Playing the I fund

[nnuut]

Just trying to learn Techy. I though that there are mainly two considerations when Barkays figures FV. One being the Dollar index the other what happens to the US Markets after the close of the Overseas Markets. I know that the dollar value of MSCI results must be taken into consideration, or something. Then if the USA Markets rallys or crashs after the overseas markets close the FV is caculated based on the amount of this rise or fall compared on the Overseas markets close. Of course if the dollar is up or down that comes into play also. Just looking at today with the dollar flat to a small gain and US Markets all in the red and the Overseas Markets in the same condition a small Fv to the lower side would appear to be appropriate. Am I thinking right? Oh do you calculate that the "I" is up about 4 cents today based on the EFA, MSCI or what?? Hummmmmmm?

 

[sugarandspice]

..........with a +FV of 9 cents....

Are you are referring to the giveback from yesterday?

 

[weatherweenie]

Can't seem to get a quote for 11/2 on EAFE. Maybe they wised up and are preventing people from getting a quote by manually changing the date?

 

[Wheels]

I thought that there are mainly two considerations when Barkays figures FV. One being the Dollar index the other what happens to the US Markets after the close of the Overseas Markets.

Only the dollar's movements after the OSM are closed would be considered. Any dollar movement prior to that wouild already be accounted for in the EAFE.

 

[nnuut]

Thanks Dave, yes only data that changes after OSM close. Just wondering how these predictions are calculated.

 

[sugarandspice]

I dont see anything that will cause another FV today so they will probably correct the one they applied yesterday by adding 9 or 10 cents to todays price.

And by the way Tech, it is not an FV when they correct what they have done. I think you referred to it has one earlier with your +.09 FV prediction of the I fund.

Referring to it has an FV is not helping people. That's what your about right Tech, helping people.

 

[The_Technician]

Are you are referring to the giveback from yesterday?

Yes yes yes....guess it couldn't be called an FV if the corrrection was yesterday....is there an official title for the giveback????

 

[ATCJeff]

Are you are referring to the giveback from yesterday?

I thought yesterday -FV was 10 cents?

I see yesterdays FV being "evened" out tonight. But no + FV today.

 

[ATCJeff]

Yes yes yes....guess it couldn't be called an FV if the corrrection was yesterday....is there an official title for the giveback????

How bout' we all use the term reversal fair valuation or RFV?

 

[nnuut]

I thought it was UV = Unfair Value
And why do we think because they took it away yesterday they will give it back today? What determines that? To me they would wait until the numbers reveal that compensation in the positive direction is necessary. Just what made today one of those days?

 

[Birchtree]

Messing with FV is like peein in the wind - you never know which way it will go. And as long as it's not on me I don't care.

 

[sugarandspice]

G--
F-.01
C--
S-.04
I+.03

EAFE says -.372% which would equal -.07 cents and with yesterdays correction +.10 cents that equals todays 3 cent gain. The I fund is all even.

 

[mlk_man]

I believe the G fund to pay today.....

Like I said, waste of space........

 

[mlk_man]

Unfortunate for those caught in the -FV trap......

Of course the +FV will come right away to dampen out the I fund drop that is forthcoming.....

Go to G......and mm, stop driving while drunk.....hey stop investing while drunk too!!!!

How did I miss this post?

Less than 2 months left. Do something..............

 

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[mlk_man]

believe the G fund to pay today.....

Are you going to berate yourself for being wrong now? Fair's fair.............

BTW, good luck in that F fund today. :nuts:

 

[FUTURESTRADER]

Are you going to berate yourself for being wrong now? Fair's fair.............

BTW, good luck in that F fund today. :nuts:

lol...time to trade in those crystal balls for some decent charts, techy

 

[Pilgrim]

We've had a great deal of talk about how U.S stocks will react to the election. What about Europe and Asia and what about currency? Anyone got a feel for a playable move for the I fund, some nice, reasonably predictable knee-jerk reaction that we could exploit?

 

[ATCJeff]

Thinking the I will finish up today. However, gains today could have been higher had he dollar not shot up.

http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/

http://quotes.ino.com/chart/?s=NYBOT_DX

 

[Pilgrim]

I'm totally confused about the current FV situation: are we all "even" with Barclays or is there something yet to be done? Wasn't there a Bible verse about this?

Barclay's taketh and Barclay's giveth away. Blessed be the name of Barclays.