Re: Birchtree's account talk
A large portion of bear market loses occur while investors are still denying the probability of a recession. By the time that a recession is well recognized, significant damage has already been inflicted. The basic feature of bear markets is that they maintain the hope of investors all the way down. I think the correction is over. The last time we had a better than a 10% correction was in 2002. From November 29 th through March 12, 2003 the Dow dropped 15.1%, closing at 7552. The bull market that survived that test went up 3,000 points after that. I rode the S fund until Feb.'04.
From TWSJ by Peter McKay - 11/28
"Wall Street has recently gone from expecting a 12% rise in fourth quarter S&P profits to a modest 1.7% gain. No surprise, the financial sector has suffered the biggest downgrade in expectations, from a 10% gain to a 26% decline, roughly the same as the sector's third-quarter results.
Expectations for the consumer discretionary sector, which includes everything from automakers to home builders to luxury retailers, also have fallen sharply. But analysts are still looking for a hefty 13% rise in fourth quarter profits from the sector. Thompson research director Mike Thompson says the numbers seem to reflect the widely held belief that everyday Americans' purchasing power has remained robust because low unemployment so far has helped cushion the blow from falling home prices.
If the fourth-quarter turns out to be a second straight quarter of declining profits, it would constitute an "earnings recession", according to the same standard that economists use to judge the broader economy when they look for two straight periods of declining output.
The last time there was such a profit downturn, it lasted for more than a year, from the beginning of 2001 to early 2002. During that period, the S&P plummeted more than 13%, and the overall economy briefly tipped into recession as well." History will not repeat.
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