GOV Shutdown or not?

[RealMoneyIssues]

What a dummy!:embarrest:

Take away his moderator status... lol

:laugh: :blink:

 

[RealMoneyIssues]

It's not about the money.



More:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/07/government-shutdown-planned-parenthood_n_846463.html

Wow, such a one sided commentary... oh, it's the Huffington Post... duh

 

[Christopher]

and what a perk THAT would be! the best perk we can manage out on Main Street is a 10% discount at local food establishments - wish the gas stations would match that offer... :suspicious:

I wonder if I can get the gas station to accept government I.O.U.s

 

[JTH]

It's not about the money.



More:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/07/government-shutdown-planned-parenthood_n_846463.html

And why should we pay for this program? This is 1 party buying votes through free abortions for poor minorites who make up the majority, or am I mistaken? Federal funded birth control.

 

[nnuut]

Take away his moderator status... lol

:laugh: :blink:

Who says you can't be a Mod if you're a Dummy?:laugh:

 

[nnuut]

And why should we pay for this program? This is 1 party buying votes through free abortions for poor minorites who make up the majority, or am I mistaken? Federal funded birth control.

Someone is forgetting cutting EPA power and Trashing PBS!

 

[RealMoneyIssues]

Who says you can't be a Mod if you're a Dummy?:laugh:

I wasn't going there... buuuuutttt...

 

[Viva_La_Migra]

It's not about the money.



More:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/07/government-shutdown-planned-parenthood_n_846463.html

Remember, the Democrats controlled the House, the Senate, and the White House. They had the duty and the obligation to pass a budget BEFORE the beginning of the fiscal year. THEY FAILED TO DO SO! This shutdown is the Democrat Party's fault. No amount of spin on your part will change this basic fact.

 

[James48843]

And why should we pay for this program? This is 1 party buying votes through free abortions for poor minorites who make up the majority, or am I mistaken? Federal funded birth control.

You are mistaken. Planned Parenthood is prohibted by law from spending federal money on abortion services. The money in question isn't for abortion services, it's for pap smears, breast x-rays, birth control and counseling under Title X.

But- that aside, the point is...that the entire shutdown, which was proclaimed to be about the size of spending- is no longer about the size of spending- it's all come down to ideological arguments, not spending issues.

 

[Frixxxx]

Guess we need a warning.

Please refrain from the political side of this discussion.

If you have pertinent effects on the financial ramifications (personal or market), that is acceptable.

Thanks everyone!

 

[James48843]

Remember, the Democrats controlled the House, the Senate, and the White House. They had the duty and the obligation to pass a budget BEFORE the beginning of the fiscal year. THEY FAILED TO DO SO! This shutdown is the Democrat Party's fault. No amount of spin on your part will change this basic fact.

Why did they fail to do so?

If you remember last fall- they passed a full year-long budget in the House.

And they sent it to the Senate.

And even though the dems controlled 58 votes in the Senate, no republican would agree to allow it to be given a vote. The republicans blocked the vote last fall.

That's why no budget was passed last fall.

 

[Steel_Magnolia]

Remember, the Democrats controlled the House, the Senate, and the White House. They had the duty and the obligation to pass a budget BEFORE the beginning of the fiscal year. THEY FAILED TO DO SO! This shutdown is the Democrat Party's fault. No amount of spin on your part will change this basic fact.

I will be so glad when Beltway is back up and running so that this MB can be about non-finger pointing issues again. <grin>

 

[James48843]

Frixxxx-

give me a concession on the above post. I wrote it before you posted your above note- although I hit the post button after you hit your post button.

Sorry.

 

[Steel_Magnolia]

Why did they fail to do so?

If you remember last fall- they passed a full year-long budget in the House.

And they sent it to the Senate.

And even though the dems controlled 58 votes in the Senate, no republican would agree to allow it to be given a vote. The republicans blocked the vote last fall.

That's why no budget was passed last fall.

Silly Jim, trying to inject facts into the budget discussion again. LOL

 

[James48843]

I will be so glad when Beltway is back up and running so that this MB can be about non-finger pointing issues again. <grin>

note:

Major issue with beltway. the new server software is an older version that is not able to handle the upload size of the exsting message data that's on Beltway- so I have to get with the server company and ask for a software update to be installed before I can resume uploading beltway.

It may be awhile before that's done.

Sorry.

 

[RealMoneyIssues]

Why did they fail to do so?

If you remember last fall- they passed a full year-long budget in the House.

And they sent it to the Senate.

And even though the dems controlled 58 votes in the Senate, no republican would agree to allow it to be given a vote. The republicans blocked the vote last fall.

That's why no budget was passed last fall.

And why would any SANE person pass a budget with increased spending and a 1.76 BILLION deficit? :blink: :blink:

 

[jpcavin]

Bush broke it and Obama don't know how to fix it. Are we all even? Can we move along now?

 

[WorkFE]

JP,
Not likely

 

[hotwings]

I doubt they will shut down....they are playing political games and the political fallout will be huge if they don't reach a deal or extend the CR by this evening.

 

[JTH]

You are mistaken. Planned Parenthood is prohibted by law from spending federal money on abortion services. The money in question isn't for abortion services, it's for pap smears, breast x-rays, birth control and counseling under Title X.

But- that aside, the point is...that the entire shutdown, which was proclaimed to be about the size of spending- is no longer about the size of spending- it's all come down to ideological arguments, not spending issues.

Copy, so then my next non-political question is why aren't these services removed from Planned Parenthood and rolled into the National health care system?

What this is, is two parties playing chicken.