knock, knock, may i come in?
Steady my friend, i have to tell you i think you have it all wrong, but you can have it any way you want it. I won't defend or justify anyone else's motivations, i only speak for myself, but again, i think you have it all wrong, the people you describe are not the ones i know.
i respect folks for standing up for what they believe in, even if it is not my way, and that is quite a stand you've taken there. what kind of reaction were you hoping for?
for the record, i don't find you disturbing, although i've no doubt your are at times quite disturbed.
hey, whatta ya say we get together this weekend, we could gather up a bunch of crap in the morning, spend all afternoon throwing it at each other, then we would both smell like it all night?
the giver only controls the intention of the gift, the recipient decides how to accept it.
i can only assure you, under no circumstances are chokecherries for a journey given trivially or with deciet. how the shaman judges your preparations when you present your pipe for the fourth time is entirely between you and the spirit.