GOV Shutdown or not?

Are you in favor of a GOV wide SHUTDOWN?

  • YES

    Votes: 32 50.8%

  • NO

    Votes: 31 49.2%
  • Total voters
    63
  • Poll closed .
Sort by newest Sort by date
FireWeatherMet said:
I voted NO.

But to share the pain, I think all gov't expenditures should be on the furlough table.

Civilian, MIlitary, Retirement. People forget how much the gov't is in charge of, and putting it all on the table is more representative (and a bitter pill to swallow for those who say "get gov't out of our lives, uhm except where it personally benefits me"). This way many military and retiree seniors would at least be putting their $$ where their mouths are...IMHO.

Hope that wasn't too harsh.
Click to expand...

If there are too many govt employees, curb how many people you hire. If they get paid too much, change the pay scales. If my taxes help to fund social security, then damn it, I expect to get a social security paycheck. If I was promised a pension after 20 years of service, I expect that pension. Things that people EARN should not be messed with. There is a difference between taking away what someone has earned and not having enough money because the government is too busy wasting our tax dollars. If a third world country needs our military assistance, charge them for our services! Barter our fighting power for oil. Geez!:mad:
Get rid of all the PORK! Eat more chicken!:D
 
jpcavin said:
If there are too many govt employees, curb how many people you hire. If they get paid too much, change the pay scales. If my taxes help to fund social security, then damn it, I expect to get a social security paycheck. If I was promised a pension after 20 years of service, I expect that pension. Things that people EARN should not be messed with. There is a difference between taking away what someone has earned and not having enough money because the government is too busy wasting our tax dollars. If a third world country needs our military assistance, charge them for our services! Barter our fighting power for oil. Geez!:mad:
Get rid of all the PORK! Eat more chicken!:D
Click to expand...
Thank you and well put..reps for you
 
jpcavin said:
Man, this board really got me going tonight! :nuts:
Click to expand...

Good to see some polite passion on the forum amongst friends. JPCavin, I can agree with you it is stressful thinking (and budgeting) payday-to-payday, I had forgotten about that. When all is said, I want the problems fixed, but what I don't want is for our troops to get behind, using paycheck loan sharks, trying to scrape their way out of debt. Some folks live hand to mouth, and although I'm middle-class, I'm not that far away from being poor.
 
JTH said:
Good to see some polite passion on the forum amongst friends. JPCavin, I can agree with you it is stressful thinking (and budgeting) payday-to-payday, I had forgotten about that. When all is said, I want the problems fixed, but what I don't want is for our troops to get behind, using paycheck loan sharks, trying to scrape their way out of debt. Some folks live hand to mouth, and although I'm middle-class, I'm not that far away from being poor.
Click to expand...

Yeah, I want my money like everyone else but just want this whole thing to be resolved and if shutting down speeds the process than so be it. However, I am totally against not paying the military. The lame reason given was that DFAS is all civilians and they will not be around to process the pay. TOTALLY LAME! :mad: Either classify some DFAS employees as "essential personnel" or bring in some experienced military pay clerks to fill in for DFAS civilians.

On a side note. I really can't afford to go more than 2 weeks without pay. So I am hoping for a brief closure/swift resolution. :worried:
 
WorkFE said:
Just finished changing the oil in the dump trucks. Tomorrow by COB I'll know if I need to start lining up additional jobs. My crew will run them during the day and I'll run them at nite. Anyone know how to drive a 13 spd 32 ton dump. I'd like to keep them both working 24/7.:D

Shut it down.
Click to expand...

How far are you? Still have job box, will travel.

Last one I drove for pay was an automatic. Closed Alcoa site south of the river. Two excavators and two trucks, cleaning sediment ponds, we had our very own racetrack there just outside of town.

It's been a while but I'm sure I could pick back up on the old grind and find.

View attachment 10896
 
jpcavin said:
Thanks Dennis! :) I think after tonight, I may need to get started on daily dose of nitroglycerin.:laugh:
Click to expand...


I like your passion..While on the subject..don't forget to keep us posted on those tan lines too..
eyebrowswiggle.gif
 
jpcavin said:
Yeah, I want my money like everyone else but just want this whole thing to be resolved and if shutting down speeds the process than so be it. However, I am totally against not paying the military. The lame reason given was that DFAS is all civilians and they will not be around to process the pay. TOTALLY LAME! :mad: Either classify some DFAS employees as "essential personnel" or bring in some experienced military pay clerks to fill in for DFAS civilians.

On a side note. I really can't afford to go more than 2 weeks without pay. So I am hoping for a brief closure/swift resolution. :worried:
Click to expand...

I'm not sure your lame reason about DFAS is correct. I think that the defense department is under a continueing resolution. I don't think any of the several budget bills were passed this year. If the continueing resolution runs out I do not think the DOD has the authority to pay anyone.

I could be wrong, Lisa. Someone will correct me.
 
PessOptimist said:
I'm not sure your lame reason about DFAS is correct. I think that the defense department is under a continueing resolution. I don't think any of the several budget bills were passed this year. If the continueing resolution runs out I do not think the DOD has the authority to pay anyone.

I could be wrong, Lisa. Someone will correct me.
Click to expand...

My understanding is that DFAS will pay us through 4/8 on 4/15 (basically, half a paycheck)...
 
PessOptimist said:
I'm not sure your lame reason about DFAS is correct. I think that the defense department is under a continueing resolution. I don't think any of the several budget bills were passed this year. If the continueing resolution runs out I do not think the DOD has the authority to pay anyone.

I could be wrong, Lisa. Someone will correct me.
Click to expand...

FYI - My name is not Lisa. And military is considered essential, so yes they are most definitely authorized to be paid! Just like police, ems, etc. It's a matter of national security. If they were not authorized pay, they would not receive retroactive pay!
 
RealMoneyIssues said:
My understanding is that DFAS will pay us through 4/8 on 4/15 (basically, half a paycheck)...
Click to expand...

RMI, yes. Pay cutoff for the 15th (usually around 6th) is already over and done with (i.e. processed), that is why you are getting paid on the 15th. If the shutdown goes beyond the end of month(EOM) pay cutoff (usually around 22nd) then you will not see a paycheck on the 30th because nobody will be at DFAS to process pay by the end of month cutoff date. However, all military will get retroactive pay when DFAS is back to work.
The part I am not clear about is how they are only going to pay through the 8th when the pay has already been processed through the 15th. If somehow all pay is intercepted and cut off on the 8th, that would equate to 1/2 a paycheck of half a month's pay....or 25% of your monthly pay.
 
Last edited:
I think so too RMI. The statements say you will be paid on the 15th. What they don't seem to say is it will be for the 1st thru the 8th of the month.

About half? Good luck to all of you. I know what "about half" of my normal mid month pay would have meant to my budget.

Good luck to you all
 
The Lisa thing is an old joke paraphrasing an old song. "I'm not Lisa, my name is Julie". Very often mis quoted as Judy. I thought you might bite.

This discussion brings up the old discussion about what days/month the paycheck you recieve is paying you for. I think I proved to myself and others that you get paid on the 15th for the month you are in. Like my pay on the 15th is for 1-15 APR. If I was still on active duty.

Based on what you said about the pay being finalized on the sixth, it is a done deal even if there are no funds legally available.

I am really not trying to start any argument about this. I only want to make sure that the kids serving right now know what may or may not happen.

Yeah, I am retired from the military but I do still care about my former family.

PO
 
PessOptimist said:
I think so too RMI. The statements say you will be paid on the 15th. What they don't seem to say is it will be for the 1st thru the 8th of the month.

About half? Good luck to all of you. I know what "about half" of my normal mid month pay would have meant to my budget.

Good luck to you all
Click to expand...

It's not going to be as big a deal for those of us who are prepared, but still too many of our young Sailors are living paycheck to paycheck because they just don't know any better.
Maybe, through this shutdown, some of them will wise up and learn about money manangement.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

JTH
  • Article Article
Pre-Bell ☕ 07-Nov-2025
Replies
0
Views
118
JTH
JTH
JTH
  • Article Article
Pre-Bell ☕ 31-Oct-2025
Replies
0
Views
149
JTH
JTH
JTH
  • Article Article
Pre-Bell ☕ 20-Oct-2025
Replies
0
Views
124
JTH
JTH
JTH
  • Article Article
Pre-Bell ☕ 16-Oct-2025
Replies
1
Views
177
pmaloney
pmaloney
tsptalk
  • Article Article
Stocks rally into the close despite the imminent shutdown
Replies
5
Views
411
WorkFE
WorkFE
Back
Top