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Corn and Ethanol.
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Free trade.
Silverbird
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Does is work in boats yet? Last I checked it doesn't?
James48843
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Ethanol Grand Opening two weeks ago
at Norfolk, Virginia. The first E85 station in
Norfolk.
Something to think about-- It's more than just another alternative fuel- it's part of the solution to break our dependence on foreign oil. Just ask the military people at Norfolk how important it is.
at Norfolk, Virginia. The first E85 station in
Norfolk.
Something to think about-- It's more than just another alternative fuel- it's part of the solution to break our dependence on foreign oil. Just ask the military people at Norfolk how important it is.
KevinD
Well-known member
FSN In Depth: Michael C. Ruppert, Confronting Collapse
Confronting Collapse: The Crisis of Energy and Money in a Post Peak Oil World
http://www.financialsense.com/finan...-depth/michael-c-ruppert/confronting-collapse
Confronting Collapse: The Crisis of Energy and Money in a Post Peak Oil World
http://www.financialsense.com/finan...-depth/michael-c-ruppert/confronting-collapse
It's time to end the excessive subsidies for corn ethanol
Saturday, July 24, 2010
The Washington Post
Editorial
".....The fuel was supposed to free America from its dependence on foreign oil and produce fewer carbon emissions in the process. It's doing some of the former and little of the latter. But corn ethanol certainly doesn't need the level of taxpayer support it's been getting. Lawmakers are considering whether to renew these expensive subsidies; they shouldn't.
.....feds give companies that combine corn ethanol with gasoline a 45-cent tax subsidy for every gallon of corn ethanol added to gasoline.
.....The Congressional Budget Office this month estimated that, all told, the costs to taxpayers of replacing a gallon of gasoline with one of corn ethanol add up to $1.78. The tax incentives alone cost the Treasury $6 billion in 2009....."
Complete editorial at http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/23/AR2010072304345.html
Saturday, July 24, 2010
The Washington Post
Editorial
".....The fuel was supposed to free America from its dependence on foreign oil and produce fewer carbon emissions in the process. It's doing some of the former and little of the latter. But corn ethanol certainly doesn't need the level of taxpayer support it's been getting. Lawmakers are considering whether to renew these expensive subsidies; they shouldn't.
.....feds give companies that combine corn ethanol with gasoline a 45-cent tax subsidy for every gallon of corn ethanol added to gasoline.
.....The Congressional Budget Office this month estimated that, all told, the costs to taxpayers of replacing a gallon of gasoline with one of corn ethanol add up to $1.78. The tax incentives alone cost the Treasury $6 billion in 2009....."
Complete editorial at http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/23/AR2010072304345.html
nnuut
Moderator | TSP Legend
crws
Active member
I wish I lived nearer to Margaritaville, I'd bring the boiled peanuts and some chicken!
Ethanol, think Corn Whiskey with additives!
James48843
Well-known member
First, you pulled the MSDS for Methanol, not Ethanol. Big difference.
Secondly, no, ethanol has very few issues with handling. It's pretty much the same as gasoline, only not quite as bad as gasoline for you. You don't get the benzene cancer causing chemicals with ethanol that you do with gasoline.
crws
Active member
I thought that ethanol had more acute side effects than gasoline, therefore requiring an updated public awareness campaign on the dangers of unprotected skin exposure vs. the relative minimal effects of gasoline.
I was under the impression that this issue was the primary reason a slow transition was inherent, to educate the public and put forth new standards involved with i.e. u-fill fueling where there would be a minimally controlled environment by a wide variety of users.
I equated this to propane, where filling was limited to trained personnel.
I'd assume this would equate to gloves being provided at fill stations and/or some sort of a quick video or "test" where a disclaimer/acceptance would be required at the new electronic self-fill pumps for a given time until it became part of public culture, probably with MSDS awareness.
http://www.jtbaker.com/msds/englishhtml/m2015.htm
thoughts?
I was under the impression that this issue was the primary reason a slow transition was inherent, to educate the public and put forth new standards involved with i.e. u-fill fueling where there would be a minimally controlled environment by a wide variety of users.
I equated this to propane, where filling was limited to trained personnel.
I'd assume this would equate to gloves being provided at fill stations and/or some sort of a quick video or "test" where a disclaimer/acceptance would be required at the new electronic self-fill pumps for a given time until it became part of public culture, probably with MSDS awareness.
http://www.jtbaker.com/msds/englishhtml/m2015.htm
thoughts?
James48843
Well-known member
USDA produces short video on ethanol, E85
By Holly Jessen
http://www.ethanolproducer.com/article.jsp?article_id=6772
Posted July 1, 2010
Just two weeks after USDA released its “Regional Roadmap to Meeting the Biofuels Goals of the Renewable Fuels Standard,” it now has a short video, touting the importance of ethanol and other biofuels in reducing U.S. dependence on fossil fuels.
The ethanol industry needs to go national, said Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack, in the video. To build the 527 biorefineries the USDA estimates will be needed to meet the goal of 36 billion gallons by 2022, a variety of feedstocks will need to be used, depending on the strengths of that region. “It’s an opportunity for us to make sure that … ethanol is more readily available to folks in all parts of the country and all four corners of the country,” he said in the video.
USDA has also indicated that infrastructure is an important part of the success of biofuels. “There are a number of potential barriers and bottlenecks in the current ethanol use supply chain,” the report said. “While we expect the market to respond to the infrastructure needs of a growing industry, we recognize that the path from production to actual consumption presents challenges that will need to be anticipated and addressed.”
Besides additional blender pumps, the U.S. needs infrastructure to distribute ethanol by rail or truck as well as blending terminals and storage facilities.
The report also singled out California, Texas and Florida as possible primary targets for more blender pumps and flex-fuel vehicles.
By Holly Jessen
http://www.ethanolproducer.com/article.jsp?article_id=6772
Posted July 1, 2010
Just two weeks after USDA released its “Regional Roadmap to Meeting the Biofuels Goals of the Renewable Fuels Standard,” it now has a short video, touting the importance of ethanol and other biofuels in reducing U.S. dependence on fossil fuels.
The ethanol industry needs to go national, said Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack, in the video. To build the 527 biorefineries the USDA estimates will be needed to meet the goal of 36 billion gallons by 2022, a variety of feedstocks will need to be used, depending on the strengths of that region. “It’s an opportunity for us to make sure that … ethanol is more readily available to folks in all parts of the country and all four corners of the country,” he said in the video.
USDA has also indicated that infrastructure is an important part of the success of biofuels. “There are a number of potential barriers and bottlenecks in the current ethanol use supply chain,” the report said. “While we expect the market to respond to the infrastructure needs of a growing industry, we recognize that the path from production to actual consumption presents challenges that will need to be anticipated and addressed.”
Besides additional blender pumps, the U.S. needs infrastructure to distribute ethanol by rail or truck as well as blending terminals and storage facilities.
The report also singled out California, Texas and Florida as possible primary targets for more blender pumps and flex-fuel vehicles.
crws
Active member
with variants commonly used in all the various injector cleaners, FWIH.
It's an old car, so I'm not too concerned. I doubt that 4oz/15gal would have significant effect on components.
Next week I will run a full tank test without and see where my mileage ends up.
It's an old car, so I'm not too concerned. I doubt that 4oz/15gal would have significant effect on components.
Next week I will run a full tank test without and see where my mileage ends up.
FundSurfer
Well-known member
Acetone is a solvent thay may have cleaned your injectors an increased your efficiency a little. That is the only thing I can think of. I would not use it long term.
crws
Active member
Are those the same evil oil industry scientist that are making up the lies about ethanol?
