coolhand's Account Talk

Almost a `ditto' :
I bought this place in Aug '92, paid it off last summer ...
-and my car the year before.
Thank you, Dave Ramsey - and all the posters here for their comments, directly or indirectly...:D
-so now I get to use my FERS and part of my TSP deposits to fund my health & LTC insurances !!! :(

Went to see D.R. in PDX last month. He puts on a lively presentation!
I recommend!
YOU'RE DEBT FREEEEEEE !!!!!!!!
Congrats!
 
I'm very well aware of what the crooks did, of course. Although thanks for the bringing up the pension aspect. Amazing how tangled this thing is. I don't have any ties to banks. And I've belonged to NFCU since 1980.

And you hit the crux of what upsets me the most. The fact that they refuse to go after the crooks and instead go after the taxpayer. George Carlin had it right.

George has a potty mouth folks, so if you don't like potty mouths you may not want to watch this.

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/894932/

I know the pension thing firsthand:

If you read the "Notice of Critical Status" I received last year that said I will loose almost a third of my retirement payment if I retire while our
United Food and Commercial Workers plan is in crisis, on page 2, 3rd paragraph, you will see the header "Employer Surcharges", which in summary
states- the employers have a binding contractual agreement to pick up the primary tab of a pension funding shortfall.

Now fast forward to http://www.minneapolisfed.org/publications_papers/pub_display.cfm?id=4614 , 5th paragraph of the "David Meets Goliath"
section, which states, in part:

"For example, the system is legally required to make all actuarially required contributions, according to Stella, and it carries an enforcement stick just in case.
If participating local governments choose not to fork over their calculated amounts, the plan can simply grab it out of that locale’s state aid.
WRS also has the authority to increase employer and employee contributions without legislative approval. It did so recently, increasing both rates by 0.6 percent."

Wisconsin- had one of the best according to the Minneapolis Fed:
Isn't that what you would want from your pension fund manager?
Yet in the pension world, this modesty would be the envy of plans across the country. While pension plans are almost universally underfunded at the moment, some plans have weathered the storm better than others.

In the district, two plans at opposite ends of the spectrum stand out: the Wisconsin Retirement System, with $80 billion in assets, and the city of Sioux Falls, S.D., which sponsors two separate plans for general workers and firefighters, and has assets of about $350 million.

In each case, these pensions are hard-wired to keep fiduciary responsibilities front and center. They offer modest benefits and make required contributions that keep the actuaries happy; each has a more conservative investment expectation than its peers and a few unique wrinkles to protect members and taxpayers from catastrophic events.

We need more Georges.
That's a great clip.
 
Euro Advances From Three-Week Low on Growth Outlook; Norway's Krone Gains

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...n-concern-aid-for-greece-will-be-delayed.html

Kocherlakota Sees Fed Funds Rate Increase as First Step in Stimulus Exit

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...s-policy-makers-should-raise-rates-in-11.html

Oil Drops Below $100 a Barrel, Gasoline Tumbles, After U.S. Supplies Surge

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...-three-on-projected-gain-in-u-s-supplies.html

Little Guys Are Everywhere in the New Rajaratnam World of Insider Trading

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...-new-rajaratnam-world-of-insider-trading.html

Taliban Attacks Dim U.S. Hopes Bin Laden’s Killing May Hasten Afghan Exit

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...n-laden-s-killing-may-hasten-afghan-exit.html

Investors Shifting to Cash From Commodities

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...mmodities-as-outlook-dims-in-global-poll.html

Fund Titan Found Guilty

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...17060246641834.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories

Trial Win Adds to Momentum in Crackdown

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...89223870653388.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories

Bill Proposes Mortgage Shake-Up

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...8112278.html?mod=WSJ_NY_RealEstate_LEFTBucket

Bernanke: Big Financial Firms Need More Regulation

http://www.cnbc.com/id/42996082

Commodity Flash Crash Part Two As Senators Demand Immediate Position Limits In Crude

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/co...nators-demand-immediate-position-limits-crude

"The People Vs. Goldman Sachs" - Taibbi's Magnum Opus

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/people-vs-goldman-sachs-taibbis-magnum-opus

Next Up: A Crackdown on Outside-Expert Firms

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/05/11/next-up-a-crackdown-on-outside-expert-firms/?ref=business

Euro meltdown eclipses UK travails

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...07986/Euro-meltdown-eclipses-UK-travails.html
 
Coolhand,
I understand it will take a long time to come back I’m in the same boat with two houses, but the value will come back eventually. So we both have a choice sell at a loss or hold on and make a profit. I’m lucky I live in one house and rent the other one. I’m going to hold on to both till the housing market turns around. Things might turn around quicker than you think. Good luck Coolhand and thanks for your insight.

Markmars, you're trying to use an age old adage that died more than 20 years ago. It could be true if our equity was portable the way it used to be, but it's not. And never it the history of real estate have so many been set back so many years.

Let's put this in perspective. At my current mortgage payment rate, I would not even break even until my 20th year into my mortgage. That is not normal, nor should it be!

Not to mention that today's work environment requires many people to be mobile. People transfer jobs. Ever hear about the book "Who Moved My Cheese"?

Folks, this problem affects people in more ways than you may realize. And anecdotes are poor substitutes for justice when people have been cheated. Please don't make believe this is a non-problem. I spent 25 years in the military making paltry wages and was never able to afford a house. Then my wife divorces me as I get set to retire, which reduced my retirement by half. Now I buy my first house and I'm forced to sit on it for an indeterminate period of time because it's value is crashing. I have other reasons why I need to move, such as paying $1,400 last year in toll charges so my wife could get to work. And my HOA is talking about hitting us with special assessments to pay the bills. Many folks are already withholding their dues and about 25% of the homes in my neighborhood sit empty. There's few receipts to pay those bills, and now I'm going to get hit with special assessments???

If you were fortunate enough to not be affected by this housing debacle, count your blessings. Not all of us deserve what we got.
 
Yeah, I know. For almost 5 years now the value on my home has gone in one direction. I keep thinking the bottom has to be around the corner, but I'm no longer sure of that. I'm not sure the rental market is a solution for me either. There's a guy I work with who has 10 rental properties and he's been having a lot problems with not just valuations, but tenants not paying their rent. Not to mention damage to properties (he just fixed damage from a kitchen fire last month).

My biggest concern now is the HOA. You never know where that agenda may go. No shortage of horror stories either. Lawyers in that segment of the profession say it's the biggest complaint they hear.

Although I can't imagine they can do too much damage with so many empty homes. And many who still live in my neighborhood have limited means to support assessments. Things could get real interesting in the months ahead.

Thanks for the reply and not taking me the wrong way. I'm just a little frustrated is all. :o
Coolhand,
I understand it will take a long time to come back I’m in the same boat with two houses, but the value will come back eventually. So we both have a choice sell at a loss or hold on and make a profit. I’m lucky I live in one house and rent the other one. I’m going to hold on to both till the housing market turns around. Things might turn around quicker than you think. Good luck Coolhand and thanks for your insight.
 
When I made my first trip to the North Carolina mountains looking for property back in 2005, I met a couple from Florida that were buying two 5 acre lots for $500K each. I said then it must be nice to have that kind of cash - they said they were buying on credit and unknowlingly right at the real estate market top.The development went backrupt with no infrastructure completed - how'd you like to have their problem. The place was called River Rock. They had the bright idea that they could flip the properties for a nice profit. I told my realtor that I left my checkbook at home and was just putting boots on the ground while I got a feel for the area. I don't buy anything based on emotion but there is now plenty of inventory available and I'm going back this fall again and plan to talk with a few local bankers.
 
I know folks right here where I work that bought near the top. At least when I had my house built I locked in the price back in Oct 2002. Several years before the insanity peaked. My father-in-law bought a home in North Port, FL more than 20 years ago for $59K. I just checked Zillow and it's now valued at $63.5K. And it's still dropping. My brother got slammed in CT back in the early 90's after buying a townhome in a new development. It was near the peak of that particular cycle and the market dove before too many were ever sold. He lost about $90K on that deal in less than 1 year as that development died. :blink:

When I made my first trip to the North Carolina mountains looking for property back in 2005, I met a couple from Florida that were buying two 5 acre lots for $500K each. I said then it must be nice to have that kind of cash - they said they were buying on credit and unknowlingly right at the real estate market top.The development went backrupt with no infrastructure completed - how'd you like to have their problem. The place was called River Rock. They had the bright idea that they could flip the properties for a nice profit. I told my realtor that I left my checkbook at home and was just putting boots on the ground while I got a feel for the area. I don't buy anything based on emotion but there is now plenty of inventory available and I'm going back this fall again and plan to talk with a few local bankers.
 
Just checking in from time to time. Market looks to be in correction mode. I'm out looking for S&P and Nasdaq 7-9 percent correction from here. See ya'll in two weeks. Cheers!
 
If it wasn't for POMO, I'd embrace that degree of correction. My signals are also suggesting weakness in the intermediate term. But POMO is a tough issue for the bears. It's like running into the wind.

Just checking in from time to time. Market looks to be in correction mode. I'm out looking for S&P and Nasdaq 7-9 percent correction from here. See ya'll in two weeks. Cheers!
 
As I see it they can only borrow from the "G" Fund because it's US Securities (bonds), Not the other funds "C", "S", "F", "I", CSRS or FERS.
 
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