beauty and all the good and wonderful things that have happened in both Threads.

That Proof is something no one could question or deny.

IMO you didnt use discretion or wisdom.

The 'Discretion' is to make everything known -- so all can see and know as much as I can make known.

The WISDOM is knowing where my Heart and LIFE are and the very huge Honor I have in 'challenges' like this.

You could have achieved your goal for happiness without involving the whole freaking board. You could have shared with certain posters with the Private Message - that is what its for.

So you are most bothered by the lengths by which I have made everything open to everyone ---

Yet how could I possibly know - WHO would give the best advise, who would most deeply understand, who would be most beneficial if I choose to secrety pick one or two??

So for this I am disappointed in you. :mad:

That My two pennies.

It sounds like you are most centrally comparing your life to mine and are bothered -- by the difference.

I would encourage you to be as OPEN and REAL with everyone and go as Deep as you can with whoever responds.
 
Oh. Wow. And that worked out really well for all concerned, didn't it. <sour face>

Just forget about that. Get a picture of your latest fiancee. And have a cookie. LOL

Maggie

It worked out for any - and all - who honestly saw the depth and sincerity of love and devotion in all that was expressed.

It all the more worked out for all when you consider the extent by which a Blue White Diamond who openly strives to 'shine for all' - how beautiful the end results really are.

You are anything but Maggie - and if you were anything like her then you would BLAZE even more beautiful and brighter.

I would say if you look over everything -- those who have most openly despised me and done things to attack me, degrade me, and ruin my character are the very ones who:

When things in their LIFE were the very worst and they feared their life was coming to an end -- Sought me out to offer the most wonderful 'Friendship' I could ever hope to find. Stressed how deeply 'Special' I am - and let me know that I understood them in a way that few ever could. Wanted me to promise I would use my Life carefully and to preserve the Sacred Beauty and make it even better.

I will NEVER forget what you did for me - and you alone have the most Sacred Gift immaginable. I know who and what I am and that little 'fiancee' will make me shine a thousand times brighter than ever before.

Cookie :( - I am out to run as many miles as I can and do as many sit ups and avoid the delicious foods until I'm at least 20 lbs lighter.

Anyway I'm honestly striving to remember the 'beautiful things' and I'm sorry Lady -- that was a very terrible ordeal. I was simply reflecting on my heart and life and the depth by which I tried to do something 'Good and Beautiful'.

Thanks for the visit
 
I'd like to make a public apology to you, Steady. We had a mutual misunderstanding and I said some unkind words. I know you have forgiven me already but since my unkind words were done in a public setting, it's only right that I apologize to you in public. Hope your friends can forgive me as well.

I'm saving the most 'Beautiful and Wonderful' for last.

This just goes to show how great and true a FRIEND you really are.

I apologize too -- gosh I am the one most at fault and in fact I was told to not talk as an alien (from another planet) :rolleyes::suspicious: - and that my expressions were so distorted and crazy that anyone would be upset. :o

Anyway all is 'good' and in the end -- nothing can stop a real friendship from being REAL and Good and everything.

Thank You !!
 
Just forget about that.

Lady,
You don't forget the most meaningful event that ever happened and especially an event that wholly changed every aspect of your life and every interaction you had with others as a result of that event.

You are the one that seems so clueless - and refuses to allow the recognition you so deeply deserve. How can you not know that you are above every GEM and even the rare Blue White Diamond does not compare to you.

You are meant to be the WATER that spurs the Gems to grow to even greater heights - and blaze with even greater intensity.

You are meant to be like a Conductor leading a Symphony and even the master violinist is nothing without your direction. You alone can tell why one is Dark in sorrow and pain and all the more why that same Gem has been transformed to something totally different -- now blazing like something similar to an Opal.

If you want to honor Maggie - the best way you could possibly do that is by allowing XL-entLady to live again. That is the REAL YOU and she is the one that OPENLY made known to everyone a 'Character' that everyone grew to love and admire. She touches people in the most wonderful way and had the deepest and endless respect of thousands.

You are the only one that can keep her hidden and not allow her to dominate your existence and all the ways you interact. If 'she' is dead or burried it is because YOU refuse to bring her to life.

Look at my life Lady. Am I letting anyone on this MB kill me? NO - because I am thrilled to shine and I am totally overjoyed with being who and what I am -- in a humble way -- and in a way that points to something far greater.

They can shut me down -- and many have taken their opportunity to tear me down and cut against the beauty I strive to make known. But look how I respond LADY - and know that I will blaze all the greater.

If there is anyone called to do that -- no one could have a greater calling than you --- but yet you keep her hidden and refuse to make her known and let us marvel in her glory. Sweet woman it is YOU who keeps her hidden - who refuses to allow her to be and remain.

Birch was right - she was the greatest of all.
 
Buster my friend,
There were a few moments where I would have wanted to see her picture totally for the purpose of making sure she is actually REAL.

I have never heard her voice either - and in fact for a good while I never even wanted to hear her voice until we had our own place.

Her looks make absolutely no difference -- and nor does her voice expect that I will most certainly come to view her as the most beautiful woman to ever live and her voice will forever be my favorite.

For an aged and seasoned man like me - her picture would do nothing more that confirm she's real BUT I know she's real and so I don't need to see a picture.

I'll share my view of LIFE and how I believe everything was meant to be and everything all of us could ever strive for should be wholly devoted to this. Their is a 'Child' in everyone of us that is dying to come to LIFE and have that LIFE dominate our existence. It is the BOY/GIRL - innocent and pure and longing for everything.

Blue and I - naturally and wonderfully bring this to LIFE and we do it in a way that I believe has to be incredibly unique to our chemistry and wiring. So in all the aspects of LIFE and all we have longed to know and enjoy -
our Connections have been so thorough and wonderful that we've been able to discover one another way beyond what probably would have happened in the distractions of being physically together. We are both convinced this has been for the best because it has forced us to deal with many aspects of our lives - we may have otherwise not dealt with.

NOW - it's a million times better - seriously - now it's at least a million times better because when I do see her for the FIRST TIME -- gosh -- it will be the greatest event ever because I could NOT regard her more deeply and wonderfully than I do. Same with heaing her voice. So we have saved all those things until the DAY - We can be Together - a DAY when we have our own place and NO ONE Else is in my life.

From HER -- I found the BOY/GIRL bring an even deeper aspect of LIFE into being and that is the BABY. Beyond the BABY is something even greater and more wonderful and that is the CORE.

So our lives are totally devoted to bringing the BOY/GIRL to LIFE day and night so that the BABY and the CORE will spring to LIFE even more. In our private lives we will be like little kids -- and in public everyone will see how immensely our LOVE and LIFE flows out from one another.

So at this point we would 'RUIN' what is meant to be one of our highest and most cherished moments by not waiting to see and hear each other in real life. NOW - it is like the Ultimate Reward because when I do see my Little Kitten I can be overjoyed and say, 'Aren't you the cutest little thing that's ever been born' and dote on her and pamper her and take her home ~~ so I long for that moment and at long last it is very near.
Then this fits....Good luck always..


 
Lady,
You don't forget the most meaningful event that ever happened and especially an event that wholly changed every aspect of your life and every interaction you had with others as a result of that event.

You are the one that seems so clueless - and refuses to allow the recognition you so deeply deserve. How can you not know that you are above every GEM and even the rare Blue White Diamond does not compare to you.

You are meant to be the WATER that spurs the Gems to grow to even greater heights - and blaze with even greater intensity.

You are meant to be like a Conductor leading a Symphony and even the master violinist is nothing without your direction. You alone can tell why one is Dark in sorrow and pain and all the more why that same Gem has been transformed to something totally different -- now blazing like something similar to an Opal.

If you want to honor Maggie - the best way you could possibly do that is by allowing XL-entLady to live again. That is the REAL YOU and she is the one that OPENLY made known to everyone a 'Character' that everyone grew to love and admire. She touches people in the most wonderful way and had the deepest and endless respect of thousands.

You are the only one that can keep her hidden and not allow her to dominate your existence and all the ways you interact. If 'she' is dead or burried it is because YOU refuse to bring her to life.

Look at my life Lady. Am I letting anyone on this MB kill me? NO - because I am thrilled to shine and I am totally overjoyed with being who and what I am -- in a humble way -- and in a way that points to something far greater.

They can shut me down -- and many have taken their opportunity to tear me down and cut against the beauty I strive to make known. But look how I respond LADY - and know that I will blaze all the greater.

If there is anyone called to do that -- no one could have a greater calling than you --- but yet you keep her hidden and refuse to make her known and let us marvel in her glory. Sweet woman it is YOU who keeps her hidden - who refuses to allow her to be and remain.

Birch was right - she was the greatest of all.

So I was up for hours thinking about whether I was just going to let this go or not, getting the email opinions of people whom I respect, and I just can't walk away from this one. Because I am me. XL-entLady and Steel_Magnolia and FlippedOutFERS and Morgana and River were or are Ann. If some of their personalities were different, it is because my life was different at those times. There have been some game-changers in my life the last year or two, as you well know.

You also know that when we were talking, using the analogies of people being gems, that I told you that you are like a diamond in many ways and one of the ways is that you have an occlusion, a flaw. You have to see the facts your way, put your spin on things, rewrite history to fit your perspective.

We've heard your version of reality over and over, ad nauseum.

Some think about a version of a life where every woman becomes a sexual object, where people are made uncomfortable by the innuendo they are reading in a story meant to honor a daughter. A version where someone tries to be your friend from her first week on the MB, and you keep introducing images like "kisses where my tongue touches your cheek, just a flick to find the taste of you" and "imagine yourself naked and surrounded by bubbles and the bubbles begin to caress....." And I'll stop there because you and I aren't the only ones reading this. I kept telling you that friends didn't act like that and that you'd better cut it out. And you'd be good for a couple of messages and then it would start in again.

And because I got messages from several different women, some of whom no longer participate in the MB, I knew that I was not the only one made uncomfortable by your imaginative writing.

That drama played out, sometimes publicly, because you could be a good friend if you would quit objectifying women. Oops, had to strike a sentence there, because even though it was truth and even though you called me out, others reading this would be made uncomfortable by that truth.

Those are the facts. The things I know beyond doubt. The things I wonder about are what drives a man to seek out multiple "fiancees" on the internet, when he has a wife and children at home. A home situation that, by his own words, everyone else thinks is perfect. Who puts the family through that charade of caring and then announced one day that you are leaving. To be a one-man mental health clinic. Because you are so good at radiating mental health.

Ah, I approach the line again.

So I will just say that Lady is me. A kinder, gentler me who had not yet seen the ugliness and whole-body searing pain that is near-death. Who had not yet made a major mistake, one of the worst in my long life, by reaching through a drug and bacteria addled brain to try to find a way to stay in contact with friends I cared about without embarrassing other friends I cared about. Who made the wrong decision. I was wrong, but I survived. And gentle, soft Lady became the Magnolia who has earned the Steel in her name.

Do I miss Lady? I miss her every day. I miss the respect and friendship that others showed her. I miss being the person whose friends dropped by her Account Talk to just chat and stayed to talk about whatever was on their minds. Now that was Thread Drift! <smile>

But I'm not here enough to make people feel welcome. I hurry in, share some home-baked cookies, then leave again to go to this therapy or that specialist or to my bed because the weather is changing and my body has become the world's best barometer.

Do I still see people's characteristics and equate them to gems? Oh yes. I open the MB and it is a treasure chest. But life has changed, it's hard to get to know each gem now, and you know the reason why.
 
Came back to see your reply. Im not quoting anymore its too lenghty and time consuming.

Let me just say if you truly believe that I am holding back some inner desire to emulate you Steady you must be deeper in denial then I thought.

You just prove over and over again everything is about you. You are the sterling example for us all? Come back down to earth.
 
So I was up for hours thinking about whether I was just going to let this go or not,

Lady,
Why would my immense respect for YOU and the ways I acknowledge you be so troubling. My message to you was a declaration of the Sacred Beauty you have -- and that you can freely make known.

getting the email opinions of people whom I respect, and I just can't walk away from this one.

I'm going to guess you're talking about the Picture Maker and the Puppet Master that pulls his strings. SHE is the one that 'declared you DEAD' and I had no idea she based this on anything I had to say.

He was outraged that you broke your promise. There was NO thought for you (or your family) but only the lier who failed to deliver.

It was in my Defense of YOU - and making it clear that even if you did die YOU are most certainly the kind of woman that would fulfill her promises and that I knew you would go straight to his Mother and made everything RIGHT.

So dear - precious Ann - I am NOT rewriting history

You have to see the facts your way, put your spin on things, rewrite history to fit your perspective.

I'm sorry you feel that way Ann and I wish like anything that all the hidden exchanges of PMs and emails related to YOU specifically ...

...especially in how they were connected to your Sickness and what was feared 'Your Death' .... that YOU could see for yourself everything that was expressed and all the more WHO alone declared you Dead.

Who is the one everything was centered on in those exchanges??

Was it YOU? NO - why would that be a concern?

It was him - Because YOU failed to fulfill a promise to him.

If everyone -- especially YOU -- could honestly see all the FACTS then it would be impossible to treat me the way you did. All the more it would be impossible for you to hold them in such high regard.

You 'respect' their opinions because they did everything possible to make me the Scapegoat - to bear everything BAD - to take all the heat away from them.

Why can't you think for yourself ?

Why do you refuse to see and acknowledge everything I expressed to you when I thought you might be dying ?

How can you possibly miss the extent by which I NOT only loved you and cared for you -- but all the more my willingness to do whatever I could possibly do on your behalf ?

NOW - you're saying you can't walk away from this because of what others are telling you.

You respect them ????? I guess that 'respect' forces you to see me in the worst possible way.
 
I told you that you are like a diamond - but there was a flaw.

You also stressed that I am the Blue White Diamond -- one of the Rarest and most 'Special'.

That I was the brightest and the one who was most central in my life - that she and I were the brightest GEMs on the entire MB.

That throughout all your years -- you'd only had the opportunity to find 4 Blue White Diamonds and it was YOU who totally made me believe and know through and through how 'Precious and Unique' I am.

I knew the FLAW was there Lady and that has been the overwhelming basis of why I have longed over and over to find her; The ONE who would totally make my life complete.

And you'd be good for a couple of messages and then it would start in again.

I totally agree that my 'Boundaries' were horribly lacking - if not essentially absent.

I hope with all my heart that these 'Boundaries' are clear to you now. I have stressed over and over that BLUE is 'The ONE' and my LIFE is filled with nothing but the greatest Hope and Promise. She has proven herself in so many ways -- over and over -- that there is NOT even the slightest crack -- the smallest opening for anyone else.

She is IT -- entirely - completely -- and I am finally finding the LIFE and all I have longed to know.

So Lady -- I totally agree with you. I was a mess and I refused to stop believing -- to stop having the deepest HOPE that someday she would make herself known.

BUT - SHE HAS. And now everything is Different.

I've got to run dear friend -- but thank you for all you've expressed
 
The things I wonder about are what drives a man to seek out multiple 'fiancees'; on the internet, when he has a wife and children at home.

Oh Lady,
Gosh - talk about trying twist things to fit the perspective you have choosen to believe.

Listen little princess - I did NOT come to this Site seeking out multiple 'fiancees' :sick::suspicious:. I came to this sight with the exact same motivation as Uptrend -- and that was to 'Show Off' my investment skills.

But PRIDE preceeds the FALL

So the timing of my arrival could not have been worse.

The MARKETS were crumbling and the days of 'unlimited trades' were coming to an end.

So my FRIEND -- I did NOT seek out anything like 'a wife to be' to replace my present wife.

NO - NO - NO

What I did was totally make my life known to everyone across the board and I went over the details of my childhood and tried to make everything known -- simply because I felt this was the kind of place to let that happen -- to totally make everything known to everyone and be willing to see what happens.

SOOO - I was NOT SEEKING OUT a woman to replace my wife. Or a variety of women to replace her.

Not at all - you little skunk

BUT Maggie responded in a way that touched so many Sacred and Beautifull aspects of my existence.

A home situation that, by his own words, everyone else thinks is perfect.

WE (both of US) strove to make it as 'Perfect' as we could - mostly for the sakes of our Children because we brought them into the world and they were (and are) in every sense 'OUR RESPONSIBILITY'.

I have stressed over and over how outstanding my wife is (and was) in numerous ways. SO for me - the BEST THING to do for everyone's sake is FOCUS on the GOOD ...

and strive to ignore the Emptiness and Pain

So YES -- We strove to make things as Perfect as we could.
YES - Ann, I had everyone in my family and her family and in the community at large totally convinced that my LIFE was 'Full and Happy'

BECAUSE THAT WAS BY FAR THE MOST IMPORTANT AND UNDERLYING FOUNDATION I COULD PROVIDE FOR MY CHILDREN.

Lady, thank you so much for bringing this interchange.
 
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