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Well, how about that, the old password still works! NSurf9, Wednesday's FV baggage of -0.70% was added to Thursday's MSCI EAFE of +1.37% (for a gain of +0.67%). A small price adjustment of +0.01% also made it to the I-fund's final price (+0.68%). Today, the I-fund is all squared up. I keep up with the daily FVs, so folks don't have to. :D
 
ebbnflow said:
Well, how about that, the old password still works! NSurf9, Wednesday's FV baggage of -0.70% was added to Thursday's MSCI EAFE of +1.37% (for a gain of +0.67%). A small price adjustment of +0.01% also made it to the I-fund's final price (+0.68%). Today, the I-fund is all squared up. I keep up with the daily FVs, so folks don't have to. :D
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Thanks Ebbnflow. Maybe you should use that password a little more often. Do you have a primer for calculating the holdback?

I recall you favor the I fund in your system (higher potential returns?). Is it currently in I? Long term seems to show EAF is noticably making a move up compared to C and S funds. I noted a little pop back in December, but it was tamped down by the EU blather. The DOW has already broken 1300 and the I fund is beginning to feel a little frothy in short term, but some catch-up with US indexes still seems overdue.

I have no more IFTs, except to G, so the delema is go to G; or, stay in I and take some flack and finish the month there. Close call with 11 days left in the month (8 trading days, including today).
 
I have one IFT left, but what sucks is I can't step out to G and then step back in since I will burn the IFT going to G. I wish they would at least give us two IFT's to move into the market and not charge us to move out...

(and yes I know if you have 0 IFT's left you can still move to G for free. I just don't think we should be charged to move to G at all and we should be able to move in, move out, move in, and move out in one month.)
 
MaStA said:
I have one IFT left, but what sucks is I can't step out to G and then step back in since I will burn the IFT going to G. I wish they would at least give us two IFT's to move into the market and not charge us to move out...

(and yes I know if you have 0 IFT's left you can still move to G for free. I just don't think we should be charged to move to G at all and we should be able to move in, move out, move in, and move out in one month.)
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It would be nice if we could bank our unused IFT's. If you do not use your 2 for January then you would have 4 for February and so on. They pretty much expect you to use 12 IFT's a year so it is not like we are paying anything extra.
 
Not many folks sitting this one out. Tough sledding if you're a tracker nut.
Nice job NS9. Very nice.
 
Ok, I multiplied 7.24% by 12 months and WOW! I'm cheering for you! How long do you think the "I fund is good for?
 
Every dog has his (or her) day. This happens to be one for me. Now, if we only had an extra IFT along the way.
 
Rolling total: Love-to-bike, you are #39 "I'm In!"
Careful, no body tell the buy-and-holders (or Birchtree) who don't look at their return they are winning the argument.
 
nsurf9 said:
Thanks Ebbnflow. Maybe you should use that password a little more often. Do you have a primer for calculating the holdback?

I recall you favor the I fund in your system (higher potential returns?). Is it currently in I? Long term seems to show EAF is noticably making a move up compared to C and S funds. I noted a little pop back in December, but it was tamped down by the EU blather. The DOW has already broken 1300 and the I fund is beginning to feel a little frothy in short term, but some catch-up with US indexes still seems overdue.

I have no more IFTs, except to G, so the delema is go to G; or, stay in I and take some flack and finish the month there. Close call with 11 days left in the month (8 trading days, including today).
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When I'm in equities I use 50 S and 50 I. I used to calculate the FV, but the easy way is to just check on the day's MSCI EAFE (I-fund). Go to http://www.msci.com/products/indices/size/standard/performance.html after 2:00 PM ET. Punch in the calendar date and press search. The difference between the day's MSCI EAFE and the I-fund's final result at night should give you the FV. By the way, I'm out of IFTs for the month also and congrats on your top spot on the autotracker. :)
 
ebbnflow said:
The difference between the day's MSCI EAFE and the I-fund's final result at night should give you the FV.
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EbbnFlow, Thanks, simple enough. It been a while since I've played the I fund, but I recall the fair value / hold-back can be significant enough to make it worth while to stay in the I fund an additional day, just to get the pay-back.
 
This seems to be a case of "buy the rumor, sell the news" for me. There still seems to be a little more room, but
now there are too many analyst chiming in on the good news and upward prospects and we're coming into resistence levels on several indexes.
I attempted to move to F, of course it was futile; and I actually made a 50% to G IFT, but switched to 100% G.

I appreciate that there's still a respectible amout of fear out there to still climb higher, but as much as I'd like to squeeze a little more out of the run, I believe I'd be treading on thinner and thinner ice and increase risk. I just wait until Feb 1 and wait for another rumor.

Sorry, I could post earlier - tuff call.
 
nsurf9 said:
This seems to be a case of "buy the rumor, sell the news" for me. There still seems to be a little more room, but
now there are too many analyst chiming in on the good news and upward prospects and we're coming into resistence levels on several indexes.
I attempted to move to F, of course it was futile; and I actually made a 50% to G IFT, but switched to 100% G.

I appreciate that there's still a respectible amout of fear out there to still climb higher, but as much as I'd like to squeeze a little more out of the run, I believe I'd be treading on thinner and thinner ice and increase risk. I just wait until Feb 1 and wait for another rumor.

Sorry, I could post earlier - tuff call.
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But you can't beat 8% plus for just January. Great move.
 
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