What Happened To Global Warming, it's NOT!!

[nnuut]

Re: What Happened To Global Warming

That's right, go ahead and believe Al Gore it's up to you, but for my money it is just a part of the ultimate GOAL and we all should know what that is by now!! Kinda Chilly in Georgia today!!:worried: View attachment 7325

 

[coolhand]

Re: What Happened To Global Warming

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH6_hmEgfCs

I like the comment about the timing before Copenhagen. Perfect!

 

[nnuut]

Re: What Happened To Global Warming

It's like one of my dreams came true!! We knew something was wrong with this BULL!! That IS SWEET!!! :laugh::laugh::laugh:

 

[nnuut]

Re: What Happened To Global Warming

It's like one of my dreams came true!! We knew something was wrong with this BULL!! That IS SWEET!!! :laugh::laugh: View attachment 7335

Maybe they should take all of the money back that Big AL Gore made off of GW!!:laugh: Sugar Sugar! Tell me it isn't so!!

 

[Buster]

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Maybe they should take all of the money back that Big AL Gore made off of GW!!:laugh: Sugar Sugar! Tell me it isn't so!! View attachment 7336

And take back his Nobel Peace Prize....

 

[nnuut]

Re: What Happened To Global Warming

And take back his Nobel Peace Prize....

This reminds me of GREEN SHOOTS, might be the start of a turn around, but I shouldn't get my hopes up! Hard to think positive when your up to your chin in SLIME!:suspicious:!

 

[mick504]

Re: What Happened To Global Warming

Even if all the global warming is true; although nothing proves it thus far...do you think the Chinese, India are going to do a damn thing about it. They will do some minor thing to appease our Pres...but really nothing will change. Plus, with all the money China is lending us by buying our debt, they could/would just say we'll work on it. That means little will be done for the next 100 years. Chinese think in terms of many years...not like the US in terms of months. Al Gore is the main guy making all the money with his 16 room house.

 

[CountryBoy]

Re: What Happened To Global Warming

Climategate: the final nail in the coffin of 'Anthropogenic Global Warming'?

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/j...n-the-coffin-of-anthropogenic-global-warming/

Just a few tidbits

Manipulation of evidence:

I’ve just completed Mike’s Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd from 1961 for Keith’s to hide the decline.

Private doubts about whether the world really is heating up:

The fact is that we can’t account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can’t. The CERES data published in the August BAMS 09 supplement on 2008 shows there should be even more warming: but the data are surely wrong. Our observing system is inadequate.

Suppression of evidence:

Can you delete any emails you may have had with Keith re AR4?

Keith will do likewise. He’s not in at the moment – minor family crisis.

Can you also email Gene and get him to do the same? I don’t have his new email address.

We will be getting Caspar to do likewise.

Fantasies of violence against prominent Climate Sceptic scientists:

Next
time I see Pat Michaels at a scientific meeting, I’ll be tempted to beat
the crap out of him. Very tempted.

Attempts to disguise the inconvenient truth of the Medieval Warm Period (MWP):

……Phil and I have recently submitted a paper using about a dozen NH records that fit this category, and many of which are available nearly 2K back–I think that trying to adopt a timeframe of 2K, rather than the usual 1K, addresses a good earlier point that Peck made w/ regard to the memo, that it would be nice to try to “contain” the putative “MWP”, even if we don’t yet have a hemispheric mean reconstruction available that far back….

And, perhaps most reprehensibly, a long series of communications discussing how best to squeeze dissenting scientists out of the peer review process. How, in other words, to create a scientific climate in which anyone who disagrees with AGW can be written off as a crank, whose views do not have a scrap of authority.


Of course the scam artists tried, thru various methoda, to squelch any dissenting viewpoint. Sounds familiar, censorship via Chicago style politics. Opposing view get Alinskyed as opposing political views in this country do, because there is huge money to be made on this global warming scam, especially by Algore, inventor of the internet, so opposing views must be stopped at all costs.

Thank goodness for the foriegn press, who still know how to do their job and weed out corruption. They're not beholden to bhO nor do they have any of their prestige on the line by blindly promoting this guy, as so many still do, even if it means the destruction of our econpmy and our childrens future, but hey, ya gotta break a few amendments to get your socialist agenda jammed down the publics throat.

Sorry gq, but it is early in the morn as the dog woke me up wanting in because of the rain, but have at it, I know how it thrills you so.:laugh:

 

[nnuut]

Re: What Happened To Global Warming

Got this from a link in the article posted by Country Boy. Good job CB!!

NO CAP and TRADE!!!​

There is no Global Warming and this guy published that fact in March of this year. It's all about Politics and nothing else!! I say
DRILL, Baby DRILL!!

Meet the man who has exposed the great climate change con trick

James Delingpole
11 July 2009

James Delingpole talks to Professor Ian Plimer, the Australian geologist, whose new book shows that ‘anthropogenic global warming’ is a dangerous, ruinously expensive fiction, a ‘first-world luxury’ with no basis in scientific fact. Shame on the publishers who rejected the book.

Imagine how wonderful the world would be if man-made global warming were just a figment of Al Gore’s imagination. No more ugly wind farms to darken our sunlit uplands. No more whopping electricity bills, artificially inflated by EU-imposed carbon taxes. No longer any need to treat each warm, sunny day as though it were some terrible harbinger of ecological doom. And definitely no need for the $7.4 trillion cap and trade (carbon-trading) bill — the largest tax in American history — which President Obama and his cohorts are so assiduously trying to impose on the US economy.
Imagine no more, for your fairy godmother is here. His name is Ian Plimer, Professor of Mining Geology at Adelaide University, and he has recently published the landmark book Heaven And Earth, which is going to change forever the way we think about climate change.
‘The hypothesis that human activity can create global warming is extraordinary because it is contrary to validated knowledge from solar physics, astronomy, history, archaeology and geology,’ says Plimer, and while his thesis is not new, you’re unlikely to have heard it expressed with quite such vigour, certitude or wide-ranging scientific authority. Where fellow sceptics like Bjorn Lomborg or Lord Lawson of Blaby are prepared cautiously to endorse the International Panel on Climate Change’s (IPCC) more modest predictions, Plimer will cede no ground whatsoever. Anthropogenic global warming (AGW) theory, he argues, is the biggest, most dangerous and ruinously expensive con trick in history. [much more]
http://www.spectator.co.uk/essays/a...osed-the-great-climate-change-con-trick.thtml

 

[Show-me]

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Just some more of the fact baby! Fire them all, arrest them, seize their assets, and make them pay back the money they pissed away. Right Phil?

And, Al Gore proves the Nobel is a piece of crap political kudos ass kisser award.

 

[nnuut]

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Just some more of the fact baby! Fire them all, arrest them, seize their assets, and make them pay back the money they pissed away. Right Phil?

And, Al Gore proves the Nobel is a piece of crap political kudos ass kisser award.

Well said my Man, you Show-Them!!:laugh: That should be 2 less things to worry about ,but there are MORE, don't let your guard down!

 

[Buster]

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Having just did a day long lecture on climate change and the EPA's stance on everything..it doesn't take a scientist to see the fallacy of all this..My lectures included known and some conjured up facts about the Ozone hole and how us Earthlings have depleted it due to our using CFCs refrigerants and some aerosols..A little know fact that the EPA doesn't want the general public to know is; NASA uses literally TONS of R-12 refrigerant (with ODP {Ozone Depletion Potential} of 1 the standard the rest of the refrigerant scale is based on) every time they launch a shuttle or space rocket...R-12 is used to cool the rocket nozzles and then just dumped into the atmosphere as it is used..Kind of hypocritical to me..But yet, 130 countries signed a treaty to stop making the CFCs and forced the industry to develop alternative refrigerants at the cost of billions and to which us consumers foot the bill, by means of new equipment, high costs in servicing A/C systems, etc.

Just an FYI

 

[nnuut]

Re: What Happened To Global Warming

Having just did a day long lecture on climate change and the EPA's stance on everything..it doesn't take a scientist to see the fallacy of all this..My lectures included known and some conjured up facts about the Ozone hole and how us Earthlings have depleted it due to our using CFCs refrigerants and some aerosols..A little know fact that the EPA doesn't want the general public to know is; NASA uses litteraly TONS of R-12 refrigerant (with ODP{Ozone Depletion Potential} of 1 the standard the rest of the refrigerant scale is based on) everytime they launch a shuttle or space rocket...R-12 is used to cool the rocket nozzels and then just dumped into the atmosphere as it is used..Kind of hypocritcal to me..But yet, 130 countries signed a treaty to stop making the CFCs and forced the industry to develope alternative refrigerants at the cost of billions and to which us consumers foot the bill, by means of new equipment, high costs in service ing A/C systems, etc.

Just an FYI

Wow!! You're a Cool Dude, I have been enlightened as to your knowledge and abilities!! Slick

 

[Valkyrie]

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http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/j...n-the-coffin-of-anthropogenic-global-warming/

"But to judge by the way – despite the best efforts of the MSM not to report on it – the CRU scandal is spreading like wildfire across the internet, this shabby story represents a blow to the AGW lobby’s credibility from which it is never likely to recover."
http://board.mcnews.com/Topic20143-4-1.aspx

 

[Valkyrie]

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http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/j...nhagen-a-step-closer-to-one-world-government/

"Monckton believes that climate change hysteria is being exploited by the green liberal left – watermelons, as they’re nicknamed: green on the outside; red on the inside – to usher in a form of one world government. He claims to have seen evidence of this in a draft treaty due to be signed off by world leaders at this December’s Copenhagen climate change conference."

exactly what the book "the greening" stated in 1990.

A new world-wide system and philosphy is coming in 2012?

 

[CountryBoy]

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http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/j...nhagen-a-step-closer-to-one-world-government/

"Monckton believes that climate change hysteria is being exploited by the green liberal left – watermelons, as they’re nicknamed: green on the outside; red on the inside – to usher in a form of one world government. He claims to have seen evidence of this in a draft treaty due to be signed off by world leaders at this December’s Copenhagen climate change conference."

exactly what the book "the greening" stated in 1990.

A new world-wide system and philosphy is coming in 2012?

Boy, watermelon sure is descriptive of the greenie weenie movement. It's also a religion to alot of these folks and they'd be just as happy is all human life ceased to exist, sans them off course. Those types always know best.

 

[phil]

Re: What Happened To Global Warming

What exactly has been revealed? Does any of this change the data?

From Wikipedia:

It cited the view of the RealClimate blog that what was not contained in the e-mails was the most interesting element: "There is no evidence of any worldwide conspiracy, no mention of George Soros nefariously funding climate research, no grand plan to 'get rid of the MWP' [Medieval Warm Period], no admission that global warming is a hoax, no evidence of the falsifying of data, and no 'marching orders' from our socialist/communist/vegetarian overlords." The science historian Spencer R. Weart, interviewed in the Washington Post, commented that the theft of the e-mails and the reaction to them was "a symptom of something entirely new in the history of science: Aside from crackpots who complain that a conspiracy is suppressing their personal discoveries, we've never before seen a set of people accuse an entire community of scientists of deliberate deception and other professional malfeasance. Even the tobacco companies never tried to slander legitimate cancer researchers."

The American Association for the Advancement of Science has "expressed concern that the hacked emails would weaken global resolve to curb greenhouse-gas emissions".

The Daily Telegraph reported that academics and climate change researchers have dismissed allegations from sceptics that the emails are evidence of a collusion or international conspiracy, saying that nothing in the emails proves wrongdoing. A spokesman for the Met Office that works with the UEA on climate monitoring, said: "We are utterly confident that there was no collusion or manipulation. All the data used was peer reviewed and we are certain it is fully reliable."

 

[Buster]

Re: What Happened To Global Warming

Yes and what About Wiki ?

Since Wikipedia is in reality a vast and changing document the answers can only be general. The information contained in Wikipedia, like all information, depends on the knowledge or the ability of the person giving the information. Where they don't have specific knowledge of a particular subject they rely on the accuracy of their sources of information, which may be limited or, in questions of opinion, may give a somewhat biased view, (as everyone tends to do) based on the conclusions they have reached from their own viewpoint and/or study.

Another problem with Wikipedia is that it is 'consensus driven' in that the policy regarding answers relating to opinion requires a consensus view to be put. This may be the correct view, or as we all know, 'the majority is not always right.' The majority once thought the earth was the center of the universe. Thus we end up with pooled ignorance.

On matters of opinion, such as religious or moral questions, there must be due recognition that any answer will inevitably reflect either the bias of the writer of the article or the current consensus view or what the author or authors think is the current consensus view. All of these could be wrong, either in whole or in part, but will naturally be well-presented as fact and with supporting argumentation, which may or may not be spurious, if one does not have the knowledge to critique it.

In other words, as with anything, learn to check your facts, no matter how well argued.

Again this topic has come full circle....Maybe time to close this chapter and resign this thread..

 

[CountryBoy]

Re: What Happened To Global Warming

EDITORIAL: Hiding evidence of global cooling Junk science exposed among climate-change believers

Professor Phil Jones, the head of the Climate Research Unit, and professor Michael E. Mann at Pennsylvania State University, who has been an important scientist in the climate debate, have come under particular scrutiny. Among his e-mails, Mr. Jones talked to Mr. Mann about the "trick of adding in the real temps to each series ... to hide the decline [in temperature]."

Mr. Mann admitted that he was party to this conversation and lamely explained to the New York Times that "scientists often used the word 'trick' to refer to a good way to solve a problem 'and not something secret.' " Though the liberal New York newspaper apparently buys this explanation, we have seen no benign explanation that justifies efforts by researchers to skew data on so-called global-warming "to hide the decline." Given the controversies over the accuracy of Mr. Mann's past research, it is surprising his current explanations are accepted so readily.

There is a lot of damning evidence about these researchers concealing information that counters their bias. In another exchange, Mr. Jones told Mr. Mann: "If they ever hear there is a Freedom of Information Act now in the UK, I think I'll delete the file rather than send to anyone" and, "We also have a data protection act, which I will hide behind." Mr. Jones further urged Mr. Mann to join him in deleting e-mail exchanges about the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's (IPCC) controversial assessment report (ARA): "Can you delete any emails you may have had with Keith re [the IPCC's Fourth Assessment Report]?"

Repeatedly throughout the e-mails that have been made public, proponents of global-warming theories refer to data that has been hidden or destroyed.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/nov/24/hiding-evidence-of-global-cooling/

Thank goodness for foreign papers, cause the truth would never get out and the watermelons would continue their spin and cover-ups , buy hey who cares if the truth may be hidden, they don't dare want to have an honest open debate of both views. So much for transparency.

 

[phil]

Re: What Happened To Global Warming

The topic has indeed come full circle here. Thank you very much for that thoughtful and well written article!

However, you forgot to thank Shammi Sam.

http://tech.yahoo.com/qa/20090429043956AAii42y

I wouldn't close this out quite yet. I'm looking forward to Whatever Happened to What Happened to Global Warming.

Yes and what About Wiki ?

Since Wikipedia is in reality a vast and changing document the answers can only be general. The information contained in Wikipedia, like all information, depends on the knowledge or the ability of the person giving the information. Where they don't have specific knowledge of a particular subject they rely on the accuracy of their sources of information, which may be limited or, in questions of opinion, may give a somewhat biased view, (as everyone tends to do) based on the conclusions they have reached from their own viewpoint and/or study.

Another problem with Wikipedia is that it is 'consensus driven' in that the policy regarding answers relating to opinion requires a consensus view to be put. This may be the correct view, or as we all know, 'the majority is not always right.' The majority once thought the earth was the center of the universe. Thus we end up with pooled ignorance.

On matters of opinion, such as religious or moral questions, there must be due recognition that any answer will inevitably reflect either the bias of the writer of the article or the current consensus view or what the author or authors think is the current consensus view. All of these could be wrong, either in whole or in part, but will naturally be well-presented as fact and with supporting argumentation, which may or may not be spurious, if one does not have the knowledge to critique it.

In other words, as with anything, learn to check your facts, no matter how well argued.

Again this topic has come full circle....Maybe time to close this chapter and resign this thread..