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does anyone know where u can track the actual trades of the tsp folks?

are they justmoving shares from sellers to buyers inside of the tsp fold most of thetime??

how often and to what extent do theyactually trade?

tia

tekno
 
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Falling oil prices no help
U.S. light crude for November delivery fell $1.11 to settle at $62.79 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange, having traded on both sides of unchanged all morning.

Prices had briefly ramped up following the release of the weekly oil inventory report, which showed a bigger-than-expected drop in gasoline stocks, overall crude supplies and distillate stocks, which include heating oil.

Treasury prices gained, lowering the yield on the 10-year note to 4.34 percent from 4.37 percent late Tuesday. Treasury prices and yields move in opposite directions.

The dollar fell versus the euro and yen.

COMEX gold ended the session at $469.30 an ounce, unchanged from Tuesday.
 
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Check out the volume for the bond market yesterday. Could this mean a bottom for the F fund??? Or a bail out before another push down? Some say 10 year bond yield will be at 4.5% by end of year.Dollar getting weaker again... Grandma jumping out, could be near bottom.



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Two year view:

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teknobucks wrote:
does anyone know where u can track the actual trades of the tsp folks?

are they justmoving shares from sellers to buyers inside of the tsp fold most of thetime??

how often and to what extent do theyactually trade?

tia

tekno
I asked this question last week and no one answered it. I wonder if they actually buy any shares at all. Do we send them money and they record it in a computer database and then theyspend it (our money)so the deficit is not as high and they(and we) are replying on the future taxpayer will have pay for us to get our money back? :shock::X
 
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Japan's Nikkei stock average fell 0.4%. Britain's FTSE 100 fell 1.2%, Germany's DAX index dropped 1.3%, and France's CAC-40 fell 1.2%.

:s
 
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I read some of your posts this morning and I wondered, did I mention the fact that the last time the market started a long term downer it slip and slid away....???:?

Meaning, there is little to gain in this environment.....this means don't get in the C and S funds....and most likely I.....this slip sliding away is a loss every day for a long while....it did it in 2001.....and its worse economically today....I told you guys long time ago that Sept and Oct don't look good and this thing is starting to unravel sooner than the last date I expected (around Halloween)....:shock:

So what do you think, have I got your attention yet???? Or are you just gonna go for it......well, make up your mind buddy, I ain't got all day!!! (A little Clint Eastwood flavor here :):))

Hey, don't lose your shirts...let me slap you in the face this morning and wake you up from the dream that you think you can get back what you may have just lost....wake up wake up......I said wake up!!!!:shock:

For those touting the market to go up and up and up.....you get a big fat "F" on your report card!!! The market ain't going to rebound for ya.....;)

:dude:
 
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Most of the damage should be done by this Friday's employment report.

Earnings season will start after that, and that will determine where the market goes ... along with some relief in lower oil futures.

I'm not crazy about rollercoasters either, but that is the nature of the beast.
 
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I was looking at some of my data and trying to see if there was something there that could tell me about 10/31/05 time frame.....what it told me with better clarification was that we could be in or around 1130's by 1st Nov.....

Its just an untried clarification, but its what I see coming.....

Protect yourself in unsure environments, that is the smart move....

:^
 
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I believe this sums it all.....

"The market has begun to pay more attention to economic data, now that post-hurricane reports are starting to pour in, said Art Hogan, market analyst at Jefferies & Co.

"Even if the data meet our expectations, we are going to be disappointed," he said.

Investors are looking at the specter of a slowing economy mixed with higher interest rates, higher energy prices and slowing corporate profits, and it's making them nervous, Hogan added. "

See more in this article......

http://money.cnn.com/2005/10/05/markets/markets_newyork/index.htm

In essence, its a poor environment for a good economy....I might add in that comment on the market breath in the above article....when the market sees this ....its a no go for most everyone and then we start a real slide.....no amount of news is going to stop the fear in the market...who wants to be the only one left in a dark room......

:^
 
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Greg wrote:
Japan's Nikkei stock average fell 0.4%. Britain's FTSE 100 fell 1.2%, Germany's DAX index dropped 1.3%, and France's CAC-40 fell 1.2%.

:s
Nikkei ended updown 330 pts, or -2.4% last night. But we know how the I fund works. Some of that was considered in yesterday's I fund quote since it was anticipated after what happened to U.S. stocks.
 
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Listening to the talking heads, look forthe nonfarm payrolls released tomorrow at 8:30am to be a real market mover both for equities and bonds. Looks to be a real flip of a coin on what direction to expect.

Released on 10/7/05 For Sep 2005

Nonfarm Payrolls, M/M change

Consensus-150,000

Consensus Range-80,000 to -300,000


Unemployment Rate, Level

Consensus-5.0%

Consensus Range-4.9% to 5.3%

Average Hourly Earnings, M/M change

Consensus-0.2%

Consensus Range-0.0% to 0.4%
 
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Greg wrote:
teknobucks wrote:
does anyone know where u can track the actual trades of the tsp folks?

are they justmoving shares from sellers to buyers inside of the tsp fold most of thetime??

how often and to what extent do theyactually trade?

tia

tekno
I asked this question last week and no one answered it. I wonder if they actually buy any shares at all. Do we send them money and they record it in a computer database and then theyspend it (our money)so the deficit is not as high and they(and we) are replying on the future taxpayer will have pay for us to get our money back? :shock::X
did not see that post....wonder if they will have a naked short investgation in the future...LOL
 
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The Technician wrote:
I read some of your posts this morning and I wondered, did I mention the fact that the last time the market started a long term downer it slip and slid away....???:?

Meaning, there is little to gain in this environment.....this means don't get in the C and S funds....and most likely I.....this slip sliding away is a loss every day for a long while....it did it in 2001.....and its worse economically today....I told you guys long time ago that Sept and Oct don't look good and this thing is starting to unravel sooner than the last date I expected (around Halloween)....:shock:

So what do you think, have I got your attention yet???? Or are you just gonna go for it......well, make up your mind buddy, I ain't got all day!!! (A little Clint Eastwood flavor here :):))

Hey, don't lose your shirts...let me slap you in the face this morning and wake you up from the dream that you think you can get back what you may have just lost....wake up wake up......I said wake up!!!!:shock:

For those touting the market to go up and up and up.....you get a big fat "F" on your report card!!! The market ain't going to rebound for ya.....;)

:dude:
LMAO......combination of hoping for a bounce and not giving a chit 4 me;)

stock market one big ole casino anyway:P

still believe ag will go out on a bright note!

once this turns look for a rip snorting squeeze rally.

tekno

ps: tech while we are sayingour itold u so's....check out that price of crude;)
 
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I see it....but it's too late on the crude......the damage is done and now psychology will come into play......market is weak and they know it.....and they don't want to be the ones holding the bag while all the goodies are picked out......

I told you so....LMAO Tekno....that's a good one....:l

The current market was bound to happen with the current economics....its was just a matter of time.......:end:

:^
 
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teknobucks wrote:
The Technician wrote:
I read some of your posts this morning and I wondered, did I mention the fact that the last time the market started a long term downer it slip and slid away....???:?

Meaning, there is little to gain in this environment.....this means don't get in the C and S funds....and most likely I.....this slip sliding away is a loss every day for a long while....it did it in 2001.....and its worse economically today....I told you guys long time ago that Sept and Oct don't look good and this thing is starting to unravel sooner than the last date I expected (around Halloween)....:shock:

So what do you think, have I got your attention yet???? Or are you just gonna go for it......well, make up your mind buddy, I ain't got all day!!! (A little Clint Eastwood flavor here :):))

Hey, don't lose your shirts...let me slap you in the face this morning and wake you up from the dream that you think you can get back what you may have just lost....wake up wake up......I said wake up!!!!:shock:

For those touting the market to go up and up and up.....you get a big fat "F" on your report card!!! The market ain't going to rebound for ya.....;)

:dude:
LMAO......combination of hoping for a bounce and not giving a chit 4 me;)

stock market one big ole casino anyway:P

still believe ag will go out on a bright note!

once this turns look for a rip snorting squeeze rally.

tekno

ps: tech while we are sayingour itold u so's....check out that price of crude;)
 
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