Bull Pen - Fall 2006

Folks,

Sorry, If what I said before was confusing....I was trying to rush in a quick response under the bell.

The DWCP and DWCPF both are indexs of the same set of stocks (which is why I said they are virtually identical). They both mirror the Wilshire 4500 index which is every stock in the NYSE minus the stocks of S&P 500. However, the weighting (the percentage of the total fund invested in each individual stock of each company) within the portfolios are slightly different, which is why they have slightly different prices. The data is NOT interchangable, but they both measure the same thing (almost - but good enough for our purposes).

Does that make sense?
 
....The DWCP and DWCPF both are indexs of the same set of stocks (which is why I said they are virtually identical). They both mirror the Wilshire 4500 index which is every stock in the NYSE minus the stocks of S&P 500. However, the weighting (the percentage of the total fund invested in each individual stock of each company)

There is a mistake in this comment - the Wilshire 4500 is not a composite of the NYSE.

Understanding the difference is a question that has come up several times, so check out the S-fund section, I'm going to put a new thread there and explain this in detail.
 
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Watch out...I'm Darth Griffin now :D

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The pucker factor was way up today and I won’t be surprised if it continues into the next couple of days. I came very close to switching over to the G-fund today but ultimately decided to hold because of something I said a few days ago about three probable courses of action as the S&P 500 moves through the zone of the 1st half of the years channel.

The three options I presented were:

Option 1. the market punches through without stopping
Option 2. the market shifts to the old channel
Option 3. the market collapses and we get a major pullback

Today looked like option 3 was going to happen, however, the current channel survived, which is why I ultimately decided to hold. Let me explain my thought process further:

Option 1. Remains viable as long as the current channel stays intact
Option 2. There are two ways the market could make this transition,
2a. by either dropping down through the current channel but finding support at the old channel.
2b. by moving sideways until it leaves the current channel.

I don’t really see 2a as being viable, I see this as leading to option 3 – pullback. So if I see the market breakdown on high volume and high volatility, I am going to get out. However, as long as option 1 remains viable, I really don’t want to get out unless I absolutely have too – which means only if a pullback is eminent. If after a few days, we move sideways out of the current channel, then I will be much more likely to punch out on a day like today. If we do transition from the current channel to the old channel, the initial few days are going to be the most likely candidates in which a pullback would occur. At this stage of the game, I have absolutely no intention of trying to do short term timing.

If we move into the old channel and it is able to reestablish itself, then I would be more likely to start trying to time again. Which brings me to my last little point. The dollar index made another drop and is starting to get precariously close to the bottom of it’s current channel. Again, I will not leave the S-fund as long as the current channel is intact (and the dollar index stays in it’s channel), but if we do move sideways into the old channel, the I-fund becomes an option I will strongly consider.

I apologize for not explaining all this today, but I didn’t have the time.
 
Option 1. Remains viable as long as the current channel stays intact
Option 2. There are two ways the market could make this transition,
2a. by either dropping down through the current channel but finding support at the old channel.
2b. by moving sideways until it leaves the current channel.

The options shown on the image are backwards from the text. the image should show 2a and 3 on the down arrow and 2b as the up and to the right arrow.
 
I thought I was clever when I managed to insert a picture. I did that from home and now that I'm at work, our ultra secret squirrel super crypto network has blocked it. I'm not really suprised, I have problems accessing military site's that are on the same network. Oh well, I'll stick to the graphics at night, hopefully you all don't have the same problem.
 
You don't need a host.

Attach a picture the way that you have been by going to the manage attachments section below the message creation box. After picture is uploaded, close the attachments box. Next click on the paper clip icon in the message creation box to bring up a drop down menu with your uploaded files. Click on the filename for your picture and it gets inserted into the body of your message.

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LOL.....thanks.....I don't need the wrath of god....I won't ask again:D

OK, I'm going to revisit the post that started this and hopefully get it right this time with a bonus comment :nuts:

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The pucker factor was way up yesterday and I won’t be surprised if it continues into the next couple of days. I came very close to switching over to the G-fund today but ultimately decided to hold because of something I said a few days ago about three probable courses of action as the S&P 500 moves through the zone of the 1st half of the years channel.

The three options I presented were:

Option 1. the market punches through without stopping
Option 2. the market shifts to the old channel
Option 3. the market collapses and we get a major pullback

Today looked like option 3 was going to happen, however, the current channel survived, which is why I ultimately decided to hold. Let me explain my thought process further:

Option 1. Remains viable as long as the current channel stays intact
Option 2. There are two ways the market could make this transition,
2a. by either dropping down through the current channel but finding support at the old channel.
2b. by moving sideways until it leaves the current channel.

I don’t really see 2a as being viable, I see this as leading to option 3 – pullback. So if I see the market breakdown on high volume and high volatility, I am going to get out. However, as long as option 1 remains viable, I really don’t want to get out unless I absolutely have too – which means only if a pullback is eminent. If after a few days, we move sideways out of the current channel, then I will be much more likely to punch out on a day like today. If we do transition from the current channel to the old channel, the initial few days are going to be the most likely candidates in which a pullback would occur. At this stage of the game, I have absolutely no intention of trying to do short term timing.

If we move into the old channel and it is able to reestablish itself, then I would be more likely to start trying to time again. Which brings me to my last little point. The dollar index made another drop and is starting to get precariously close to the bottom of it’s current channel. Again, I will not leave the S-fund as long as the current channel is intact (and the dollar index stays in it’s channel), but if we do move sideways into the old channel, the I-fund becomes an option I will strongly consider.

Here's the bonus comment: When it comes to the Fed and the stock market, there is a wishful thinkng move, a status quo (or OK) move and a bad move. For example, January to March, no hike was wishful thinking, a quarter point hike was status quo...but a half point was bad (we never got one of these), then in April and May, a quarter point was bad and no hike was OK (a drop was wishful thinking), but we continued to get hikes. It was after two of these that finally sent the market into a fit. If you follow this logic through the rest of the summer, you see that the market can sustain positive momentum for a couple of bad moves. Industry/media always tries to lead the fed where it want's it to go so it is always ahead of the game in saying what is status quo and what is bad.

Now we are back in the situation where a hike is bad, no move is status quo and a drop is wishful thinking. However, Industry wants us to believe that a drop is status quo and no move is bad. There argument is the housing market and the foreclosure rate. It takes time for the market to transition and I do not believe we are at the point where a no move is bad. This is why I do not believe a pullback is upon us. I also recognize that I may be wrong, so I am keeping an eye out for it.
 
As of 1:45 this has turned into a Clint Eastwood flick - the good, the bad and the ugly.

The current channel is still intact.....but barely. You may want to refresh your memory on the location of the eject button.
 
I don't know what to say other then yesterday was weird....I have an uneasy feeling about what's going on. You would think the crude inventories report from yesterday would have offset some of the OPEC/Oil fears. Couple that with the overall good earnings reports and with the jobless report coming in at 299K (the expected was 310K) that the market would be ready to pick itself up today.

That sideways move I mentioned yesterday is starting to look more like a reality. I still want to see some green, even if it's only a couple tenths of a percent, in order to stay in. If the market is in the red going into the noon deadline, I will probably punch out. I might miss a big day by getting out, but this is quickly becoming a function of risk versus reward.
 
A lot of subtle things happening today. The DWCP has dropped out of the current channel as of this morning. The Dollar has dropped out of it's current channel (finally getting that weakness I've been waiting for). The S&P is holding it's channel. In the international world, most of european channels are intact, except Britian, with a break to the downside, but a good recovery in progress. Japan is at a mid point that has been a turning point from downtrends in the past (so it could break to the upside).

Given all this, I am looking at cutting the S-fund loose in favor of the I-fund. However, if things look rocky for the S&P500 going into the deadline, I will still move to the G (I still don't like the F at this point). As long as the S&P holds, the rest of the world will probably be OK. Unfortunately, we won't know or have time to react to OPEC.
 
After two long hard days of fighting, it looks like the Bears are throwing in the towel.

In my opinion, they have until tomorrow morning to throw a hail mary, otherwise it's game over. Bulls win.

The reason I say this, is that no news is good news for the bulls.....and there is no real news tomorrow.

Next week is all about housing and the fed - which have pretty much become "one in the same" these days. I really don't expect any housing shocker's but I don't expect the fed to drop either.

Now that the channel's from this exceptional growth are falling apart, I see the market drifting into a pattern more consistent with the first half of the year.

I moved into the I-fund today.....the dollar crossed the line (86.6.....like I said a few days ago, I'll pat myself on the back on that one) and is in a pancake spin. The foreign markets see this, and I expect a few good days out of them.
 
This is getting annoying, I still think we have another rally in this. I'm holding onto my "I" for now and waiting on a couple of dollar drops....if nothing else.
 
This is getting annoying, I still think we have another rally in this. I'm holding onto my "I" for now and waiting on a couple of dollar drops....if nothing else.


I was looking at small caps and maybe a 5th wave rally and end game. Could take us to new highs. Now how much pull-back will we get if it comes at the end of wave 5? Any thoughts? Not many sellers these days!
 
I was looking at small caps and maybe a 5th wave rally and end game. Could take us to new highs. Now how much pull-back will we get if it comes at the end of wave 5? Any thoughts? Not many sellers these days!

I think small caps are undervalued, and we will see more good stuff out of the S-fund once we get through these indecisive days. The bears have got to capitulate soon, but like Tom mentioned in his comment's, the AAII is getting overly bullish. If we get a wave 5, it needs to happen soon, before we get to many more bulls (I'm hoping Monday or Tuesday).

I have not had any success in trying to master the whole Elliot wave thing. But it seems that a wave 5 that takes us to the top of the S&P 500's channel from the first half of the year, could give the corrective waves within the that channel. If that happens, we do not get a significant pullback at all, just a series of annoying corrections.

How's that for optimism?!
 
I think small caps are undervalued, and we will see more good stuff out of the S-fund once we get through these indecisive days. The bears have got to capitulate soon, but like Tom mentioned in his comment's, the AAII is getting overly bullish. If we get a wave 5, it needs to happen soon, before we get to many more bulls (I'm hoping Monday or Tuesday).

I have not had any success in trying to master the whole Elliot wave thing. But it seems that a wave 5 that takes us to the top of the S&P 500's channel from the first half of the year, could give the corrective waves within the that channel. If that happens, we do not get a significant pullback at all, just a series of annoying corrections.

How's that for optimism?!

Griffin,

Thanks for your comments. I'm just a novice on TA work, but I follow Carl Swenlin closely for is work. Your YTD returns proves your work is more then luck.

Take Care!

I always enjoy reading your posts. Is wheels gone now, and not much from Birchtree these days?



Windsock Versus Crystal Ball
by Carl Swenlin

For several months these articles have included a reminder that "Technical analysis is a windsock, not a crystal ball." To clarify, a windsock is used to ascertain the current wind direction and intensity. A crystal ball is used to predict the future. As a practical matter, if we make decisions in response to known market conditions, we are operating in a mode that will allow us to adjust our stance as conditions change. Conversely, if we position ourselves based upon a prediction about the future, we are stuck with defending that prediction until it comes true or sticking with it until we lose enough that we are forced to capitulate.

Market action during the period from May 2006 to the present serves as a prime example of how the crystal ball can get cracked. During the decline from the May top it was broadly accepted that the bull market top was finally in place and that a major decline was beginning. The rally out of the summer lows was viewed as a short-term technical bounce in the context of a longer-term decline. The bears held fast. As prices approached the level of the May top, hope was born that a bearish double top was forming. The bears held fast . . . until the last three weeks of rally left the bears with little on which to hang their hats.


http://www.decisionpoint.com/ChartSpotliteFiles/061020_OB.html
 
The stock market isn't going to pullback until hell freeze's over or Bryant kick's a 61 yard field goal........................uh oh.:(
 
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