ekatteng's Account Talk

[tsptalk]

great call today ek...wow 100% I call by you...you are neural for sure....are you thinking of going premium any time soon?

ekatteng (innocently, under various names ) has been a long time reader/contributor of the board. He presented his system to us recently and wanted to know about posting it on the website ala the ebbchart or Trader Fred. I told him it would be best if he put it on the autotracker where it can be monitored for 6 to 12 months. He agreed. So, look for the neural system to do it's time on the board for free for several months - well into 2008. I hope it does well!

 

[Birchtree]

A long time reader/contributor to the board you say. I'm frankly puzzled. It won't be long before every Tom, Dick and Harry will have something for sale - entrepreneurlism is alive and well in TSP land.

 

[FUTURESTRADER]

A long time reader/contributor to the board you say. I'm frankly puzzled. It won't be long before every Tom, Dick and Harry will have something for sale - entrepreneurlism is alive and well in TSP land.

lol...why not. But ek is missing the golden opportunity to have his results tracked and verified. Putting it in 'account talk' as he is now will be too questionable. He can't afford to 'forget' to update or not able to, again, if he wants to be taken seriously.

 

[merlin]

lol...why not. But ek is missing the golden opportunity to have his results tracked and verified. Putting it in 'account talk' as he is now will be too questionable. He can't afford to 'forget' to update or not able to, again, if he wants to be taken seriously.

Also changing the calls after the market closes is not good.

Check Mondays change from I to G.

[FONT=Arial,Sans-serif]Hear me talk![/FONT]​

Is it trick or treat?

 

[tsptalk]

A long time reader/contributor to the board you say. I'm frankly puzzled. It won't be long before every Tom, Dick and Harry will have something for sale - entrepreneurlism is alive and well in TSP land.

He's a long way away from selling anything, although I think Mr. R is ready to buy.

If anybody has a system that can show something for 12 months, they deserve to have it put in front of a bigger audience with a page of its own (not for sale yet), like Ebb and Fred had. Yhey get some ad revenue while it is being reviewed by the site's readers. Then if it is something people fall all over, the system creator should be compensated.

As I said, he's a long way from that point, but you have to start somewhere, and that is being tracked on the autotracker. But you do win the overreaction of the day award Birch! :toung:

 

[tsptalk]

Also changing the calls after the market closes is not good.

Check Mondays change from I to G.

Yes, we discourage that. . If it ain't on the autotracker, it isn't going to go anywhere. And he can't change the autotracker transfers after the deadline.

 

[ekatteng]

The Neural Network Artificial Intelligence System prognostics 65% Correct on Ups & Downs, 25% Safe, and 10% Wrong

10/30 (Tuesday) =100%G-Fund
10/29 (Monday) =100%G-Fund
10/26 (Friday) =100%I-Fund
10/25 (Thursday) =100%I-Fund
10/24 (Wednesday)=100%I-Fund
10/23 (Tuesday) =100%I-Fund
10/22 (Monday) =100%G-Fund
10/19 (Friday) =100%G-Fund
10/18 (Thursday) =100%G-Fund
10/17 (Wednesday)=100%I-Fund
10/16 (Tuesday) =100%G-Fund
10/15 (Monday) =100%I-Fund
10/12 (Friday) =100%G-Fund
10/11 (Thursday) =100%I-Fund
10/10 (Wednesday)=100%G-Fund
10/09 (Tuesday) =100%I-Fund
10/08 (Monday) =100%G-Fund
10/05 (Friday) =100%G-Fund
10/04 (Thursday) =100%I-Fund
10/03 (Wednesday)=100%I-Fund
10/02 (Tuesday) =100%G-Fund

 

[ekatteng]

charmed855,How many times I had done chances after the fact. ONCE, ONE TOO MANY ! ... It will not happen again, I promese. The only reason I can think I did is because I must feed the Neurons with good and correct historical data and not with wrong one. I know you were thinking humanoi... not neural... perhaps you were interested in judge past as a right or wrong call and not as a learning experience like the neural network artificial intelligence uses the past. In the future I will keep both systems separate the humanoi for your statistics and the neural for the leaning one.
Not a problem I take your critisism in a positive way... However I would like to ask you as a favor if would you please be so kind to keep using the ekatteng account talk in the future for chat. I would like to keep the DDMT Neural Network Artificial Intelligence System thread just to post the Neural Network Artificial Intelligence Pronostics with (no chat) eventually I will ask EW_ret to transfer all the talk to the ekatteng as possible. It will help everyone to keep the pronostics out of chat and easy for everyone.

Ek, how is it that you can change your allocation for 10/22 from 100% I to 100% G after the fact? That's some neural system you have there! I'm surprised it is not correct 100% of the time! :laugh:

 

[ekatteng]

Mr recognizer, I am glad to FREE share the prognostics of the Neural Network Artificial Intelligence System here at the TSPtalk for as long as possible... or for as long Tom allow me to do so. My intention is not to charge at least not any time soon, but for everyone to profit at least for awhile. That is the reason I scratch my website www.tspneural.com which is slowly being developed as a backup alternative.

great call today ek...wow 100% I call by you...you are neural for sure....are you thinking of going premium any time soon?

 

[ekatteng]

tsptalk, it was very convinience for members and guess to just open your TSPtalk website and click on Ebbchart system and see the free predictions of the week without surf the Message Boards, TSP Talk Forums, Allocation Talk, Members' Account Talk, ekatteng's Account Talk or DDMT thread etc... that keep the in and out traffic very heavy. I which I coud do something similar as possible. I do not mind to wait 6 to 12 months if I have to do so... It was very convinience for everyone. Hope someday you will help us to ease the life for everyone...

ekatteng (innocently, under various names ) has been a long time reader/contributor of the board. He presented his system to us recently and wanted to know about posting it on the website ala the ebbchart or Trader Fred. I told him it would be best if he put it on the autotracker where it can be monitored for 6 to 12 months. He agreed. So, look for the neural system to do it's time on the board for free for several months - well into 2008. I hope it does well!

 

[ekatteng]

Birchtree, I hope you will be millionaire by following the Neural Network Artificial Intelligence System prognostics before I if ever ask for a token of appreciation for all the effort I am putting every day to keep the TSPtalk community wealthy... TOM, EBB, FRED, REV... Dick Harry... well deserve to charge and be compensated for their daily hard work for this TSPtalk community. I am sure you agree. You are welcome to develop your own system and put your white glove and sing beat it too...

A long time reader/contributor to the board you say. I'm frankly puzzled. It won't be long before every Tom, Dick and Harry will have something for sale - entrepreneurlism is alive and well in TSP land.

 

[ekatteng]

FUTURESTRADER, I am posting daily the prognostics of the Neural Network Artificial Intelligence System... You will be surprise how many are taken profits and avoiding losses as we speak... you are welcome to do the arithmetic... and prove it to yourself... do it as a papertrade... just a friendly invitation... I fully understand the doubts... I would be doubtful myself...

lol...why not. But ek is missing the golden opportunity to have his results tracked and verified. Putting it in 'account talk' as he is now will be too questionable. He can't afford to 'forget' to update or not able to, again, if he wants to be taken seriously.

 

[ekatteng]

merlin, I like your halloween sense of humor... trick or treat... flip flap...
How many times I had done chances after the fact. ONCE, ONE TOO MANY ! ... It will not happen again, I promise. The only reason I can think I did is because I must feed the Neurons with good and correct historical data and not with wrong one. I know you were thinking humanoid... not neural... perhaps you were interested in judging past as a right or wrong calls or in the statistics truth of false, sorry you were not on the neural frequency of a learning experience like the neurons of the neural network artificial intelligence use the past to recognize patterns. In the future I will keep both systems separate the humanoid one for your statistics and the neural for the leaning one. Not a problem I take your critisism in a positive way..

Also changing the calls after the market closes is not good.

Check Mondays change from I to G.

[FONT=Arial,Sans-serif]Hear me talk![/FONT]​

Is it trick or treat?

 

[fabijo]

ek, is it possible that while you were training the neural system, it kept correcting itself with each iteration until it came up with the only 10% wrong?

It may be possible that your neural network will change predictions after a date without you knowing it. If so, you may unknowingly be falsely convinced that the neural system was right when really it keeps correcting itself. We'll see after a while if we get more changes like what happened on 10/22. I don't think you are doing it intentionally. I just want you to be aware that the neural system you are using might actually be doing that on a regular basis without you noticing.

 

[kaitlinsnana]

A long time reader/contributor to the board you say. I'm frankly puzzled. It won't be long before every Tom, Dick and Harry will have something for sale - entrepreneurlism is alive and well in TSP land.

I'll admit to being confused. Is he a longtime contributor or the "new guy". Sometimes his English is broken, sometimes perfect. He makes mistakes/corrections/whatever. I think he posts under other names even now. I'm sorry, seems very shaky to me. Hey, I love characters, I collect colorful characters because they make my life fun --- but Ek just bothers me on several levels because honesty is paramount and.... sorry, I'm waayyy not convinced.

Gail

 

[ekatteng]

tsptalk, You are totally correct. I can not change the autotracker transfers after the deadline. However I will keep the humanoid system for the statistics and the feeding with the corrected data to the neural one separate. my mistake, it had happen just once and understand it is already one too many...

Yes, we discourage that. . If it ain't on the autotracker, it isn't going to go anywhere. And he can't change the autotracker transfers after the deadline.

 

[Boxholder]

Birchtree, I hope you will be millionaire by following the Neural Network Artificial Intelligence System prognostics before I if ever ask for a token of appreciation for all the effort I am putting every day to keep the TSPtalk community wealthy... TOM, EBB, FRED, REV... Dick Harry... well deserve to charge and be compensated for their daily hard work for this TSPtalk community. I am sure you agree. You are welcome to develop your own system and put your white glove and sing beat it too...

How about it, Birch? You going to get out your white glove and microphone? Hurry up and answer him. We can hardly wait! After testing his system, if the oceanic and tug don't sink maybe he'll let you buy a partnership in his 'Artificial System'.

 

[ekatteng]

fabijo, the neural system has the capability to get zero %error but it will have to do billions of iterations and it will take days to finish... its prognostics will be after the fact... it gets feed with correct historical data... and its recognized patterns and predict the future... its continuosly trying to minimize the errors base on correct historical data. My mistake was to provide on the post the correct data instead of keeping the wrong one when the neural system gave the new prognostics with the corrected data for 10/22. It changes I to G. which is good because it is telling me that it learned something and very quick. I know that for statistical purpose we track it I as a wrong call witch it was...

ek, is it possible that while you were training the neural system, it kept correcting itself with each iteration until it came up with the only 10% wrong?

It may be possible that your neural network will change predictions after a date without you knowing it. If so, you may unknowingly be falsely convinced that the neural system was right when really it keeps correcting itself. We'll see after a while if we get more changes like what happened on 10/22. I don't think you are doing it intentionally. I just want you to be aware that the neural system you are using might actually be doing that on a regular basis without you noticing.

 

[charmed855]

ek, is it possible that while you were training the neural system, it kept correcting itself with each iteration until it came up with the only 10% wrong?

It may be possible that your neural network will change predictions after a date without you knowing it. If so, you may unknowingly be falsely convinced that the neural system was right when really it keeps correcting itself. We'll see after a while if we get more changes like what happened on 10/22. I don't think you are doing it intentionally. I just want you to be aware that the neural system you are using might actually be doing that on a regular basis without you noticing.

Good point. That's my problem with most systems that claim to be back tested versus tracked. If you don't take care to isolate the feedback loop to subsequent projections, you can easily taint the result.

fabijo, the neural system has the capability to get zero %error but it will have to do billions of iterations and it will take days to finish... its prognostics will be after the fact... it gets feed with correct historical data... and its recognized patterns and predict the future... its continuosly trying to minimize the errors base on correct historical data. My mistake was to provide on the post the correct data instead of keeping the wrong one when the neural system gave the new prognostics with the corrected data for 10/22. It changes I to G. which is good because it is telling me that it learned something and very quick. I know that for statistical purpose we track it I as a wrong call witch it was...

Given your setup, it sounds like you need to simulate each day sequentially to ensure you're not contaminating your projections with future data. If you haven't done that, you may have other instances where your feedback has altered the original projection and thus invalidated your entire system. Good luck.

 

[ekatteng]

kaitlinsnana, I fully undertand your frustration. I would be very confused myself I been on the background for a longtime and I have provided my feedbacks on private email messages an very few times openly...
I had use two names... ekatteng and lkatteng... due to password problems, I had to reopened an account. Yes my English is broken... I am US native from LA, CA but raised overseas... speak more than just English I need to take an extra effort not to confuse languages, spelling, etc... sometimes times does not allow me to do so... I would be very doubtful also... I am amaized of how the neural network artificial intelligence system works myself... and as long it is profitable and increase my TSP account why not to profit from it.
at least that is the way I see it. Please feel free to ask any questions I may be able to answer about it. Belief me I am not try to convince no one... It is just there for whoever choose to take advantage.

I'll admit to being confused. Is he a longtime contributor or the "new guy". Sometimes his English is broken, sometimes perfect. He makes mistakes/corrections/whatever. I think he posts under other names even now. I'm sorry, seems very shaky to me. Hey, I love characters, I collect colorful characters because they make my life fun --- but Ek just bothers me on several levels because honesty is paramount and.... sorry, I'm waayyy not convinced.

Gail