Government Motors

[Viva_La_Migra]

The new Challenger is pretty hot too. I say it's about time they realized us old guys liked the look of the old cars, rather than making every vehicle look the same the way they do now.

Chrysler has been coming up with some really good looking cars lately. Unfortunately, quality has been a problem of late. My wife loved the look of the PT Cruiser when it first came out, but they were gutless and cheaply made. The Chevy HHR is a little better than the PT Cruiser, but I've had it for a rental and I was unimpressed.

I think they sometimes get their building ideas from Fernando!:blink:

 

[James48843]

Sales data from GM for May released today.

GM saw growth in most brands, except for Cadillac, which was off slightly. (Maybe Mitt's wife needs a third one, no? )

Malibu continues to be a hot seller, with over 29,000 delivered in May.

Volt sales continue to do relatively well, 1690 for the month. Volt sales continue to increase momentum. It will never be a 29,000 unit volume car, but it's doing well.



Overall, most model lines had increases.



Still on track for a 14 million car year, as projected earlier this year. Solid and steady.

Complete May numbers for GM deliveries:
http://media.gm.com/content/dam/Media/gmcom/investor/2012/0601Deliveries.pdf

 

[Sensei]

I'd sure like to drive a Dodge Journey. Are those made in Mexico, like most of the other American cars I like?

 

[Buster]

Well..It's back to Jaguar..I have a deal going right now and I am getting rid of that Mexican made 2011 Lincoln MKZ I bought last fall for this..
A 2012 Jaguar XFR...Pictures will follow in a few weeks..

This is the color

 

[OBGibby]

Well..It's back to Jaguar..I have a deal going right now and I am getting rid of that Mexican made 2011 Lincoln MKZ I bought last fall for this..
A 2012 Jaguar XFR...Pictures will follow in a few weeks..

This is the color

What did you do with your old Jag?

 

[Buster]

What did you do with your old Jag?

...But If you mean this old Jag..

...I traded it for this last fall.

 

[Buster]

Deal fell through..Looks like I'll be with this Old Ford a little longer yet..

 

[nnuut]

Deal fell through..Looks like I'll be with this Old Ford a little longer yet..

Poor thing, I can loan you my 1995 Nissan Pickup to hold you over if you need it.

 

[Buster]

Poor thing, I can loan you my 1995 Nissan Pickup to hold you over if you need it.

 

[James48843]

GM sales up..

Chrysler sales up.

FORD sales to be released shortly.

We'll see the actual numbers today.

 

[James48843]

GM Reports June U.S. Sales up 16 percent

Tue, Jul 3 2012

DETROIT – General Motors Co. (NYSE: GM) today reported June sales of 248,750 vehicles in the United States, up 16 percent year over year and the company’s highest sales since September 2008. Chevrolet, Buick, GMC and Cadillac all reported double-digit increases.
“Across the board, June was a strong month for GM,” said Kurt McNeil, vice president, U.S. Sales Operations. “The combination of new products, available credit, lower fuel prices and modest economic growth was a stronger influence on consumer behavior than economic and political uncertainty."
For the month, GM passenger car sales were up 12 percent year over year, thanks to a 32 percent increase in Chevrolet Malibu sales and a 21 percent increase in Buick LaCrosse sales.
Combined sales of all seven Chevrolet, Buick, GMC and Cadillac crossovers were up 30 percent versus a year ago.
Truck sales were up 11 percent, with all pickup, van and SUV segments up year over year.
Retail deliveries were up 8 percent year over year. Fleet deliveries were up 36 percent versus a year ago due in part to the timing of customer deliveries. In July, fleet volumes and mix are expected be down month over month and year over year.
GM’s newest vehicles continue to perform well. Sales of the Buick Verano were 4,091 in June, and have increased each month since the car launched in December 2011. Chevrolet Sonic sales were 6,785 units and it is the retail sales leader in its segment. The new Cadillac XTS began arriving in showrooms in June, and dealers delivered more than 750 vehicles. Over the course of 2012 and 2013, 70 percent of GM’s nameplates will be all-new or redesigned.
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2012 Highlights ​

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June Total Sales ​

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Total Change vs. June 2011 ​

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June Retail Sales ​

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Retail Change vs. June 2011 ​

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CYTD​

Sales ​

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CYTD Change vs. 2011 ​

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CYTD Retail Sales ​

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CYTD​

Retail Change vs. 2011 ​

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Chevrolet​

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180,098​

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14.8%​

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113,369​

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7.8%​

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961,662​

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6.3%​

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638,815​

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4.4%​

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GMC​

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37,677​

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14.9%​

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29,399​

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3.2%​

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201,041​

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7.3%​

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166,771​

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2.9%​

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Buick​

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18,851​

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26.8%​

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15,096​

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17.5%​

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90,198​

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(3.6%)​

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78,469​

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1.5%​

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Cadillac​

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12,124​

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11.6%​

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11,155​

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9.2%​

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62,812​

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(17.5%)​

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60,082​

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(8.5%)​

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Total GM​

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248,750​

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15.5%​

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169,019​

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7.9%​

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1,315,713​

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4.3%​

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944,137​

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3.0%​

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Industry Sales ​

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June SAAR (est.) ​

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CYTD SAAR (est.) ​

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Full Year 2012 (est.) ​

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Light Vehicles​

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14.0 million range​

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14.3 million range​

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14.0 million – 14.5 million​

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Inventory ​

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Units @ June 30, 2012 ​

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Days Supply
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Units @ May 31, 2012 ​

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Days Supply
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All Vehicles​

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700,927​

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76​

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694,600​

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74​

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Full-size Pickups​

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238,194​

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135​

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223,296​

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116​

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General Motors Co. (NYSE:GM, TSX: GMM) and its partners produce vehicles in 30 countries, and the company has leadership positions in the world's largest and fastest-growing automotive markets. GM’s brands include Chevrolet and Cadillac, as well as Baojun, Buick, GMC, Holden, Isuzu, Jiefang, Opel, Vauxhall and Wuling. More information on the company and its subsidiaries, including OnStar, a global leader in vehicle safety, security and information services, can be found at General Motors | GM.com.

Nice.

 

[James48843]

P.S.- Chevy Volt sales up 213%.



http://media.gm.com/content/dam/Media/gmcom/investor/2012/0703Deliveries.pdf

 

[Frixxxx]

P.S.- Chevy Volt sales up 213%.



http://media.gm.com/content/dam/Media/gmcom/investor/2012/0703Deliveries.pdf

Those numbers are GM deliveries with expectations to sell, right?

Interesting...I never saw a Chevy Volt on the road...until this past weekend when I saw 2 of them on different days.
Was thinking "Hmmm this is interesting". Walked up to one of them that was parked at the mall...and I must say it looked sharp.
I normally buy "used"...and my next used might be a Volt a few years from now.

Or Car of the Year last year...Chevy Malibu.

We have a 1000 car parking lot here. 4 Chevy Volts have appeared and I have strategically placed myself to talk to the owners. 100% of the owners love this vehicle for the ride. 100% love the fact that they are currently using no gas. (they all live within the electrical range from their battery charger at home). 100% of them are leases.

I thought this really cool because the pride in ownership. But they all agreed that they leased the vehicles for one reason: Battery life! Since all the hoopla about 3-10 year replacement life and the $4-6K cost, no one wants to own into that time frame. So, there is a catch right now for ownership. But one of the gentlemen had a great reasoning behind his concern. He said, "If driving this vehicle funds the future of non-gasoline power vehicles, then I've done a service to my kids when they get to have a greener earth."

Anyway, jury is still out for me.

 

[Buster]

There are no rockets, airplanes or hybrid electric car built by any anybody in the world that can accelerate from a standing start as fast as a Top Fuel Dragster !

Given:

One top fuel dragster 500 cubic-inch Hemi engine makes more horsepower than the first 4 rows of stock cars at the Daytona 500.

It takes just 15/100ths of a second for all 6,000+ horsepower of an NHRA Top Fuel dragster engine to reach the rear wheels.

Under full throttle, a dragster engine consumes 1-1/2 gallons of nitro methane per second; a fully-loaded 747 consumes jet fuel at the same rate with 25% less energy being produced.

A stock, Dodge Hemi, V8 engine cannot produce enough power to drive the dragster's supercharger..

With 3,000 CFM of air being rammed in by the supercharger on overdrive, the fuel mixture is compressed into a near-solid form before ignition.

Cylinders run on the verge of hydraulic lock at full throttle.

At the stoichiometric (stoichiometry: methodology and technology by which quantities of reactants and products in chemical reactions are determined) 1.7:1 air/fuel mixture of nitro methane, the flame front temperature measures 7,050 deg. F.

Nitro methane burns yellow... The spectacular white flame seen above the stacks at night is raw burning hydrogen, dissociated from atmospheric water vapor by the searing exhaust gases.

Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug. This is the output of an arc welder in each cylinder.

Spark plug electrodes are totally consumed during a pass. After halfway, the engine is dieseling from compression, plus the glow of exhaust valves at 1,400 deg F. The engine can only be shut down by cutting the fuel flow.

If spark momentarily fails early in the run, unburned nitro builds up in the affected cylinders and then explodes with sufficient force to blow cylinder heads off the block in pieces or split the block in half.

In order to exceed 300 mph in 4.5 seconds, dragsters must accelerate an average of over 4G's. In order to reach 200 mph (well before half-track), the launch acceleration approaches 8G's.

Dragsters reach over 300 miles per hour before you have completed reading this sentence.

Top fuel engines turn approximately 540 revolutions from light to light! Including the burnout, the engine must only survive 900 revolutions under load.

The redline is actually quite high at 9,500 rpm.

Assuming all the equipment is paid for, the crew worked for free, and for once NOTHING BLOWS UP, each run costs an estimate $1,000.00 per second.

The current top fuel dragster elapsed time record is 4.428 seconds for the quarter mile (11/12/06, Tony Schumacher, at Pomona , CA ). The top speed record is 336.15 mph as measured over the last 66' of the run (05/25/05 Tony Schumacher, at Hebron , OH ).
Putting all of this into perspective:

You are driving the average $140,000 Lingenfelter, 'twin-turbo' powered, Corvette Z06. Over a mile up the road, a top fuel dragster is staged and ready to launch down a quarter mile strip as you pass. You have the advantage of a flying start. You run the 'Vette hard up through the gears and blast across the starting line and pass the dragster at an honest 200 mph. The 'tree' goes green for both of you at that moment.

The dragster launches and starts after you. You keep your foot down hard, but you hear an incredibly brutal whine that sears your eardrums and within 3 seconds, the dragster catches and passes you. He beats you to the finish line, a quarter mile away from where you just passed him.

Think about it, from a standing start,the dragster had spotted you 200 mph and not only caught, but nearly blasted you off the road when he passed you within a mere 1,320 foot long race course.

Now try doing that in a stinking VOLT!

 

[James48843]

Those numbers are GM deliveries with expectations to sell, right?

No. Deliveries means actually sold and delivered to customers (or leased, and delivered to customers).

"Production" is the number of cars made and shipped to dealers.
"Deliveries" are the ones actually purchased or leased, and put into customer's hands that month.

Production figures are here:
http://media.gm.com/content/dam/Media/gmcom/investor/2012/0703GMNAProduction.pdf


Delivery figures are here:
http://media.gm.com/content/dam/Media/gmcom/investor/2012/0703Deliveries.pdf

more:
General Motors | Investors - Sales & Production | GM.com

 

[James48843]

On the Oshawa, Ontario Chevy Camaro production line:
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[nnuut]

How about move that plant to the USA where it was before?

 

[nnuut]

Check out this list, I think GM could afford to move some of these back to the Good Old USA!
List of General Motors factories - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Birchtree]

They are not going to return because they cannot afford Obamacare or pay the required taxes to continue socialist redistribution.

 

[James48843]

They are not going to return because they cannot afford Obamacare or pay the required taxes to continue socialist redistribution.

Oshawa Assembly plant, the one seen in that video, is closing this year, and all production of the 2013 Impala will be done at the Hamtramck Detroit assembly plant.

GM closure of Oshawa plant signals tough labour talks to come - thestar.com

Sorry Birch, but once again you are wrong. They are moving production to the USA, not the other way around.