ekatteng's Account Talk

[Griffin]

Not than interesting, as this is little more than two weeks... and substantially off Ek's claim... and his actual autotracker returns..

Let's try this though...

Flip a coin (heads =G fund, tails = I fund) and follow that for a couple weeks, You will likely be everybody, but is that really how you want to handle your retirement? Now that would be interesting...

Back in middle of 2006, someone backtested the numbers on flip-flopping between the G and I funds everyday. If you started the year in one - the return was incredible, but the reverse was true if you started in the other.

Every "system" needs time to prove itself - which is all were asking from Ek.

 

[EW_ret]

EbbChart is not trailing ekatteng for October. Its the other way around according to the Automated Tracker tally. For Oct 1 to 17:

EbbChart = +0.81% (1.0399 X 1.0081= 1.0483, or 4.83%)
ekatteng = -0.70%

We do not recognize any claims in the ekatteng's Account talk, or other threads. Its what is posted in the trackers that counts.

wow thanks charmed...ebb trailing ekatteng for the month of october huh...interesting stuff here...anticipating ek's next calls and will be comparing them to the ebbchart...curious indeed!

 

[Wildboar53]

Again in Ek's defence - He said he would be away this week and wouldnt be able post to the autotracker as he should be -- therefore his results on it are skewed.

 

[ekatteng]

The Neural Network Artificial Intelligence System Historical Tested Performs
45% plus return yield a year and it is 65% Correct on Ups & Downs, 25% Safe, and
10% Wrong

Too Good To Be True… Too True To Be Good !

10/26 (Friday) =100% G-Fund
10/25 (Thursday) =100% I-Fund
10/24 (Wednesday)=100% G-Fund
10/23 (Tuesday) =100% I-Fund
10/22 (Monday) =100% I-Fund
10/19 (Friday) =100% G-Fund
10/18 (Thursday) =100% G-Fund
10/17 (Wednesday)=100% I-Fund
10/16 (Tuesday) =100% G-Fund
10/15 (Monday) =100% I-Fund
10/12 (Friday) =100% G-Fund
10/11 (Thursday) =100% I-Fund
10/10 (Wednesday)=100% G-Fund
10/09 (Tuesday) =100% I-Fund
10/08 (Monday) =100% G-Fund
10/05 (Friday) =100% G-Fund
10/04 (Thursday) =100% I-Fund
10/03 (Wednesday)=100% I-Fund
10/02 (Tuesday) =100% G-Fund

 

[ekatteng]

Wildboar53, You are correct ! I did not have access to PC to do the IFT on the autotracker and my results are skewed. I am certain that time will turn them around. Thank you for hang in there !!!

Again in Ek's defence - He said he would be away this week and wouldnt be able post to the autotracker as he should be -- therefore his results on it are skewed.

 

[ekatteng]

EW_ret, Thank you for clarifying. EbbChart is a different system and needs not to trail the neural network artificial intelligence system. I understand the automated tracker that count.

EbbChart is not trailing ekatteng for October. Its the other way around according to the Automated Tracker tally. For Oct 1 to 17:

EbbChart = +0.81% (1.0399 X 1.0081= 1.0483, or 4.83%)
ekatteng = -0.70%

We do not recognize any claims in the ekatteng's Account talk, or other threads. Its what is posted in the trackers that counts.

 

[ekatteng]

Griffin, You are correct. Every "system" needs time to prove itself. The neural network artificial intelligence is NOT the exception nor it is a random system, it is pattern recognition type.

Back in middle of 2006, someone backtested the numbers on flip-flopping between the G and I funds everyday. If you started the year in one - the return was incredible, but the reverse was true if you started in the other.

Every "system" needs time to prove itself - which is all were asking from Ek.

 

[ekatteng]

SkyPilot, The neural network artificial intelligence system is NOT a random system. It is based on patterns recognitions. Hope you nor anyone fliping a coin with their retirement... Unless it is heavily weighted on their favor.

Not than interesting, as this is little more than two weeks... and substantially off Ek's claim... and his actual autotracker returns..

Let's try this though...

Flip a coin (heads =G fund, tails = I fund) and follow that for a couple weeks, You will likely be everybody, but is that really how you want to handle your retirement? Now that would be interesting...

 

[ekatteng]

FUTURESTRADER, I do not think Ebb system is trailing any system. It is stand alone system and very very very good one on its own.

no comment

 

[ekatteng]

Mr recognizer, I do not think Ebb system is trailing any system. It is stand alone system and very very very good one on its own.

wow thanks charmed...ebb trailing ekatteng for the month of october huh...interesting stuff here...anticipating ek's next calls and will be comparing them to the ebbchart...curious indeed!

 

[ekatteng]

charmed855 my personal autotracker is off so it would be a misslead to measure the performance of the neural network artificial intelligence system base on my IFT on the autotracker and not on its predictions or prognostics.
If you do the math you will find a huge difference. I know the autotracker is that count and I will do my best to do the effort to do the IFT on the autotracker.

Ok, maybe my methodology is off. According to the autotracker:

4.83% <--- Ebb @ COB today
3.99% <--- Ebb @ COB 9/28/07
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0.84% <--- difference = October gains

Am I off base? Is the autotracker off?

c855

 

[ekatteng]

Griffin, YOU ARE WELCOME TO DO THE MATH IF YOU WISH TO FIND OUT THE 45% PLUS YEARLY YIELD RETURN OF THE NEURAL NETWORK ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE SYSTEM. TIME WILL REVEAL THE TRUTH. I DID NOT NOR DO NOT NEITHER WILL CLAIM TO HAVE THE HOLY GRAIL OF INVESTING ! PLEASE GET REAL ! NOR I HAD ASKED FOR ANY PAID FOR SHARING. SHOW ME YOUR MONKEYS THAT HAVE BEEN ACHIEVING 45% PLUS YEARLY YIELD BY THROWING THE DART...

Mary (and Dan if your reading this too - have you met sugar and spice and/or guy girl )

Ek's problem (so far) does not lie with the success of his system (although he is not meeting his 87% "promised" accuracy rating) but it is in his approach. The tracker was created for the very specific purpose of keeping people from doing exactly what Ek has tried to do - that is pop in on the board and claim to have a Holy Grail of investing....especially if there intention is to try to be paid for said "service".

There is nothing wrong with being wrong - as long as your attempt is honest and unbiased and you do not try to decieve folks about your performance. That is how this board functions, off of mutual respect and consensus. The market is patterned chaos and we are trying to make sense of it all. Ek's performance could truely have been achieved by monkeys throwing darts - Desperado...you still out there? what do you think? Only time will tell .

 

[ekatteng]

fabijo, I really do not think is fair to compare the neural network system with Rev or Ebb, they are paid systems perhaps making several thousands per month, the neural is free sharing among us, they have access to my information five days in advance. I do not have access to their information nor I am totally familiar with their systems. If I subscribe to any of them I loose my right of sharing the neural on the autotracker. They are somehow partners of Tom, I just a member on his website. But please feel free and welcome to do any comparison and let me know how the neural doing. The problem is that which ever become the best it will capture most of the subscribers.

Thanks for the info, Mary!

 

[ekatteng]

maryanddan, Thank you for doing the math. Please keep your eagle eyes on the target and you will see what no one ever seen... just do not be surprise if they do not believe you either...

I just put ek's moves into tsptracker, and if my numbers are correct, it looks like he would be up .87% since Oct. 2. The i fund is only up .39% since that date and the S up 0%. He missed two down days, one of them a big one that totaled -1.48%; and picked up the G penny on one of them. He also missed two up days for a total of 1.10%. So not bad, maybe you guys should lay off a little. Just because the English isn't so good doesn't mean he can't have a valid system. Just a thought.

Mary

 

[ekatteng]

TRUEHONEST, I requested a Members' Accounts (no chat) from spaf and he opened one for me. However, EW_ret closed it because he claimed that the Members' Accounts(no chat) is not for new members and will be replace for the autotracker. That is the reason I am posting on the DDTM and on my Account Talk. It is not my intention to enter in competition with the paid systems. I have tested the neural network artificial intelligence system and I know it works and it yield 45% plus yearly. That is enough for me. I do not want to be tied to paid customers at least for now... Please do not follow my IFT at the autotracker. I may well forget or be on leave or TDY etc. follow the 5 days ahead prediction or prognostic I post.

You said:

"I do not have Members' Accounts (no chat). I do not understand the benefit to even post information on it if only few can access that link."

Beginning of the year is coming very soon so why don't you open Members' Accounts (no chat) to be tracked. You can prove to everybody without any doubt that your system works. All members in here can see your weekly, monthly Score.


In your Members' Accounts (no chat), just put BEFORE NOON
1. IFT 100% C fund COB. or
2. 50I, 50S. or
3. G for Thursday. or
4. 100% G for Monday Oct.15

 

[ekatteng]

SkyPilot, I have tried (SA), they do not allow me ! by EW_ret.... "New accounts in Members Accounts (no chat) are closed to new members. I deleted the ekatteng's Account that spaf created because ekatteng already has a user profile in the Automated Tracker. The Automated Tracker is to be used by all new members. All members should start using the Automated Tracker because it will replace the WebTracker by the end of the year. Member ekatteng presently is using the Automated Tracker. That is sufficient for the last few months of the year...." Now SkyPilot, convence EW_ret otherwise or ask TOM to wave the rule... besides, you are welcome to do the math and compute the neural predictions yields and verify it by yourself. SkyPilot, if I would like to evade accountability I would not be posting the 5 days ahead predictions of the neural. It would be so easy for me to withdraw from here without sharing... but I sacrify myself because you are my friend and I like your sense of humor...

I am convinced that either you are not capable of understanding, or it is your purpose to evade accountability. Either open up a Member's Account (no chat) or don't. I actually don't think you will, as you know, everyone can access that link. I think this is what you are trying to avoid.

NOTICE: Spaf has established "ekatteng Account."

http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/showthread.php?p=122376#post122376

Now we will see if Ek is willing to do what has been asked. Anyone taking odds? :nuts:

 

[ekatteng]

Paladin, I meant in advance not after the facts... the neural is five days in advance not five days after the facts...

Wow, I can't wait for The Perfect Ever System. Just think, it predicts exactly how much the market will go up or down every day and is accurate 100% of the time!

I have a similar system called The Day After System. Using this system I can predict exactly how much the market will go up or down on any given day simply by looking at the charts on the following day.

 

[ekatteng]

Go by the neural network predictions posted not the autotracker. You may see over 45% GAIN per year.

ekatteng:

Question: Just when exactly is your system supposed to start making money?

According to the "autotracker", the postings under your name show your system has now lost -1.09% in 15 calendar days. And that puts your system in 89th place out of 95 players on autotracker.

That translates to an annual LOSS of over 25% per year.

Just wondering.

When do you expect to start making a positive return?

 

[ekatteng]

Uptrend, Thank you for the advise. the neural just go between G and I only...
to be on G when the market goes up hurt ! but at least your account does not decrease.

Caution If you look at your predictions and the performance for that day, (like today you were in G and should have been in S for example), one can see you have already missed by a fair amount, looks like more than 10% already. I think your system needs more work - I certainly would not trust it. Market histories are only a guide, don't go wild just because you have a program that can analyze a chart; there is more too it than that.

 

[Mr recognizer]

Mr recognizer, I do not think Ebb system is trailing any system. It is stand alone system and very very very good one on its own.

better check the tracker friend...ebbs trailing the "total stk mkt index" and the L2040 ,L2030 ,AND the L2020 fund since new tracker debut...