Corepuncher's Account Talk

From a Minyanville article...

It hasn’t been an easy few weeks for anyone. Days morphed together, Sunday’s have been sacrificed and the financial industry witnessed a seismic shift.

In a desperate attempt at balance, I joined my brother at the NYC Cowboy Mouth show last night. Live music was the last thing on my mind but I have one brother and life is short.

I arrived at the venue with my best attempt at a fresh face when my phone rang.

The SEC was banning short sales of financial [COLOR=blue! important][COLOR=blue! important]stocks[/COLOR][/COLOR].

As the band stepped on stage and the crowd jumped to their feet, I sat in my chair dumbfounded. The implications for the capital market structure are profound.

To be clear, I appreciate the need for market stability. Time, if you will, to sort out this mess. Nobody wants to see the market crash. It’s not good for anyone.

We warned of this possibility in front of the September corporate [COLOR=blue! important][COLOR=blue! important]debt[/COLOR][/COLOR] issuance.

The leaks were springing in the dike faster than folks in Washington could invent fingers.

The day of comeuppance arrived and something had to be done.

This, however, was a last gasp of desperation I never thought I would see.

Many on Main Street will turn on the tube and see the Dow 1000 points higher than it was yesterday. They will naturally assume that this is a good thing.

They will point to the short-sellers as modern day evil doers and offer that they got what they deserved.

While there are surely some that abused the system, they are not to blame for the structural deficiencies.

There is a difference between short-sellers and short sales.

The former makes a living on finding flawed companies, which in and of itself is a natural and healthy balance in the marketplace.

The latter is a structural process, a necessary element of how free markets work.
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It’s human nature to place blame, particularly when we don’t understand something.

Most people in the world don’t understand derivatives.

They don’t understand this has been percolating for years.

They don’t understand that there are two sides to every trade and a risk to each [COLOR=blue! important][COLOR=blue! important]reward[/COLOR][/COLOR].

We’ve monitored this for years in Minyanville as the cumulative imbalances built.

We watched as the markets were engineered.

We wondered aloud when the wheels would fall off the wagon.

The irony of the current conundrum is that many of the institutions in peril are the same companies that repackaged risk, engineered exotic products and built the derivative structure.

Hank Paulson knows this all too well for he was part of that establishment before selling his stock on a tax-free basis.

This comeuppance is, in many ways, why a new world order was being established on Wall Street. As painful as it was, it was a healthy progression towards the eventual recovery.

A bitter pill, if you will.

This unprecedented step by the government is the dawn of a new—and dare I say unfortunate—era. While it will flush a few abusive folks out of the system, it will forever alter the integrity of the free market system.

There will be many consequences.

Option markets will cease to function as [COLOR=blue! important][COLOR=blue! important]market [COLOR=blue! important]makers[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] can’t short stock against their order flow.

Many hedge funds have effectively been put out of business.

An integral layer of demand will be removed from the marketplace, creating a downside vacuum once these curbs are removed.

As Phil Erlanger said on this morning’s Buzz, it is martial law for the markets.

Kevin Depew posted a chart earlier this week drawing attention to the similarities between current day and the 1971-1976 period. I thought that was worth revisiting as we attempt to make sense of this surreal environment.

Price discovery works both ways and just as the market wrestled with risk gone awry, it must now digest the unintended consequences of this latest government action.

This is a new world, folks. Day one. The dawn of a new era and something none of us have ever seen.

The system was broken and rather than let it fix itself through time and price, history has forever been artificially altered.

It is, in many ways, uniquely sad.

Be that as it may, we must remain lucid and play the hand we’ve been dealt. To that end, I would urge Minyans to take a good, hard look at their risk and use price to their advantage.

The rising tide will lift all boats in front of a perfect storm that awaits. It may have been pushed out on the horizon but it's there.

And now it’s really mad.

R.P.

 
In summary:
Power breeds corruption - we live in a "Corrupt World"

Wasn't going to say anything but I keep thinking: If this was happening in China (exactly as it's happened here) EVERYONE and I mean EVERYONE would be posting left and right: "Look at China now!! and what they're doing"!!! "Can you believe it - those bast***; those communistic SOBs....etc. etc. etc.

To me it's better to blow it all off; live one day at a time and focus on the abunance we have.
 
Today, I feel sad...not because I was not in for a gain, but I feel as though something has died. I can't imagine there was much jubilation on Wall Street today...not as there should be with such a strong up day. There was much short covering today and it all seemed like it was orchestrated by the government, as if we have no free will anymore. When people go home this weekend to think about it, I doubt they return next week bullish....but in a way depressed. It's not the same anymore. It's sad.

Enjoy the gains while they last. Some serious trouble lay ahead. I may poke my head in for a quick gain, but it will be risky and I would like to think I would just sit in G for about 6-9 months to see what happens.


Updated Tracker COB 9/19/08

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2008 YTD Return: +10.12%
Today: +0.01%
Current Allocation: 100G
Tentative Next Move: Watch and wait. Still think October will be bad.
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I feel for ya buddy. I was hoping this market would crash and run it's natural course. But I can't fight the man or the rules, so I'll just play them as best I can. What upsets me most is that becuase of the Fed, the Technicals are out of whack and this makes it harder to read the market.
 
Today, I feel sad...not because I was not in for a gain, but I feel as though something has died. I can't imagine there was much jubilation on Wall Street today...not as there should be with such a strong up day. There was much short covering today and it all seemed like it was orchestrated by the government, as if we have no free will anymore. When people go home this weekend to think about it, I doubt they return next week bullish....but in a way depressed. It's not the same anymore. It's sad.

Enjoy the gains while they last. Some serious trouble lay ahead. I may poke my head in for a quick gain, but it will be risky and I would like to think I would just sit in G for about 6-9 months to see what happens.

We can only hope for the best ! At minimum, with such large gains over
the last two day, a smart thing to do would be a steady withdraw to lock
in those gains. Leaving it on the table would be a serious mistake. Even if
Monday ends up positive (maybe even more so). ;) Wish I was able to
enjoy the last two days, I got kicked out of the party (by you know who)
 
I am calling for an October crash...just like the good 'ole days! I need to redeem my >100 pt S&P down day I predicted earlier this year! :D

So...what happens when there are no short sellers to cover on big down days? We just keep going down. I also hear many floor traders in stocks and in bonds went broke today. Funds are blowing up, thanks to the rules changing in the middle of the game. There went some liquidity!

RED OCTOBER
 
You could be right but I think they will pull out all the stops to stave off a crash before the elections.
 
You could be right but I think they will pull out all the stops to stave off a crash before the elections.

I made this post on another thread ---

"Any company that is built around the need to add debt is in trouble," says Mark Cuban, owner of the Dallas Mavericks and founder of HDNet. He ranks 161st on The Forbes 400 this year with a net worth of $2.6 billion. "The process of deleveraging is industry agnostic. If I had the time, I would be researching every company that needs renewable and expandable debt to survive and would short the sh*t out of it."

That is why the SEC will not allow short positions !!!!!
 
I am calling for an October crash...just like the good 'ole days! I need to redeem my >100 pt S&P down day I predicted earlier this year! :D

So...what happens when there are no short sellers to cover on big down days? We just keep going down. I also hear many floor traders in stocks and in bonds went broke today. Funds are blowing up, thanks to the rules changing in the middle of the game. There went some liquidity!

RED OCTOBER

No I think this market is going up up up !!!
 
Hedge Funds will Implode. A part of me says; Good For Them ! It Deserves
Them Right ! But a bigger part of me says; Oh Boy, This Ain't Gonna Work !
:confused:
 
The shorts will be covering their positions for the next three years - some don't give in so easily, especially with a historic level of 18 billion shares short. I can't wait until October gets here - right now how many points can we gain in the next seven trading days - sling shot it.
 
The shorts will be covering their positions for the next three years - some don't give in so easily, especially with a historic level of 18 billion shares short. I can't wait until October gets here - right now how many points can we gain in the next seven trading days - sling shot it.

Compare our rally to the other countries...it was pathetic. If we don't just explode up like you suggest, it will be obvious something is wrong.

K-Fine last night said she still had short positions out on banks and DID NOT cover them during the "reaction rally". That could be a reason why we did not rally that much (in a relative sense) because THEY DO NOT BUY IT.

The dollar fell, and oil went up. Also a reason not to rally. Looking ahead, LOL! The "short selling ban" will be lifted just in time for the September Employment report! Oh that will be fun to watch. :laugh:

This just in: Bush asks for 700 billion from Congress. Already higher than the 500 b...and it will certainly go higher. By my calculations, we are already up to 1.7 TRILLION or so in bailouts and such. NICE!
 
Compare our rally to the other countries...it was pathetic. If we don't just explode up like you suggest, it will be obvious something is wrong.

K-Fine last night said she still had short positions out on banks and DID NOT cover them during the "reaction rally". That could be a reason why we did not rally that much (in a relative sense) because THEY DO NOT BUY IT.

The dollar fell, and oil went up. Also a reason not to rally. Looking ahead, LOL! The "short selling ban" will be lifted just in time for the September Employment report! Oh that will be fun to watch. :laugh:

This just in: Bush asks for 700 billion from Congress. Already higher than the 500 b...and it will certainly go higher. By my calculations, we are already up to 1.7 TRILLION or so in bailouts and such. NICE!

Funny how, just a few months ago, this was all supposed to be "contained" to a small segment of the financial sector. What's even scarier, Bernacke and Paulson may have actually believed this, even when many others outside government were laying out the cascading effects that would unfold (and did).

I did read an interesting point about Paulson the other day. I assumed he had quit Goldman-Sachs for the prestige and "higher calling" of being the Treasury Secretary. Turns out, as part of the government deal to get him to come to Treasury, he was allowed to cash out $650 million in stocks tax-free. So, at his tax rate, the government effectively paid him at least $200 million to take a cabinet post for 4 years. Pretty good payday, I'd say!
 
I did read an interesting point about Paulson the other day. I assumed he had quit Goldman-Sachs for the prestige and "higher calling" of being the Treasury Secretary. Turns out, as part of the government deal to get him to come to Treasury, he was allowed to cash out $650 million in stocks tax-free. So, at his tax rate, the government effectively paid him at least $200 million to take a cabinet post for 4 years. Pretty good payday, I'd say!
In his defense (though I still think he's too sympathetic to Wall Street), he *had* to divest himself of all those stocks all at once to take the job. Holding them would be a complete conflict of interest, and there's no way he could recuse himself from all affairs concerning Goldman Sachs and be able to be Treasury Secretary.
 
Checking the tracker today, 5 people are over 10% (I know Optionman was higher than his tracker too...could be close?). NSURF...what a whipsaw you have had! Does your neck hurt?

:) Awesome! :)
 
In his defense (though I still think he's too sympathetic to Wall Street), he *had* to divest himself of all those stocks all at once to take the job. Holding them would be a complete conflict of interest, and there's no way he could recuse himself from all affairs concerning Goldman Sachs and be able to be Treasury Secretary.


Agree - but tax-free???
 
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