What Happened To Global Warming, it's NOT!!

[Buster]

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Right behind you guys..June 1st is my last day..I'm getting kinda nervous too, I will admit...Gulp..:worried:

 

[Steadygain]

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Miracles have far from ceased -- and our potiential to 'participate in them' can be a daily experience. Not by our Power -- but by the Power and Presense of the Living God.

Hi Grandma

I'm heading home for the weekend but thought I'd share a few things. There is no doubt that your message - and mine - were very clear. It is not something people in general either want to talk about or even think about -- and that's why all the more YOU are one of the few to really know.

Each of us has to find our own way and discuss religion only when asked.

CB

Not trying to push anything on you CB -- or anyone else.

I would say all the more 'each of us has to find our own way and discuss politics only when asked.'

As a rule growing up -- you don't talk about Politics, Money, or Religion. Politics was always the first one because it was by far the one that caused the greatest arguments.

This discussion has already died -- but was innocently brought up in relation to the power of prayer.

Anyway -- have a good weekend.

I regret if any of my post

not only demonstrating God's love for each He created, but teaching, sharing: sending out their own native missionaries into Asia, etc.

I just find myself compelled to make a statement in favor of the Holy Spirit when I think He is being neglected.

I regret you have 'To Regret'

That an awkwarkness has to dominate anything remotely connected to the most important aspect of our existence - and any genuine effort to make it known is really sad.

Thanks for sharing Grandma and have a good weekend.

 

[nnuut]

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Right behind you guys..June 1st is my last day..I'm getting kinda nervous too, I will admit...Gulp..:worried:

Like I just said "LET THE COUNT DOWN BEGIN" SHORT!!
Time until Tuesday, June 1, 2010 (Richmond time)

220 days
5284 hours
317061 minutes
19023706 seconds
Alternative version

It is 220 days, 4 hours, 21 minutes and 46 seconds until Tuesday, June 1, 2010​

http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcount.html

 

[budnipper1]

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Like I just said "LET THE COUNT DOWN BEGIN" SHORT!!
Time until Tuesday, June 1, 2010 (Richmond time)

220 days
5284 hours
317061 minutes
19023706 seconds
Alternative version

It is 220 days, 4 hours, 21 minutes and 46 seconds until Tuesday, June 1, 2010​

http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcount.html

I'm sure you guys have a "special" calendar hanging somewhere to mark the days off. I had one at work and another one at home because it felt so good to cross off the days, I liked to do it twice! Here's the one that I kept:

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[nnuut]

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I have a dry erase board on the outside of my cube at work, I post the number of total days and estimated work days. I also have it in my signature below and the Oil Slick Stuff Home Page!! I try and not think about it too much at home but am failing big time!! 68 DAYS

 

[burrocrat]

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I'm not very religious but i do consider myself a spiritual being. here's my two cents. it's a wonder we haven't all killed each other off yet, with all that's available we still manage to get along this road together, God does work miracles, everyday.

oh, and John 10:9, that's important.

you can never do a kindness to soon, for you never know when it will be too late.

 

[budnipper1]

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I had to downsize after I retired...the ol' Budnipper1 used too much GAS!
When Global warming really heats up, it can double as a Hot Tub! :nuts:

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YES SIR, I LIKE IT!!
You still floating around on the Budnipper1, or is it too cold, due to Global Warming?
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[nnuut]

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BN1 YOU ARE "THE MAN"!!!!:laugh:

 

[alevin]

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Decent photoshop there, BN1. Is that there your fish or sumbody else's?

 

[Steadygain]

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Christians are not expected to perform miracles, nor do we have the power to do so, in order to convince people about the presence of God. In the New Testament, Christians are taught that a person who claims to perform miracles, or to claim that they have even witnessed such miracles, are "false prophets".

I'm not very religious but i do consider myself a spiritual being. here's my two cents. it's a wonder we haven't all killed each other off yet, with all that's available we still manage to get along this road together, God does work miracles, everyday.

oh, and John 10:9, that's important.

you can never do a kindness to soon, for you never know when it will be too late.

I would say that our Spiritual Journey - and all we have gained in our deep knowledge of God - and all the more as we come to fully know and understand what GOD is all about IS WHOLLY DEPENDENT in allowing the Spirit of Love, Life, and Truth to dominate our existence. These are wholly dependent on how deeply and richly we allow ourselves to be open and willing to letting God take control of everything to do with our existence. I am convinced that the more richly one is committed in this endeavor and the more one persists in letting God's Spirit dominate their interactions and 'all relationships' the more you will see the undeniable presense of God's Power and in their life.

In the New Testament, Christians are taught that a person who claims to perform miracles, or to claim that they have even witnessed such miracles, are "false prophets".

The New Testament is filled with the real life accounts of God working through ordinary people like you and me to work in ways to show how all of us can be transformed into something beautiful; something whole and complete. There is absolutely no mistake that the miracles which occured in connection with many 'ordinary men and women' - were wholly through the Power and Presense of God living in them; and allowing them to be vessels of His Grace and Glory. None of them ever took credit for themselves -- but humbly acknowledged God's Spirit in them. Those who bore witness to these miricles and who testified to their validity -- were only giving first hand accounts of what God had done through ordinary people.

God does work miracles, everyday.

For God is everlasting - and His Relationship with us is very much a part of our existence - whether we accept that or not.

you can never do a kindness to soon, for you never know when it will be too late

Amen - my friend - and may that kindness be a true representation of the matchless and undeniable Grace and Glory of God in us.

 

[Valkyrie]

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In the New Testament, Christians are taught that a person who claims to perform miracles, or to claim that they have even witnessed such miracles, are "false prophets".

provide the verses that teach this.

 

[Steadygain]

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provide the verses that teach this.

I am thrilled beyond all measure that you are asking me for such clarification.

My friend -- please know that my last post clearly reflects the genuine and most sincere convictions that the statement you are asking me to 'support' is totally the opposite of all that GOD is and all He has clearly represented in His undeniable work through the average every day men and woman that have lived since the time of Jesus.

If I would provide verses teaching anything it would be totally the opposite of what you're asking... I would without the slightest degree of reservation or uncertainty -- prove that it is HIS LIFE and HIS SPIRIT that caused numerous miricles to occur throughout the New Testament since His Death and Resurection.

Beyond that -- I would be able to show how actively His Spirit is Alive today and make known the numerous miricles resulting from the abundance of His Grace and Power.

SO -- THE QUOTE YOU GAVE -- IS NOT 'MY QUOTE' BUT TAKEN FROM A 'HUMBLE' AND 'FRIENDLY' RESPONSE TO THAT QUOTE

 

[Buster]

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Course, I can't express myself as eloquently as Steady..But I think that maybe he was referring to these verses in a matter of the way he writes....

Matthew 24:24 "false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect." ​

We are warned that we need to test the spirits of those who would ask us to trust and follow their teachings. Not all who claim to speak for God are truly his spokesmen.

John 4:1 "Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world."​

 

[Steadygain]

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Course, I can't express myself as eloquently as Steady..

Thank you my friend -- I am humbled :embarrest:

There is no way anything I say could come close to His Word

But I think that maybe he was referring to these verses in a matter of the way he writes....

Matthew 24:24 "false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect."
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This is as true as God's miracles - the difference is wholly centered on the activity. If they stem from anything other than God's Grace and The Power of PURE LOVE - they are meant to take from it and in so doing will be grounded in deceit and end in destruction.

We are warned that we need to test the spirits of those who would ask us to trust and follow their teachings. Not all who claim to speak for God are truly his spokesmen.

Those who are will undoubtedly be supported by His Word and knowing His Word more fully will all the more give the grounding needed to test 'the spirits'. Also anyone speaking for God would have to demonstate the Grace, Love, and Mercy which God represents -- so that all things stem from God and Point to God.

John 4:1 "Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world."
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Thanks Buster -- good job

Also excellent job of acknowledging Budnipper1 in a beautiful way

 

[Valkyrie]

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I am thrilled beyond all measure that you are asking me for such clarification.

Don't be thrilled, I wasn't asking for clarification for I know what the Word of the Lord states. However, u seem to twist it ever so slightly in all of your writtings.
U didn't put the statement in quotes indicating that u didn't write it and why I was asking for proof of those statements. I went back and now see it was budnipper that wrote it and that person can now respond.

 

[Steadygain]

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Don't be thrilled,
This could be taken as 'Negative' - sometime meant as an attack or to be offensive

Well hopefully if you re-read what I wrote you will see that in no way did I mean to offend you.

I am always thrilled to expand on what God means to me and how I view His Word and when you asked the question with my name in reference to the question - I saw that as a wonderful opportunity to all the more make my views known.



I wasn't asking for clarification for I know what the Word of the Lord states.
This could also be viewed as a 'Negative' - more of a challenge

My response was not meant to offend you -- but only to express my deepest heartfelt convictions. If somehow I have made you hostile -- or angry -- it was not my intention.

'Provide the verses that teach this' -- sounded like you wanted clarification and since my name was highlighted I felt it was important to 'clarify'.


However, u seem to twist it ever so slightly in all of your writtings.
This is most certainly a 'Negative' and all the more emphasizes my previous views of your expressions.

PLEASE - I beg of you -- Please show me in what manner I twist the Word of the Lord and if you are RIGHT -- if I am honestly doing this then I openly promise you and everyone else that I'll never talk about God or the Word of the Lord on this MB again.

You have my word.

I am stressing the Matchless and Awesome -- all encompassing Grace and Love of GOD. Always trying to POINT to His Glory and beyond the shadow of any doubt make it very clear that the miracles He works in us - and through us - are wholly by His Spirit. It is His Strength and His Power at work and we can take no credit.


U didn't put the statement in quotes indicating that u didn't write it and why I was asking for proof of those statements.
Another Negative -- and another accusation

The POST you are referring to -- Begins with the Quote - and who the Quote comes from. I made every effort to make sure that 'it was understood' it did not come from me.

NO - Instead I made the quote clear to all -- and when I repeated it I deliberately made it in 'Black' to distinguish it from the rest.

I went back and now see it was budnipper that wrote it and that person can now respond.

Since 4 of your comments were directly addressing me I felt you deserved a response. When I went to a Bible College it was a common tradition to ask for the 'Verses' that support statements such as 'The Bible says' -- 'The New Testament says'....

so I honestly completely misunderstood your intentions.

 

[budnipper1]

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Don't be thrilled, I wasn't asking for clarification for I know what the Word of the Lord states. However, u seem to twist it ever so slightly in all of your writtings.
U didn't put the statement in quotes indicating that u didn't write it and why I was asking for proof of those statements. I went back and now see it was budnipper that wrote it and that person can now respond.

Hi Valkyrie,
I'm not sure what you have assumed from my original comments about miracles, but maybe this will help clarify my beliefs. I really didn't plan on getting too deep into the subject since my limited knowlege of Bible scripture would soon prove me ignorant. Hopefully, I can continue to sit on the sidelines now, and just 'quietly' observe any furthur discussions, because I've already stated pretty much everything I know. (which ain't much.)

http://www.renaroadchurchofchrist.com/miracles_church_of_christ.htm
"Many believe that God still works miracles today and imparts Christians, in varying degrees, with miraculous gifts through the Holy Spirit. Although no adequate proof is offered, those who profess this accept on faith that what they have experienced or are experiencing is miraculous. There are nine miraculous gifts of the Holy Spirit mentioned in the New Testament (wisdom, knowledge, faith, healing, miracles, prophecy, discerning of spirits, tongues, interpretation of tongues). Some believe that a person is not confirmed as a true Christian until God endows him with some kind of spiritual gift (usually tongue speaking). Others profess that only certain Christians are endowed with miraculous gifts. Still others profess that since some gifts are greater than others (1Corinthians 12:31) God uses these gifts to single out certain individuals for various ministries. There are, no doubt, many other interpretations about how miraculous gifts of the Holy Spirit are endowed and who can and cannot receive them. In this article I will give several reasons why I believe (1) that the New Testament does not support the teaching of some that miracles still happen today and (2) that there is no longer a need for miraculous gifts of the Holy Spirit."
[Entire article: http://www.renaroadchurchofchrist.com/miracles_church_of_christ.htm ]

Conclusion (opinion) by David Banks:
The ultimate purpose of miracles was not to heal the sick, feed the hungry, cast out demons, or even to reveal God’s message to man. The ultimate purpose was to prove that the message was true and that those delivering the message were authorized by God to do so. While these miracles undoubtedly accomplished a great many wonderful things the sick who were healed got sick again, the filled man got hungry again and the man exercised of demons was subject to repossession. Miracles served their purpose and the word of God now confirmed does not need constant reconfirmation.

http://www.biblebb.com/BBB-GG-SOF.htm
God the Holy Spirit is sovereign in the bestowing of all His gifts for the perfecting of the saints today and that speaking in tongues and the working of sign miracles in the beginning days of the church were for the purpose of pointing to and authenticating the apostles as revealers of divine truth, and were never intended to be characteristic of the lives of believers.
1 Cor. 12:4-11 - 13:8-10
2 Cor. 12:12
Eph. 4:7-12
Heb. 2:1-4

 

[Steadygain]

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you've uncovered one of the primary scripture-interpretive differences among Protestant churches-what scripture teaches about the ongoing nature of charismatic gifts vs. gifts of ministry

The charismatic gifts mean absolutely nothing to me -- and I in all sincereity do not mean this to offend anyone that finds a deepened realationship with God through them.

Any of my discussions - and all things I say - are wholly related to God's Activity in the LIVES of those who make a point of being open to God and letting Him demonstate the reality of HIS LOVE - LIFE - and POWER -- AS TESTAMENTS TO HIS UNFAILING AND EVERLASTING GRACE.

and the purpose and definition of miracles and whether they are still in effect.

To me -- GOD working directly within any person is a MIRACLE itself - but all the more I would say when we see first hand how GOD and only GOD can work through any person TO OTHER PEOPLE in a manner that results in a real and total Transformation -- that clearly indicates GOD'S POWER ALONE could have made this Transformation -- that I would consider a Miracle.

Don't think that one will go away-its ingrained one way or the other between denominations.

Demoninations mean nothing to me -- and I am not promoting any demonination -- but only making known GOD and the reality of HIS LIFE in US. That His Spirit is not only Transforming -- but it directly brings us into a LOVE that can only be known through GOD. This LOVE will be associated with qualities that reveal God's Grace and Mercy.

Baptist interps are on one side of the fence, pentecostals on the other side, most of the rest of us somewhere in between.

Again these are 'trivial' matters to me. What 'doctrines' give a church its distinct identity -- has nothing to do with what I would emphasize.

Valkyrie does NOT like you, I sense that will not change regardless what you say to "her".

Her view of me -- like or dislike -- is not something I would remotely be concerned with. The only thing that matters to me is that when I do speak of GOD or His WORD - that I do it in a manner that is unmistakeably pointing to HIS GRACE and GLORY and that I can solidly show beyond the shadow of any doubt that what I say is TRUE.

I am not bothered by her challenge -- or her accusations -- as I know undoubtedly in my heart of hearts that GOD HIMSELF will make known who is true and who is not. Which one is actively allowing His Grace and Love to be revealed; which one will stive to promote harmony and understanding. This is what is important - not if I am despised or admired.

I hope tho that person will actually point out how....

Again - thank you for your concern but my last paragraph will hopefullly show you -- it's not a 'personal thing' to me.

I sounds to me its more been building up awhile, and is as much personality-differences in communication style that are grating.

Well this is likely true --- but my good friend -- I can not be what she or anyone else want me to be. I am Steadygain plain and simple.

I would say Birchtree's personality and his communication style may have 'grated many' -- and obviously there has been a time or two where I grated him -- but I would go to bat for him anytime.

Thanks for your concern -- but seriously -- everything is cool.

 

[Handballer]

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Seems like we have gotten way off topic.

 

[Steadygain]

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Seems like we have gotten way off topic.

That's the ultimate beauty of this site ...

We float and move around like moths near a lightbulb ...

The topics frequently change and it's all a matter of keeping in time..

trying to flow with it...