GOV Shutdown or not?

[Scrappy]

Why did they fail to do so?

If you remember last fall- they passed a full year-long budget in the House.

And they sent it to the Senate.

And even though the dems controlled 58 votes in the Senate, no republican would agree to allow it to be given a vote. The republicans blocked the vote last fall.

That's why no budget was passed last fall.

Sooooo, the buck hasn't stopped at the "leaders" desk on any issue since elected. Bottom line is it George Bush's fault!

 

[James48843]

Some new numbers coming in....

Environmental Protection Agency: Of 17,721 employees, 16,061 workers would be furloughed.



Health and Human Services: 47,693 workers departmentwide would be furloughed.


Interior: From 52,000 to 55,000 out of 68,900 total employees would be furloughed.


Housing and Urban Development: The department has 9,700 employees. Of that number, 846 would be excepted and 8,854 furloughed.

More at:
http://www.govexec.com/story_page.cfm?articleid=47552&oref=todaysnews

 

[FAB1]

:nuts: Youve gotta be pretty dumb to believe this media line that Planned parenthood is the ONLY thing stopping a finished budget.

Of course the slant is womens health is at risk.

No mention that babie humans lives are at risk.

I call Bee Ess!

 

[JTH]

Screw it, I'm changing my vote to a yes and going with the scorched earth policy. What we need is some real sacrifices, somebody willing to take a financial bullet. Pain is a good thing...

Please, keep it nice, there is no need for name calling or names implied.

 

[FAB1]

Ok I for one I about amazed at the poll results so far???

50/50 ?

Half of Government employee say its OK to send me home without pay?

Maybe there is hope for the USA after all.

 

[Silverbird]

Yikes, a little fire down here since my last post?

Reminds me of the following:
U.S. Company: Our strategies parallel one another, don't you think?
Chinese Company: (listens to the translation, thinks for a moment) Yes, in parallel.
US company sponsors huge banquet.
3 weeks later US company doesn't get any orders. They call the Chinese company, "I thought you agreed our strategies paralled one another."
Chinese company, "Yes, I looked up parallel. And it said 'two lines that never meet.'":toung:

 

[nasa1974]

From CONGRESS.org


Shutdowns of the past

By CQ Staff

On 17 occasions since September 1976, Congress has allowed appropriations to lapse, requiring the government to begin shutting down non-essential operations.


Fiscal Year 1977
• The government shut down on Thursday, Sept. 30, 1976, for 10 days.
Fiscal Year 1978
• The government shut down on Friday, Sept. 30, 1977, for 12 days;
• Monday, Oct. 31, 1977, for eight days; and on
• Wednesday, Nov. 30, 1977, for eight days.

http://www.congress.org/news/2011/04/08/shutdowns_of_the_past

 

[James48843]

Yikes, a little fire down here since my last post?

Reminds me of the following:
U.S. Company: Our strategies parallel one another, don't you think?
Chinese Company: (listens to the translation, thinks for a moment) Yes, in parallel.
US company sponsors huge banquet.
3 weeks later US company doesn't get any orders. They call the Chinese company, "I thought you agreed our strategies paralled one another."
Chinese company, "Yes, I looked up parallel. And it said 'two lines that never meet.'":toung:

Peeerrrfect.

 

[Scrappy]

note:

Major issue with beltway. the new server software is an older version that is not able to handle the upload size of the exsting message data that's on Beltway- so I have to get with the server company and ask for a software update to be installed before I can resume uploading beltway.

It may be awhile before that's done.

Sorry.

Does the budget exist to purchase the software update for the furloughed beltway?

 

[Buster]

On the abortion thing..

If the taxpayer don't fund free abortions for shall we say; underprivileged promiscuous females..then we the taxpayers will more than likely be paying for the child through and beyond age 18 via some form of social welfare program....so IMO, it's a pay them now or pay for a very long time, 9 months later.....

Just putting that out there..not saying which way is best or worse

 

[Viva_La_Migra]

Why did they fail to do so?

If you remember last fall- they passed a full year-long budget in the House.

And they sent it to the Senate.

And even though the dems controlled 58 votes in the Senate, no republican would agree to allow it to be given a vote. The republicans blocked the vote last fall.

That's why no budget was passed last fall.

They weren't willing to work with Republicans to cut spending. Sounds oddly familiar.:suspicious:

 

[Viva_La_Migra]

On the abortion thing..

If the taxpayer don't fund free abortions for shall we say; underprivileged promiscuous females..then we the taxpayers will more than likely be paying for the child through and beyond age 18 via some form of social welfare program....so IMO, it's a pay them now or pay for a very long time, 9 months later....Lose-lose.

It is kinda funny that Democrats are for abortion and Republicans are against it. More welfare recipients and convicts means more votes for Democrats. You'd think they'd be opposed to abortion for that reason alone. I mean, that's the only reason they like Undocumented Democrats.

 

[Viva_La_Migra]

Bush broke it and Obama don't know how to fix it. Are we all even? Can we move along now?

Bush didn't break it, the Democrats did. The Republicans spent a whole lot of money after 09/11, but the Democrats have brought us to the brink of bankruptcy since they took over the Congress in 2007.

 

[jpcavin]

Bush didn't break it.

I know that. Just trying to make nice. You know, throw the Dems a bone. :laugh:

Gosh, I may get my first warning for this.

 

[James48843]

How about we all agree that our fellow workers, who may or may not be coming to work on Monday, all deserve our moral support.

We can't really do anything about what the decisions makes in D.C. want to do or will do.

But we can tell our fellow workers we feel for them and will do what we can for them to help ease their burdens.

Can we all agree on that?

 

[WorkFE]

Is it fair to say J, you are an excepted position employee?

 

[nnuut]

I agree, all they need to do is to have patience they will get paid, always have during these things.

 

[jpcavin]

Is it fair to say J, you are an excepted position employee?

No. I will be on furlough. I will eat off the fat of the land and Obama will pay my mortgage. No worries. :laugh:

 

[WorkFE]

No. I will be on furlough.

James.

 

[Viva_La_Migra]

Is it fair to say J, you are an excepted position employee?

I'll be in for work. I was going to take leave on Monday, but that was canceled and I was told if I didn't come in I'd be considered AWOL. Hope I don't get sick over the weekend.