Corepuncher's Account Talk

I do not believe that this is the start of a big bear rally...YET. We are in another slow-motion crash...down 11 of last 12 days. Why would it just suddently end on a mediocre day with the VIX way down?

GE is down 10% today, someone bought a load of 2.50 June puts, suggesting the stalwart General Electric may go bankrupt??? Then you have the FDIC coming out and saying they could be insolvent this year:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=washingtonstory&sid=alsJZqIFuN3k

Not to mention 700K jobs a month being lost. Oh my! :worried:

I am keen to wait. Looks like we are having trouble getting above that 711 level...a resistence point going back to Monday...and touched each of the last 3 days. Once we get above that, if we do, 741 is way up there. Let me just say that we COULD get a short covering rally today. I would think about selling today, except for the fact I would not be able to buy in lower if we tank it this month. So, I'll wait.
 
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The stars are perfectly aligned for the big money to cause a massive "shake out." Birch...I'm sure you agree.

We have the scary "no support below 741/700"...<play scary ghost music>

We have all kinds of bad data, we have CNBC talking about S&P 400-500 based on PE's. Everything you need for a panic sell...which I think will occur soon.

Where is my 10% down day. That is only a 70 pt drop as of now...gets us to lower 600s. That is when I think the next bear rally will begin...low to mid 600s.

But it will still be a bear rally, to be sold. The lows in this market may not come for quite some time.
 
core-p:

alms to the poor over your 2007 move (look at mine last week). honestly - makes me feel better, and to keep trying.

I was fooled by the last weeks gap down open; thought dumb money moved the market high (where my IFT bought in, at 780); doubled down the next day, and bailed for a loss the following 2 days. My only regret is not going 100% G, as every fund tanked 1-5% more over the next 3 sessions.

Do you have any take on why this cycle 780-690-710, all in a fairly tight range of Vix? (43-53).

I thought Obama's housing plan was worthless; and another 75B down the drano. And what does the market do? Spike? What is that all about?

All-in-all; I think this is a deadcat, two-day pony; my lesson learned so far?

Answer: I'm either stupid or not lucky. Either way, don't like being in the red - - - and it's only March!.
 
Time for a scary post...

Seriously, this is one prediction that I wish did not happen...


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Now, read this:

Thursday, March 5. 2009


Posted by Karl Denninger in Editorial at 09:57

What's Dead (Short Answer: All Of It)

Just so you have a short list of what's at stake if Washington DC doesn't change policy here and now (which means before the collapse in equities comes, which could start as soon as today, if the indicators I watch have any validity at all. For what its worth, those indicators are painting a picture of the Apocalypse that I simply can't believe, and they're showing it as an imminent event - like perhaps today imminent.)
  • All pension funds, private and public, are done. If you are receiving one, you won't be. If you think you will in the future, you won't be. PBGC will fail as well. Pension funds will be forced to start eating their "seed corn" within the next 12 months and once that begins there is no way to recover.
  • All annuities will be defaulted to the state insurance protection (if any) on them. The state insurance funds will be bankrupted and unable to be replenished. Essentially, all annuities are toast. Expect zero, be ecstatic if you do better. All insurance companies with material exposure to these obligations will go bankrupt, without exception. Some of these firms are dangerously close to this happening right here and now; the rest will die within the next 6-12 months. If you have other insured interests with these firms, be prepared to pay a LOT more with a new company that can't earn anything off investments, and if you have a claim in process at the time it happens, it won't get paid. The probability of you getting "boned" on any transaction with an insurance company is extremely high - I rate this risk in excess of 90%.
  • The FDIC will be unable to cover bank failure obligations. They will attempt to do more of what they're doing now (raising insurance rates and doing special assessments) but will fail; the current path has no chance of success. Congress will backstop them (because they must lest shotguns come out) with disastrous results. In short, FDIC backstops will take precedence even over Social Security and Medicare.
  • Government debt costs will ramp. This warning has already been issued and is being ignored by President Obama. When (not if) it happens debt-based Federal Funding will disappear. This leads to....
  • Tax receipts are cratering and will continue to. I expect total tax receipts to fall to under $1 trillion within the next 12 months. Combined with the impossibility of continued debt issue (rollover will only remain possible at the short duration Treasury has committed to over the last ten years if they cease new issue) a 66% cut in the Federal Budget will become necessary. This will require a complete repudiation of Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, a 50% cut in the military budget and a 50% across-the-board cut in all other federal programs. That will likely get close.
  • Tax-deferred accounts will be seized to fund rollovers of Treasury debt at essentially zero coupon (interest). If you have a 401k, or what's left of it, or an IRA, consider it locked up in Treasuries; it's not yours any more. Count on this happening - it is essentially a certainty.
  • Any firm with debt outstanding is currently presumed dead as the street presumption is that they have lied in some way. Expect at least 20% of the S&P 500 to fail within 12 months as a consequence of the complete and total lockup of all credit markets which The Fed will be unable to unlock or backstop. This will in turn lead to....
  • The unemployed will have 5-10 million in direct layoffs added within the next 12 months. Collateral damage (suppliers, customers, etc) will add at least another 5-10 million workers to that, perhaps double that many. U-3 (official unemployment rate) will go beyond 15%, U-6 (broad form) will reach 30%.
  • Civil unrest will break out before the end of the year. The Military and Guard will be called up to try to stop it. They won't be able to. Big cities are at risk of becoming a free-fire death zone. If you live in one, figure out how you can get out and live somewhere else if you detect signs that yours is starting to go "feral"; witness New Orleans after Katrina for how fast, and how bad, it can get.
The good news is that this process will clear The Bezzle out of the system.
The bad news is that you won't have a job, pension, annuity, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and, quite possibly, your life.
It really is that bleak folks, and it all goes back to Washington DC being unwilling to lock up the crooks, putting the market in the role it has always played - that of truth-finder, no matter how destructive that process is.
Only immediate action from Washington DC, taking the market's place, can stop this, and as I get ready to hit "send" I see the market rolling over again, now down more than 3% and flashing "crash imminent" warnings. You may be reading this too late for it to matter.




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Now, I have a couple theories and they are why I bought more stocks today.

1) Everyone is waiting for the VIX to spike to levels like it did back in OCT/NOV. Maybe the amount of money in the market has something to do with that, and thus the VIX cannot get as high?

2) Everyone is waiting for that "woosh" day...because those are the days you buy. Well, instead of "whooshing", we are going down little by little each day...with the only two rally attemps bull traps, and failed.

3) There is the possibility they suspend mark to market, and it would spark a rally. If we crash today/or tomorrow, you know the PPT will come out and say SOMETHING.

4) The jobs report is tomorrow. You know, FEAR of something is often times worse than the actual thing you are afraid of. For that reason, I think we may close near lows today. If we do, then it's possible we get a bounce Friday.

5) Karl (above) may be right, but generally it takes the lemmings a while to realize it. SO...

I WILL BE LOOKING TO SELL VERY FAST WITH ANY RALLY. I EXPECT A RALLY BACK TO 741...ASSUMING WE STOP FALLING > 660.
 
There are 18 companies in the S&P 50 that have increased their dividends so far this year - that should provide a little confidence. We most likely are looking at selling exhaustion and have already seen periods of capitulation back in Octobeer and November. We are building a saucer bottom and simply have to remain patient and stay on the pain relief.
 
This is being implemented right now, the first stage of going to one world currency, not the "What's Dead (Short Answer: All Of It)" report.
What is happening now was agreed upon back in the 60's, some of it was finalized plans agreed to by the socialist FDR in the '30s. Kennedy was planning on telling the American people, but never got the chance.
All of this is in the library of congress although its very hard to find now, but some web searches should bring most to light.
Buy, silver, lead and gold. We are in the last days! GBYP!

http://www.moneyandmarkets.com/the-g-20s-secret-debt-solution-27996
 
Given that there is no more chart "lines" to draw on the S&P, I brought up the idea last week how the NASDAQ Nov. low may act as a support level from which to rally. The corresponding S&P level would be 680's.

Well, NASDAQ is 1299 and the NOV. low was 1295 intraday. We are sitting on the November lows for the NASDAQ. The S&P is in the 680's. Now is the time for the NASDAQ to rebound...if it does, it could be considered a successful retest of the lows.

Besides that metric, the only other thing people are going off of is P/E ratios. Given expected 50-60 dollar earnings going forward, and a historical bottom of 10-12 PE, that gives us anywhere form 500-600 to 600-720. 60 X an average 11 PE would be 660...so we could be close for the first "PE" based support level bounce and bear rally.

740 seems like a natural target and resistance level....and if we can clear it, 800 ish. That is an 8.3% to 17% rally. A 25% bear rally, which is about the limit historically, would bring us to 853.

Also, how much worse can news get? Losing 600K+ jobs per month, Citibank under a buck, talk of GE doing down, GM bankruptcy. It's time for a RRRRRRRRRRRRRALLY!

"SHOW ME THE MONEY!"
 
So what's going to stop the housing decline? Very simply, the same thing that caused the bust: affordability. We are now at historic affordability levels for home ownership. And people are buying so this too shall pass in the night. Jeremy Siegel puts fair value of 1380 on the S&P 500, which is better than 50% above the current level. I bought in too soon last fall but am ready to do some more buying.
 
So what's going to stop the housing decline? Very simply, the same thing that caused the bust: affordability. We are now at historic affordability levels for home ownership. And people are buying so this too shall pass in the night. Jeremy Siegel puts fair value of 1380 on the S&P 500, which is better than 50% above the current level. I bought in too soon last fall but am ready to do some more buying.


Mr. Siegel can buy all the spyders he wants; nobody else thinks it's worth half that. I bought in too soon 5X over the last year; I bailed each time, including last week. My retirement went up 2+% anyway last year; if I bought and held, I would have been DEAD MEAT. In fact, the pittance of equities I have makes me feel like an IDIOT for being in ANYTHING but G-fund.

Under the remote chance that the NFP number surprises tomorrow, and the market spikes 4-6%+; I have just one word of advice - the same that I gave everyone the last time the S&P reached 900 (hope you printed that one out, birchtree, it could be years before you see it again):

SELL!
 
Recent Rally Magnitudes and Time
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7/15 to 8/11 2008: 28 days/9.4%
10/27 to 11/4: 9 days/18.9%
11/21 to 1/6: 46 days/27.3%
1/20 to 1/28: 9 days/ 9.2%
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Given that these times are unprecedented, you may expect an unprecedented rally...possibly over 30%....but at least 9%.

Key Resistance levels:

Nov low = 741
683 + 9% = 744
20 day SMA = 780 (descending)
Old key level = 804
50 day SMA = 830
Old key level = 850
683 + 27% = 867

Support: P/E ratios:
Using 50 or 60$ earnings, low multiples of 10-12...

P/E 10 500-600
P/E 11 550- 660
P/E 12 600 - 720

Mean: 610...Conservative 660...already within a days move of this...

PLAN: Start scaling out of stock at 741. Save remaining 20% holdings for a catastrophic break of lower 600s...
 
New poll ya'll!

Hey I finally opened a trading account with thinkorswim. That software rocks! Gonna get it funded in a few days, and I"m also going to divert 5% of my contributions to a ROTH.
 
Hopefully we can get a rally in financials, sparked by a suspension of mark to market. If that occurs, SELL IT!

Uptrend posted this from Rueters, is that what your refering to?

"According to Reuters, a U.S. House Financial Services subcommittee is expected to hold a hearing on mark-to-market accounting rules as soon as March 12"

I really didn't plan on being in until the 12th. Maybe they'll do it sooner.

I'm always happy when I get out with any gain in this enviroment.
 
The Poll selections are spread out quite evenly. It reminds me of todays
market, as there is no strong concensus as to which direction the future
has in store for us.

We need more participants ! Come on folks, lets get your votes in ! :D
 
New poll ya'll!

Hey I finally opened a trading account with thinkorswim. That software rocks! Gonna get it funded in a few days, and I"m also going to divert 5% of my contributions to a ROTH.

Congrats CP on the trading account. Whatcha gonna be buying, stocks, ETF's, funds or a combo or even something that thinkorswim offer. Always looking for an edge in this market. :D

CP
 
Nice pick on the 3/10 rally. I also opened an trading account with USAA. 25 free trades w/i 90 days $11.95 per trade thereafter. What the heck - they're free. Bought Bank of America about 3 days ago, and Citi yesterday. Sold both today.

I haven't tallied the final pick-up but I know it was verrry good.

I'm consider gutting my TSP of all I can borrow out of it, and invest it elsewhere.
 
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