What Happened To Global Warming, it's NOT!!

[Viva_La_Migra]

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because we label anyone who say's that they here from God as a lunatic......Or maybe we are just not listening for his voice anymore.

There's a great deal of truth and wisdom in your statement CapeChem. Fantastic post!

 

[Viva_La_Migra]

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Yep - The Audacity of Hope by our President is a good book to read

I recommend Liberty and Tyranny, a Conservative Manifesto by Mark Levin.

 

[Show-me]

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For the record..I am a God believing, nondemoniational, raised Catholic, non practicing except in my own church....

A Why Question:

Why do we read and have heard that God had so much to do with DIRECTLY, early man (e.g., Adam and Eve, Abraham, Moses, Noah, Saul, and as Jesus in mortal form, etc)..and we never hear of any one on one involvement with anyone like in the past with him today?

Just a question, I have no doubts of why I'm here and or where I'll be going..just wondering out loud as God gave me the mind to be able to do so..

Are you saying that you talk to God and He talks back? :nuts:

Why not? But the public perception is that you are nuts. Why? Because they do not believe or can not or do not want to hear? Living by Gods book is hard but I learn more every day. James has taught me a lot, weather he knows it or not. Thanks James. Mainly about the lending of money. Many times we latch onto what we like and not what is Gods law.

God speaks to me daily through my conscious and dreams. It us up to me to hear and act. Free will.

 

[Buster]

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Thank you all..Great wisdom here and good food for thought..thanks again..

 

[budnipper1]

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For the record..I am a God believing, nondemoniational, raised Catholic, non practicing except in my own church....

A Why Question:

Why do we read and have heard that God had so much to do with DIRECTLY, early man (e.g., Adam and Eve, Abraham, Moses, Noah, Saul, and as Jesus in mortal form, etc)..and we never hear of any one on one involvement with anyone like in the past with him today?

Just a question, I have no doubts of why I'm here and or where I'll be going..just wondering out loud as God gave me the mind to be able to do so..

I'm a long way short of being a preacher, but these are my thoughts:
(ps...howdy everybody. Long time since I broadcasted my 2 cents here, but I do check in now and then. Wish you all well!)

In the biblical ages of the Old Testament, God performed miracles (and spoke
directly to the apostles) to show proof of His existance and of his supreme
power. His miracles showed mankind the undeniable evidence needed for
believing that we should honor and obey his teachings. The New Testament
was completed to document these miracles, and to teach us how to believe and
develope our faith. The New Testament marked the end of the era of
miracles. God should not be expected to keep proving himself to us by
continuously performing miracles.

http://www.gospelway.com/god/miracles_duration.php
/ "Conclusion: Miracles and spiritual gifts played an essential role in
God's plan. We must appreciate and understand that role. The miraculous
powers were essential to reveal the word of God, record it in the
Scriptures, and confirm it to be God's will. We need to respect and
appreciate that message. However, when the message was completed, the gifts
were no longer needed, so they ceased. To believe otherwise is to
misunderstand God's will and show a lack of respect for Scripture. Many
false doctrines have been believed and practiced as a result."/

John 20:29-31 (King James Version)
29-Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast
believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

30-And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples,
which are not written in this book:

31-But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ,
the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

John 20:29-31 (New King James Version)
29 Jesus said to him, "Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed.
Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."

30 And truly Jesus did many other signs in the presence of His disciples,
which are not written in this book; but these are written that you may
believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing, you
may have life in His name.

 

[Buster]

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The New Testament
was completed to document these miracles, and to teach us how to believe and
develope our faith. The New Testament marked the end of the era of
miracles. God should not be expected to keep proving himself to us by
continuously performing miracles.

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Awesome reply Bud..thank you and that makes me understand even more now, the WHY...


PS: Welcome back, I've missed our banter..

 

[WorkFE]

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(ps...howdy everybody. Long time since I broadcasted my 2 cents here, but I do check in now and then. Wish you all well!)http://

You can give us your 2 cents worth but these are investors so most of the people on this MB are only going to give you a penny for your thoughts.

 

[CountryBoy]

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Welcome back Budnipper1.

And a very good response!

CB

 

[grandma]

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Hi budnipper - it is good to see/hear from you again! However, I do have to disagree with some of your post.

/ "Conclusion: Miracles and spiritual gifts played an essential role in God's plan. We must appreciate and understand that role. The miraculous powers were essential to reveal the word of God, record it in the Scriptures, and confirm it to be God's will. We need to respect and appreciate that message. However, when the message was completed, the gifts were no longer needed, so they ceased. To believe otherwise is to misunderstand God's will and show a lack of respect for Scripture. Many false doctrines have been believed and practiced as a result."/

..and I have no doubt that there are many missionaries in So America, Asia, among other countries, who will also sincerely, emphatically disagree that miracles have ceased, that the Spiritual powers are not essential.
If these witnessed & documented events are denied, or attributed to other than the Resurrection Power, that may very well grieve the Holy Spirit. The Trinity is here, and speaks to ANYone who purposes to listen. To imply that when Paul, Peter, and the other Apostles were no longer living, that God's gifts evaporated is to ignore the History of the Church, of Christianity. This disagreement has been part of the history from the time that Paul had to go back, chasten & re-teach churches he had established.
And at what point do the writings in the NT become Scripture? If at the moment of being written, that would mean no further gifts demonstrated as each Gospel, Epistle, Revelation was completed? It was some 60 years after the Resurrection before some of these were written.
Latourette in The History of Christianity documents not only the mind & letter writing battles of the days of the Epistles, but also the sword/lance battles because of these disagreements. He takes no sides, just documents...extensive, but fascinating reading. Correction: he does side on the fact of Jesus as the Risen Messiah.

 

[Buster]

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Grandma..I see what your are saying..there are miracles happening all the time ..Birth is one to speak of..But what I think Bud was referring to as, the cessation of direct miracles from GOD was more along the lines of, that we will not see too many more partings of the Red Sea or the raising of the dead as in Lazarus, or water into wine, or a few loaves of bread and a couple of fish to feed thousands, or Manna in the middle of the desert, as an example..

 

[Steadygain]

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Budnipper -- WELCOME BACK !!

I thought your post was beautiful and Thank You !!

..and I have no doubt that there are many missionaries in So America, Asia, among other countries, who will also sincerely, emphatically disagree that miracles have ceased, that the Spiritual powers are not essential.

They are incredibly ESSENTIAL -- for they more than anything else show the Reality of God's Power over everything. It testifies that Jesus and the Spirit of God are everybit as Alive Today as when Jesus walked on the earth. Miracles have far from ceased -- and our potiential to 'participate in them' can be a daily experience. Not by our Power -- but by the Power and Presense of the Living God.

 

[Steadygain]

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But what I think Bud was referring to as, the cessation of direct miracles from GOD was more along the lines of, that we will not see too many more partings of the Red Sea or the raising of the dead as in Lazarus, or water into wine, or a few loaves of bread and a couple of fish to feed thousands, or Manna in the middle of the desert, as an example..

Miracles along these lines have far from ceased my friend and it's wonderful that I can chuckle in delight when I read this. Please know that I am familar with numerous Miracles occuring today -- The Dead being brought back to Life -- and many along those lines.

 

[budnipper1]

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Hi grandma... My belief is that the New Testament was written by the apostles to show us how God wants us to live. The old Testament is a history book which shows us where we came from and how we got here. You likely know much more than I do about the Bible. But, I've been taught that it is our responsibility to teach others, such as those underprivileged people in the countries you mentioned, about God. We are expected do this by educating them, by providing them with the Bible and helping them study and understand what it teaches. We should also show them the benefits of living accordingly, not just with our words but with how we conduct ourselves daily. Christians are not expected to perform miracles, nor do we have the power to do so, in order to convince people about the presence of God. In the New Testament, Christians are taught that a person who claims to perform miracles, or to claim that they have even witnessed such miracles, are "false prophets". As far as the exact moment in which the New Testament became the new law, I do not know. I do know that my faith and beliefs are built on what it teaches. This is likely one of those " we can agree to disagree" moments when I should get down off my pulpit. It was good to hear from you again, too.

Buster: I love you too, man!

WorkFE: I heard THAT! I doubt if it was even worth THAT much!

CountryBoy: Thankyu-thankuverymuch!

 

[CountryBoy]

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Hi grandma... My belief is that the New Testament was written by the apostles to show us how God wants us to live. The old Testament is a history book which shows us where we came from and how we got here. You likely know much more than I do about the Bible. But, I've been taught that it is our responsibility to teach others, such as those underprivileged people in the countries you mentioned, about God. We are expected do this by educating them, by providing them with the Bible and helping them study and understand what it teaches. We should also show them the benefits of living accordingly, not just with our words but with how we conduct ourselves daily. Christians are not expected to perform miracles, nor do we have the power to do so, in order to convince people about the presence of God. In the New Testament, Christians are taught that a person who claims to perform miracles, or to claim that they have even witnessed such miracles, are "false prophets". As far as the exact moment in which the New Testament became the new law, I do not know. I do know that my faith and beliefs are built on what it teaches. This is likely one of those " we can agree to disagree" moments when I should get down off my pulpit. It was good to hear from you again, too.

Buster: I love you too, man!

WorkFE: I heard THAT! I doubt if it was even worth THAT much!

CountryBoy: Thankyu-thankuverymuch!

Budnipper,

I agree and believe the same thing, regarding the Old and New Testaments. Each of us has to find our own way and discuss religion only when asked.

CB

 

[grandma]

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Christians are not expected to perform miracles, nor do we have the power to do so, in order to convince people about the presence of God. In the New Testament, Christians are taught that a person who claims to perform miracles, or to claim that they have even witnessed such miracles, are "false prophets".

Budnipper, I regret if anyof my post indicated that I believe, or even think, that Christians can, are able, are expected, and therefore do, perform miracles. I meant to stress that all comes from the Lord, with/thru the Holy Spirit. Limiting Him to only what is believed by a particular person/denomination is probably not the wisest thing a man can do. When missionaries who are living with, and having known personally, the folks they are telling of, of the blind seeing, the deaf hearing, the lame walking; and when short term trippers are seeing this too, I am unwilling to refute it - especially since I know the witnesses personally myself. A family of 4 who have been in middle Africa for 10 years, another family who has built a compound in the mountains of Hondurus over the past 25 years - teaching them to make/sell fishing flies, to grow their own crops, to have a coffe-bean grove....not only demonstrating God's love for each He created, but teaching, sharing: sending out their own native missionaries into Asia, etc.
And I do agree we can disagree, even within the congregation I worship with (interdenominational) there are these same disagreements - I just find myself compelled to make a statement in favor of the Holy Spirit when I think He is being neglected. ! Love ya - grandma

 

[nnuut]

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We could use a few really GOOD miracles right now, HOW IS THE WEATHER?:laugh:

 

[budnipper1]

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We could use a few really GOOD miracles right now, HOW IS THE WEATHER?:laugh:

It's WET in Perry County! How's it going, nnuut! It's a 'miracle' that I'm still kickin' and wasting perfectly good air!

 

[nnuut]

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It's WET in Perry County! How's it going, nnuut! It's a 'miracle' that I'm still kickin' and wasting perfectly good air!

Hey, BN1 nice to hear from you!! Looks like we have a front coming with some thunder boomers, a little rain is good. I'm still counting down the days until I retire, getting close will submit the papers Nov. 12th!! I'm looking forward to it, just think they pay you and you don't have to get up and go to work, what a deal, but of course you know how that feels. As long as Global Warming doesn't fry us all it should be GOOD!!!:laugh: December 31st, my last day!!!
Every day you're vertical is a good one!!:toung:

 

[budnipper1]

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Hey, BN1 nice to hear from you!! Looks like we have a front coming with some thunder boomers, a little rain is good. I'm still counting down the days until I retire, getting close will submit the papers Nov. 12th!! I'm looking forward to it, just think they pay you and you don't have to get up and go to work, what a deal, but of course you know how that feels. As long as Global Warming doesn't fry us all it should be GOOD!!!:laugh: December 31st, my last day!!! View attachment 7055
Every day you're vertical is a good one!!:toung:

Glad to hear it, nnuut... being retired is where it's at! No boss, no alarm clocks, stress level = ZERO! I probably couldn't hold down a job now if I HAD to... lazy to the bones!

 

[nnuut]

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Glad to hear it, nnuut... being retired is where it's at! No boss, no alarm clocks, stress level = ZERO! I probably couldn't hold down a job now if I HAD to... lazy to the bones!

YES SIR, I LIKE IT!!
You still floating around on the Budnipper1, or is it too cold, due to Global Warming?