Are We There Yet?

It was certainly a rewarding day for the bulls as the major indexes began with a large gap higher at the open and never looked back, eventually closing at the high of the day.

Of course we have to assign a reason for this exuberant rally and the word on the street is that it was due to a denial by China about possible reviews of European debt holdings.

Okay...so China gave a confidence boost to the EU's financial problems by not adding to their woes? This is the same China who's economic model and associated fiscal health is held in such high esteem, right?

Okay, got it. :rolleyes:

So all Europe's major bourses did was rally in excess of 3%, while the euro posted a 1.5% gain against the dollar.

And of course our own domestic market followed suit with more than 98% of the stocks in the S&P 500 closing in positive territory.

Volume was about average on the NYSE, but advancing volume had a near 10-to-1 advantage over declining volume.

And guess where the S&P is sitting? About 2 points from its 200-day moving average around 1105. Technical analysts will tell you we need to break and close above that mark to consider this rally more than a bearish upthrust.

On the economic data front, the second estimate for first quarter GDP was posted at 3.0%, down from the 3.2% advance estimate and below the 3.3% increase that was expected.

Initial jobless claims for the week was a bit above expectations, while continuing claims saw a modest drop.

So where does the Seven Sentinels sit after this big rally? Here they are:

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Both signals remain on a buy with higher readings. Of particular note is that NYMO blasted past its 28 day EMA, which according to the newest SS parameters, puts it in a buy condition too.

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Still on buys here.

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Big time buys here, but showing short term overbought conditions.

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Still on a sell, but very close to initiating a buy.

And that's the only hold out, so the SS remain on a sell. Unfortunately, if this is a turn we can be at even higher levels before the SS finally give a buy signal. This has been a problem for some time given the volatility of this market. Last year a turn like this meant much higher prices on the way, but the last buy signal came on a spike higher that whipsawed the SS into a buy, only to collapse right after. The difference now is that we are bouncing off much lower levels, but that scenario does not guarantee anything.

Overall, I do believe we are turning. I am still 100% S fund and will obviously hold my position given today's action. Sentiment will probably be key as to whether we move higher or not. That's it for this evening, see you tomorrow.
 
hi coolhand

I was just comparing the old SS vs the new SS, trying to get a feel for the differences between them. Looks like the old SS uses EMA 6, except for the trin and trinq, (EMA 13), and the bpcompq is compared to its BB. Whereas the new SS uses all EMA 5, except for the bpcompq, which is compared to its EMA 3.

I am guessing that this would make the new SS a "faster" signal compared to the old SS, but possibly more prone to whipsawing? THe other issue is that IYB also uses "context", which I interpret as "what is the long term trend"? Was wondering if you have any thoughts on this. Also do you still follow the old SS?

Any thoughts appreciated,
 
mdszj;bt1524 said:
hi coolhand

I was just comparing the old SS vs the new SS, trying to get a feel for the differences between them. Looks like the old SS uses EMA 6, except for the trin and trinq, (EMA 13), and the bpcompq is compared to its BB. Whereas the new SS uses all EMA 5, except for the bpcompq, which is compared to its EMA 3.

I am guessing that this would make the new SS a "faster" signal compared to the old SS, but possibly more prone to whipsawing? THe other issue is that IYB also uses "context", which I interpret as "what is the long term trend"? Was wondering if you have any thoughts on this. Also do you still follow the old SS?

Any thoughts appreciated,

I use the original parameters. Context is an important element in ascertaining the validity of a signal. IYB uses context just as you mentioned, but context can be applied in other ways too, such as current market behavior (green Mondays) or using some aspect of sentiment.

I have found that the new SS parameters do not deviate much from the original when determining buy and sell signals. But one parameter (the 28 day NYMO EMA) is a good differentiator.

I am still using bollinger bands on BPCOMPQ to assess buy and sells. Last night I found that we were very close to a buy signal with the original SS parameters and I wanted to see if the new parameter differed. In particular I wanted to look at BPCOMPQ which uses a 3 day EMA vice the BBs. The signals were pretty much the same. Both were very close to buys, but not quite there.

NYMO blew past the 28 day EMA yesterday, which was another piece of the puzzle I looked at. That tells me that should a buy signal be initiated soon, the odds are much better that it's a good signal.

The new parameters are actually not as prone to whipsaws as the original, but that can be a double-edged sword. The last sell signal I got using the original parameters had me out of the market 3 trading days before the new parameters did. By following the original parameters on that signal I locked in a 1.8% gain vice a 4% loss using the new parameters.

However, the last buy signal whipsawed me using the original parameters. The new parameters remained on a sell and avoided the bulk of that correction, but not all of it.
 
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coolhand, when SS was in sell, why you didn't exit the S fund to G? TSP allows unlimited exits to G fund, as I understand. thanks.
 
lindalyc;bt1526 said:
coolhand, when SS was in sell, why you didn't exit the S fund to G? TSP allows unlimited exits to G fund, as I understand. thanks.

There was still 2 and half weeks left to the month and I had no IFTs left to get back in if the market decided to reverse. And reversals are almost always in play. We never know how deep a sell-off is going to be either, so oftentimes it's better to hold ones position and ride it out. So far, it's worked out reasonably well for me as it appears the SS may be gearing up for another buy signal; perhaps next week. If that happens I'll be starting the month out in stocks, which effectively gives me one extra trade. That's a big deal in my book. ;)
 
Looks to me like there is very little difference between the 2 bpcompq indicators, at least based on yesterdays closing value for each. By the way, I just realized you can sign up to follow IYB, which I just did. He sold his shorts and apparently is thinking that we are putting ina bottom here.
 
mdszj;bt1528 said:
Looks to me like there is very little difference between the 2 bpcompq indicators, at least based on yesterdays closing value for each. By the way, I just realized you can sign up to follow IYB, which I just did. He sold his shorts and apparently is thinking that we are putting ina bottom here.

He mentioned that on Trader's Talk yesterday. I'm thinking we get a buy signal sometime next week.
 
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