Heres14U
Member
Good Morning;
Thank you Lady for your kind words of support, yes simplicity can work wonders.
Intrepid Investor do you have a reason why this system will not work? The goal is not to get in at the exact bottom or get out at the exact top, but to ride the wave up as long as the 20 day moving average is climbing, and to stay out of harm’s way when the 20 day moving average is falling, as it is now.
The last time the 5 day moving average crossed the 20 day moving average to the downside, for the C fund, was on 9/4/08. If you sold the next day you would of sold your shares for $14.2290 on 9/5/08. Since then the 5day moving average has continued down and below the 20 day moving average. Yesterday’s close for the C-fund was $10.4196. That represents a preventable loss of 26.8% that this system would have saved you, and is continuing to save you. Granted there may be a whipsaw here and there especially with this kind of volatility but that’s the chance I’m willing to take. As long as the 20 day moving average is falling and the 5day moving average stays below it, I’ll be sitting in the G fund (in the tracker), unless there is a buy signal in the F-fund. I know sitting in the G-fund isn’t glamorous but at this time it sure gives you a good night’s sleep!
Date Fund Price 5dyma 20dyma Current Status and Recommendation
10/14 C 11.4593 10.99 12.80 5dayma still below 20dayma - Avoid
10/15 C 10.4196 10.79 12.63 5dayma still below 20dayma - Avoid
10/14 S 13.6019 13.14 15.86 5dayma still below 20dayma - Avoid
10/15 S 12.3365 12.87 15.61 5dayma still below 20dayma - Avoid
10/14 I 15.4268 14.79 17.35 5dayma still below 20dayma - Avoid
10/15 I 13.9249 14.46 17.13 5dayma still below 20dayma - Avoid
10/14 F 11.7982 11.96 12.10 5dayma still below 20dayma - Avoid
10/15 F 11.7863 11.89 12.08 5dayma still below 20dayma - Avoid
I’m trying something a little different but very simple. We are only going to deal with daily closing price, and two simple moving averages, a 5 day and a 20 day. The rules are simple, when price then the 5 day moving average move above the 20 day moving average we buy. When price then the 5 day moving average move below the 20 day moving average we sell. How much you buy or sell is up to you depending on your risk tolerance. Keep in mind we are still in a bear market as the 200 day moving averages are still falling for the stock funds. I’ll be using closing prices to compute the moving averages. So here we go and good luck!
I’m remaining in the G-fund for now in the tracker. I have been in the G fund since 9/5/08. My rollover IRA is currently invested in some SDS, SDD, and EFU. I have been selling shares as they move up in value and buying more as they move down in value. They are shorting vehicles which move up in value as the markets tank, and go down in value as the markets go up.
I don’t believe stock prices can have a sustainable rally at this time. I think depression fears as well as downward corporate earnings estimates will limit rallies going forward. I believe the public will be staying out of the markets as well, I’m sure they will be shell shocked when reviewing their future monthly 401K and brokerage account statements! So I will try this simple new system, hopefully it will continue to keep us out of trouble!
Good Luck!
Thank you Lady for your kind words of support, yes simplicity can work wonders.
Intrepid Investor do you have a reason why this system will not work? The goal is not to get in at the exact bottom or get out at the exact top, but to ride the wave up as long as the 20 day moving average is climbing, and to stay out of harm’s way when the 20 day moving average is falling, as it is now.
The last time the 5 day moving average crossed the 20 day moving average to the downside, for the C fund, was on 9/4/08. If you sold the next day you would of sold your shares for $14.2290 on 9/5/08. Since then the 5day moving average has continued down and below the 20 day moving average. Yesterday’s close for the C-fund was $10.4196. That represents a preventable loss of 26.8% that this system would have saved you, and is continuing to save you. Granted there may be a whipsaw here and there especially with this kind of volatility but that’s the chance I’m willing to take. As long as the 20 day moving average is falling and the 5day moving average stays below it, I’ll be sitting in the G fund (in the tracker), unless there is a buy signal in the F-fund. I know sitting in the G-fund isn’t glamorous but at this time it sure gives you a good night’s sleep!
Date Fund Price 5dyma 20dyma Current Status and Recommendation
10/14 C 11.4593 10.99 12.80 5dayma still below 20dayma - Avoid
10/15 C 10.4196 10.79 12.63 5dayma still below 20dayma - Avoid
10/14 S 13.6019 13.14 15.86 5dayma still below 20dayma - Avoid
10/15 S 12.3365 12.87 15.61 5dayma still below 20dayma - Avoid
10/14 I 15.4268 14.79 17.35 5dayma still below 20dayma - Avoid
10/15 I 13.9249 14.46 17.13 5dayma still below 20dayma - Avoid
10/14 F 11.7982 11.96 12.10 5dayma still below 20dayma - Avoid
10/15 F 11.7863 11.89 12.08 5dayma still below 20dayma - Avoid
I’m trying something a little different but very simple. We are only going to deal with daily closing price, and two simple moving averages, a 5 day and a 20 day. The rules are simple, when price then the 5 day moving average move above the 20 day moving average we buy. When price then the 5 day moving average move below the 20 day moving average we sell. How much you buy or sell is up to you depending on your risk tolerance. Keep in mind we are still in a bear market as the 200 day moving averages are still falling for the stock funds. I’ll be using closing prices to compute the moving averages. So here we go and good luck!
I’m remaining in the G-fund for now in the tracker. I have been in the G fund since 9/5/08. My rollover IRA is currently invested in some SDS, SDD, and EFU. I have been selling shares as they move up in value and buying more as they move down in value. They are shorting vehicles which move up in value as the markets tank, and go down in value as the markets go up.
I don’t believe stock prices can have a sustainable rally at this time. I think depression fears as well as downward corporate earnings estimates will limit rallies going forward. I believe the public will be staying out of the markets as well, I’m sure they will be shell shocked when reviewing their future monthly 401K and brokerage account statements! So I will try this simple new system, hopefully it will continue to keep us out of trouble!
Good Luck!