This reminds me of the time gold was around 800 an oz...before 400, then 500 etc....they said it was going to 2000 per oz maybe....and then if fell...fell back to about 500. I guess I don't see it! Yes the S&P is going up; but where's the 'beef'. Truly it would be nice....but it's too soon in my opinion. Sure it will but it's got some downs as well first. Still in G 100%.
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Pschiffdicpal
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Gold info
Gold is being manipulated, the IMF is selling a bunch to help poor country cope with the down turn, once this finishes and other force come to a head such as china and other countries dump the dollar will see the true price of gold and other metals.
check link http://www.gata.org/
About GATA
The Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee was organized in January 1999 to advocate and undertake litigation against illegal collusion to control the price and supply of gold and related financial securities. The committee arose from essays by Bill Murphy, a financial commentator, and by Chris Powell, a newspaper editor in Connecticut, published at Murphy's Internet site, www.lemetropolecafe.com.
Murphy's essays reported evidence of collusion among financial institutions to suppress the price of gold. Powell, whose newspaper had been involved in antitrust litigation, replied with an essay proposing that gold mining and investor interests should act on Murphy's essays by bringing suit against the financial institutions involved in the collusion against gold.
The response to these essays was so favorable that the committee was formed and formally incorporated in Delaware. Murphy became chairman and Powell secretary/treasurer.
GATA underwrote the federal anti-trust lawsuit of its consultant, Reginald H. Howe -- Howe vs. Bank for International Settlements et al. -- which was pursued in U.S. District Court in Boston from 2000 to 2002. While the Howe suit was dismissed on a jurisdictional technicality, it became the model for Blanchard Coin and Bullion's anti-trust lawsuit against Barrick Gold and J.P. Morgan Chase & Co., which was filed in U.S. District Court in New Orleans in 2002 and prompted Barrick Gold's decision to stop selling gold in advance for 10 years.
GATA continues to expose and oppose collusion against a free market in gold, other precious metals, currencies, and related securities.
GATA is recognized by the U.S. Internal Revenue Service as a tax-exempt educational and civil rights organization and it welcomes financial contributions.
Gold is being manipulated, the IMF is selling a bunch to help poor country cope with the down turn, once this finishes and other force come to a head such as china and other countries dump the dollar will see the true price of gold and other metals.
check link http://www.gata.org/
About GATA
The Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee was organized in January 1999 to advocate and undertake litigation against illegal collusion to control the price and supply of gold and related financial securities. The committee arose from essays by Bill Murphy, a financial commentator, and by Chris Powell, a newspaper editor in Connecticut, published at Murphy's Internet site, www.lemetropolecafe.com.
Murphy's essays reported evidence of collusion among financial institutions to suppress the price of gold. Powell, whose newspaper had been involved in antitrust litigation, replied with an essay proposing that gold mining and investor interests should act on Murphy's essays by bringing suit against the financial institutions involved in the collusion against gold.
The response to these essays was so favorable that the committee was formed and formally incorporated in Delaware. Murphy became chairman and Powell secretary/treasurer.
GATA underwrote the federal anti-trust lawsuit of its consultant, Reginald H. Howe -- Howe vs. Bank for International Settlements et al. -- which was pursued in U.S. District Court in Boston from 2000 to 2002. While the Howe suit was dismissed on a jurisdictional technicality, it became the model for Blanchard Coin and Bullion's anti-trust lawsuit against Barrick Gold and J.P. Morgan Chase & Co., which was filed in U.S. District Court in New Orleans in 2002 and prompted Barrick Gold's decision to stop selling gold in advance for 10 years.
GATA continues to expose and oppose collusion against a free market in gold, other precious metals, currencies, and related securities.
GATA is recognized by the U.S. Internal Revenue Service as a tax-exempt educational and civil rights organization and it welcomes financial contributions.
Expected Rate of Return from the (G) Fund at 2.875%
Monday = 0.0031 tsp cents
Tuesday = 0.0010 tsp cents
Wednesday = 0.0010 tsp cents
Thursday = 0.0010 tsp cents
Friday = 0.0010 tsp cents
Any day that see's a +0.0009 will probably be made up for by making
a following day at +0.0011 tsp cents. (and Vice-a-Versa).
Monday = 0.0031 tsp cents
Tuesday = 0.0010 tsp cents
Wednesday = 0.0010 tsp cents
Thursday = 0.0010 tsp cents
Friday = 0.0010 tsp cents
Any day that see's a +0.0009 will probably be made up for by making
a following day at +0.0011 tsp cents. (and Vice-a-Versa).
Pschiffdicpal
Member
I like to watch gold’s price moves for valuation of our markets and foren markets (oz cost divided by s&p, dow, nasdac price dow is around 9 oz of gold per share, s&p a little less the a full OZ) Question, how much gold, and for that matter any other metal of value are being bought and in what quintiles, China and Asia are buying are debt, and a lot of gold and metal too. Yan today, world currency tomorrow.
Pschiffdicpal
Member
I wish TSP G WAS GOLDEN SOMETHING REAL its a dog s*it return, inflation will make it better just like it did in the late 80s early nintes. over 7 percent then.
ADP Employment Report
Why Investor's Care
Market players have become accustomed to the excitement on employment Friday and realize the rich detail of the monthly employment situation can help set the tone for the entire month. While economists have certainly improved their nonfarm payroll forecasts over the years, it is not unusual to see surprises on employment Friday. To that end, the new ADP national employment report can help improve the payroll forecast by providing information in advance of the employment report.
The employment statistics also provide insight on wage trends, and wage inflation is high on the list of enemies for the Federal Reserve. Fed officials constantly monitor this data watching for even the smallest signs of potential inflationary pressures, even when economic conditions are soggy. If inflation is under control, it is easier for the Fed to maintain a more accommodative monetary policy. If inflation is a problem, the Fed is limited in providing economic stimulus. Initially, the ADP national employment report will not have wage information, but their goal is provide wage information, along with industry and regional information as well.
Nonetheless, by tracking jobs, investors can sense the degree of tightness in the job market. If wage inflation threatens, it's a good bet that interest rates will rise; bond and stock prices will fall. No doubt that the only investors in a good mood will be the ones who watched the employment report and adjusted their portfolios to anticipate these events. In contrast, when job growth is slow or negative, then interest rates are likely to decline - boosting up bond and stock prices in the process.
http://bloomberg.econoday.com/byshoweventfull.asp?fid=438400&cust=bloomberg&wiconly=1#top
Why Investor's Care
Market players have become accustomed to the excitement on employment Friday and realize the rich detail of the monthly employment situation can help set the tone for the entire month. While economists have certainly improved their nonfarm payroll forecasts over the years, it is not unusual to see surprises on employment Friday. To that end, the new ADP national employment report can help improve the payroll forecast by providing information in advance of the employment report.
The employment statistics also provide insight on wage trends, and wage inflation is high on the list of enemies for the Federal Reserve. Fed officials constantly monitor this data watching for even the smallest signs of potential inflationary pressures, even when economic conditions are soggy. If inflation is under control, it is easier for the Fed to maintain a more accommodative monetary policy. If inflation is a problem, the Fed is limited in providing economic stimulus. Initially, the ADP national employment report will not have wage information, but their goal is provide wage information, along with industry and regional information as well.
Nonetheless, by tracking jobs, investors can sense the degree of tightness in the job market. If wage inflation threatens, it's a good bet that interest rates will rise; bond and stock prices will fall. No doubt that the only investors in a good mood will be the ones who watched the employment report and adjusted their portfolios to anticipate these events. In contrast, when job growth is slow or negative, then interest rates are likely to decline - boosting up bond and stock prices in the process.
http://bloomberg.econoday.com/byshoweventfull.asp?fid=438400&cust=bloomberg&wiconly=1#top
Good Toilet Paper ! :toung:
I agree, the (G) Fund is nothing more then a safe place to hide. A Parking
(G)arage if you will. It certainly would be nice to have more vehicles at
our disposal. Heck, for anyone just starting out in Gov't, REITS could be
the best long term investment from here. Then again, I'm not to fond of
of them, being so close to the end of my journey. Bottom Line: More
Investment Vehicles within the TSP are well overdue. But not too many.
ADP came out with a "UNBELIEVABLE" number (around -491k) and the
market expected -675k. The media is once again questioning the figures
that the ADP comes out with. The "Stress Test" has taken over the main
stream media on both the Internet and TV.
When things look better, hype turns negative. When things look bad, hype
turns into the search for "Better Then Expected" results. Its best to ignore
the BS and stay focused on the Real World (not a MTV reference). I'm seeing
this puppy losing strength and taking a break to the downside. But not if
we keep getting better then expected Economic News and Earnings.
market expected -675k. The media is once again questioning the figures
that the ADP comes out with. The "Stress Test" has taken over the main
stream media on both the Internet and TV.
When things look better, hype turns negative. When things look bad, hype
turns into the search for "Better Then Expected" results. Its best to ignore
the BS and stay focused on the Real World (not a MTV reference). I'm seeing
this puppy losing strength and taking a break to the downside. But not if
we keep getting better then expected Economic News and Earnings.
Gumby
Active member
ADP came out with a "UNBELIEVABLE" number (around -491k) and the
market expected -675k.
Can you hear the "revision" coming next month? More government hype. Obama media and Obama markets.:nuts:
ADP has always been in question when numbers are compared to the
Employment figures coming out of the Labor Dept. Even during the Bush
era. It's the Labor Dept's revision we need to watch as it could truely
move the market "big time" in either direction.
JTH
Well-known member
Well we always like to say small caps lead the way...
At the moment we seem to be working our way back up after the inital opening drop.
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ADP came out with a "UNBELIEVABLE" number (around -491k) and the
market expected -675k. The media is once again questioning the figures
that the ADP comes out with. The "Stress Test" has taken over the main
stream media on both the Internet and TV.
When things look better, hype turns negative. When things look bad, hype
turns into the search for "Better Then Expected" results. Its best to ignore
the BS and stay focused on the Real World (not a MTV reference). I'm seeing
this puppy losing strength and taking a break to the downside. But not if
we keep getting better then expected Economic News and Earnings.
I wonder if that -491K includes my wife. She got laid off April 24th.
KevinD
Well-known member
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