coolhand's Account Talk

Frankly I don't see my haircut as a loss but rather a devaluation - I'm still collecting income from my shares and reinvesting that income into more shares. I made $300K back in 1982 in ten months but never $363K in seven weeks. I'm not cheerleading only showing how the trail is blazed - it matters not to me if no one on this MB ever gets off the sidelines - I'm making mine and that's what counts. I can wait the time interval to regain my composure and we'll see how the bull runs. Thanks for not telling me to get lost.

I find nothing wrong with your buy and hold style BT. And I would never tell anyone it can't work. But I'll tell you this, even to a buy and holder it's a matter of timing to get out of the market at an opportune time as true retirement approaches. I'm sure you've seen folks get close to retirement and lose a small fortune because they didn't know when to get conservative. I know I've seen more than one.

Not that you're in that boat. But sooner or later I would think that even you will begin to cash in your chips.

I don't want you to get lost. There are those who value your input. Including me. :D
 
As many times as I've stayed one day to many listening to BT, Ive stayed an extra couple days and made out great. Bottom line you have to make your own decisions unless you give up your password:D
Thanks CH for being here everyday. You make things a little easier by posting.
 
Even after retirement I'll still be involved with stocks - there could easily be another 20 years of bullish trends. At some point my stocks will be used as gifts to my heirs because they are controled by the step up in basis accounting rules by the IRS. I guess I'm a lifer.
 
Page One: Taking the Good over the Bad
Last Update: 29-Apr-09 08:50 ET

http://www.briefing.com/GeneralCont...me=Investor&ArticleId=NS20090429085139PageOne

The stock market will have plenty to chew on today, from another batch of earnings reports to the Q1 GDP release to the FOMC announcement. On top of that, of course, is the swine flu outbreak, which has taken on a new dimension following the first death in the U.S. -- a 23-month old child in Texas -- attributable to the swine flu.

Other items commanding added attention include a Bloomberg.com report that suggests six of the 19 banks that underwent stress tests will need to raise more capital and the latest Mortgage Bankers Association report, which showed a -18.1% decline from the prior week with a drop in applications for both purchases (-0.6%) and refinancing (-21.9%).

Generally speaking, the earnings news has been better than expected, yet the bulk of noteworthy headlines have a negative bent to them. That view notwithstanding, the futures market had a distinctly positive bias ahead of the GDP release, with indications pointing to a higher start of about 1.0%.

That indication has held up reasonably well, too, after a worse-than-expected Q1 GDP report.

First quarter real GDP dropped at a 6.1% annual rate in part because inventory contraction sliced a whopping 2.8% off the change. Real final sales, excluding inventories, fell at a 3.4% annual rate. Inventories count, though, as the lower levels reflect sharply lower production.

The bulls will grab onto the fact that real personal consumption expenditures rose at a stronger than expected 2.2% annual rate. In a typical business cycle, consumer spending picks up first, and this might be a signal of better times to come. Bears will note that the gain comes off horrible fourth quarter spending, and that January and February are light consumer months in which gains can be exaggerated by strong seasonal factors.

Our opinion is that not too much should be read into the apparent consumer strength. Unemployment is going higher, wage gains are limited, and credit remains constrained.

Separately, the business data in GDP were terrible. Investment in software and equipment fell at a 33.8% annual rate. Nonresidential construction spending (offices) fell at an amazing 44.2% annual rate. Both of these categories will continue lower. Businesses remain in retrenchment mode even if the rate of decline might slow.

Residential construction spending continued to plunge, and was down at a 38.0% annual rate. Government spending fell at a 3.9% annual rate as state spending and defense spending contracted. This was another factor in the overall weaker GDP number compared to estimates.

The analysis of the GDP data depends on whether the good consumer spending gain is seen as a leading indicator. That makes sense in normal cycles. This cycle is heavily dependent on government action and credit market conditions. Consumer spending could head down again in the second quarter, and risks remain high for the economy.

Fittingly, we'll hear more about the risk assessment in the FOMC decision at 2:15 pm ET today. The market expects the fed funds rate to remain unchanged from the target range of 0.00% to 0.25%, yet few people know entirely what to expect from the policy directive as the Fed continues to navigate in uncharted waters as it works to resuscitate the economy.
 
That was an excellent read - however I believe the market may be operating many months ahead of the economy and the market will not be derailed. The recent sideways correction is all the bears are going to get - hesitation can be expensive.
 
That was an excellent read - however I believe the market may be operating many months ahead of the economy and the market will not be derailed. The recent sideways correction is all the bears are going to get - hesitation can be expensive.

Your basic premise is correct, however it is beyond a stretch to surmise that we are only headed up from here. The overall volume we've seen to get prices where they are in the current rally is only one third to one half of what would normally be expected. In other words, volume has been decidedly light to reach current prices over the last 7 weeks. The depth of fraud and corruption on a global scale and how it is going to translate into a timeline for recovery is completely up in the air. Only now we are beginning to see action being taken by those affected overseas against the banks who caused this debacle in the first place. I wonder how that's going to play out? So far, these problems have only been addressed domestically. The international picture has yet to resolve itself.
 
Things could continue to get silly to the upside for the next few days. Having said that, we may need to be reminded that the current rally may not be indicative of our economy "turning the corner" as the men behind the curtain would have us believe. While there may be some areas of the economy showing some improvement, there's still a whole lot of unknowns as well as areas that are still on the decline (i.e. jobs, credit defaults, etc.).

http://www.hussmanfunds.com/wmc/wmc090427.htm
 
You know what would be the silliest situation of all - if the SPX blew from 900 right back to 1300 in a months time like it did on the downside last year in September. Yes, we could have a silly party that no one attended unless you like to play with silly putty. Now that would be a silly party I'd attend.
 
Coolhand,

Bernanke is inflating the market to preclude a deflation spiral.

President Obama's actions will have a negative long term affect. No affect right now.

So, this mini-market bull might last till it reaches the level of a normal correction rather than a crash. Then, we have to watch Bernanke. His actions will be nice and slow. The light trading is probably a result of speculators, day traders, and grandpa getting washed out. This volume might be the new standard, eh...
 
Coolhand,

Bernanke is inflating the market to preclude a deflation spiral.

President Obama's actions will have a negative long term affect. No affect right now.

So, this mini-market bull might last till it reaches the level of a normal correction rather than a crash. Then, we have to watch Bernanke. His actions will be nice and slow. The light trading is probably a result of speculators, day traders, and grandpa getting washed out. This volume might be the new standard, eh...

I can only speculate. This market is not like any other, so it's not a given that it will follow any particular patterns. Manipulation is always part of the game.

I'm not bearish per se, but I do try to be a realist. Emotion is still very much a part of the game too, and as soon as da boyz think they've got enough folks leaning one way, out comes the hammer.
 
... as soon as da boyz think they've got enough folks leaning one way, out comes the hammer.
I totally agree, with an 'amen, brother'. But I can't help noticing that the SS signal is moving further away from a sell. Which I should have paid attention to BEFORE I went to the Garage, rather than after. :laugh:

Lady
 
It's May, Time to Go Away?
Last Update: 01-May-09 08:51 ET

http://www.briefing.com/GeneralCont...me=Investor&ArticleId=NS20090501085339PageOne

There was a time in early March when we called attention to the extreme sense of negativity in the stock market and cited it as one reason to think we were in store for a meaningful rally. That view proved prescient, but as much as we were struck by the level of negativity then, we are now struck by the level of optimism now.

We concur with the view that the economic data, and earnings news, have signaled that the economy is in a bottoming process. However, the market is showing a propensity these days to view everything with rose-colored glasses and that perspective often coincides with near-term tops in the market.

The difference of opinion today, versus early March, is that we don't expect there to be a selloff that would match the magnitude of the recent rally. Conditions are better on a number of fronts. Credit spreads have narrowed considerably, commodity prices have risen, companies have regularly beaten too depressed earnings estimates and, as noted above, there is a growing body of economic evidence that suggests the worst of the downturn is behind the market.

On this latter point, CNBC is quoting Warren Buffett today as saying there is no longer an economic Pearl Harbor, but that the war isn't over. That is an interesting comment, especially since it took nearly four years after Pearl Harbor for World War II to end.

In any event, we have our concerns about the pace of consumer spending in the months ahead as the unemployment rate continues to rise and consumers show a newfound appreciation for saving money as opposed to spending beyond their means. The housing market, while showing signs of stabilization, is a long way from recovery, too, and the recent rise in Treasury rates isn't helping there.

Judging by the numerous reports from major banks about deteriorating credit quality, there is a basis still to be skeptical, particularly since unemployment is headed higher.

So, we worry that the market is starting to get carried away with the recovery trade since it seems to be looking at things as if this is a normal economic cycle -- and it isn't.

Last week we recommended investors take some profits from the run off the March lows and averred that the market was going to be entering a consolidation phase that we thought would be mostly lateral for two reasons: (1) investor advisor sentiment data still wasn't showing extreme bullish readings and (2) we felt there was an institutional bid sitting under the market from managers who missed this rally but who are anxious to buy on weakness so that they are in position to capitalize on possible further gains.

Things have pretty much played out as expected in this respect. In the ensuing period, the S&P 500 has gained less than 4 points entering today's trade.

Once again this week we have seen the market draw support from the "bottoming-out" trade. However, the point to be made is that the market hasn't really gotten anywhere on that trade. It has been a supportive factor, but it hasn't been a distinctly uplifting factor like weeks past.

As noted above, we aren't looking for a material selloff now. We think it is prudent, though, for investors to trim positions in holdings that have enjoyed outsized gains during the rally.

As we look ahead, our concern lies in an expectation that a wait-and-see attitude permeates the market and it goes sideways for an extended period as investors aim to confirm through the economic data, and earnings commentary, that recent signs of recovery aren't temporary.

If things take shape in an economic manner that suggest 2010 estimates need to come down significantly, it could be a painful discounting period again for the market. We hate to use the cliche, but time will tell.

Seasonally, the market is entering what has historically been a less-than-thrilling period for investors; hence, the expression "sell in May and go away." This time around, though, we could see a variation on that perspective.

Given the wait-and-see attitude we think is going to take shape, the spin quite simply could be, "It's May, go away."

As of this posting, the S&P is indicated to start the session about 2 points higher.
 
Excellent comments from an experienced trader:

"I'm an old time Bear. At its start, I built my newsletter career on being Bearish. Since we were in a Bull market back then (the 90's), I had to learn some painful lessons.

The first one is that tops take time. When folks have tons of "reasons" to be Bearish, tops take even longer to build.

The second thing I've learned is that top-building first gives Bears hope by giving them some quick declines that encourage holding shorts, but that are sloppily reversed. That sloppiness only serves to make the Bears stubborn. They can see the low quality of the rally. They can remember how well-rewarded Bears were in the midst of the Bear market and they won't be snookered again.

The third thing I've learned is that the second thing I learned will continue until the Bears are worn out. When the decline finally comes, they'll be so drained, they'll take the first profit they get, leaving the lion's share of the real decline on the table.

Try not to get short too early and try not to let yourself get worn down before this thing corrects in earnest."


Of course, the opposite is also true when buying dips in a declining market.
 
Gaming the System
Last Update: 05-May-09 08:50 ET

http://www.briefing.com/GeneralCont...me=Investor&ArticleId=NS20090505085151PageOne

The S&P 500 topped 900 yesterday and reporters on the floor of the NYSE fought to hide their excitement, forgetting to put things in their proper context by mentioning that we're still roughly 670 points, or 42%, away from the all-time high. Then again, if things keep going at their current rate, we'd reclaim that lost ground by November.

We don't expect a return to the all-time high anytime soon, yet there is no denying that the rally from the March 6 low has been robust on the return side of things, particularly for the financial stocks. At yesterday's close, the S&P 500 stood 36% above the March low while the S&P 500 financial sector was 100% above its March low.

Once again, the market told anyone, or any company, bringing bad news to tell it to the hand. It clearly didn't want to hear it since it had nothing but recovery on its mind.

That attitude, while admirable, felt a bit too cavalier to this market watcher who sensed Monday's advance was grounded more in a game of squeezing short sellers than it was on making a strong commitment of investment money.

Granted the pending home sales and construction spending reports were better than expected. That was good news and should have put a bid in the market, but given the rising unemployment, the rising vacancy rates, and the rising defaults on commercial real estate loans, it's a stretch to take those monthly increases for granted as the start of something big.

The latter view aside, Fed Chairman Bernanke appears before the Joint Economic Committee at 10:00 ET today to discuss the economic outlook. We suspect he will follow form with the recent FOMC directive, which conveyed a sense the economy isn't as bad as it looked several months ago.

The market could take some solace from this view, even though it wouldn't be new.

At the same time, the ISM Services Index will be released. It is expected to print at 42.2, which is above the March level of 40.8. The dividing line between expansion and contraction here is 50, so a consensus print wouldn't mean the ISM Services sector is expanding, but rather that it is contracting at a slower pace than before.

We're not sure how the market will react to these events. They should fit with the bottoming-out view that, frankly, isn't as serendipitous as it used to be. Mindful of this, we'd take the opportunity to take some money off the table from stocks that have enjoyed outsized gains during the spring rally.

At the moment, the S&P 500 is indicated to start the session about 0.6% lower.
 
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