Sarah Palin?

[McDuck]

You may have heard that on Dr. James Dobson's "Focus on the Family", this video appeared a couple weeks ago, encouraging people to pray for rain, "during a certain presidential candidate's acceptance speech. "

In this video - he asked Dobson viewers the question "Is it ok to pray for rain??"

The guy in the video is NOT identified in the video or by you. It is not Dr. Dobson. I suspect it was done by a DIM so that ya'll could try to slander.

But there is proof that Micheal Moore did say that for this week.

Jimbo48843, Please identify the guy (by name) in the youtube video since you posted it.

 

[SkyPilot]

James, must be careful here... don't get caught up in the spin. You have great credibility, so be cautious about this kind of stuff. Invoking the Divine is major stuff, and quotation of scripture to bolster a political position should be weighed carefully and with great caution.

Maybe we should just avoid much of that here.

And for those who might be tempted to critisize Gov. Palin regarding her daughter's pregnancy... let's not. Many of us understand and can relate to this family circumstance.

 

[James48843]

The guy in the video is NOT identified in the video or by you. It is not Dr. Dobson. I suspect it was done by a DIM so that ya'll could try to slander.

But there is proof that Micheal Moore did say that for this week.

Jimbo48843, Please identify the guy (by name) in the youtube video since you posted it.

The gentleman in the video is Stuart Shepard. He is "media director" for Focus on the Family's political group- called "Focus Action". He does videos that appear on Focus on the Family's website. After some people objected to this one, Focus pulled the video off the website, but not before copies appeared on Youtube.

You can read more about the video here:
from Channel 7 in Denver:
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/politics/17166715/detail.html

and here: a rather right of center home page of pundits:

http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=1874


No slander intended.

Only prayers for those who are in the path of the storm, and a prayer for the guy who thought it would be "fun" to poke a little fun.

I'll try to clarify my previous statement- - I believe Prayer is a mighty thing that is not to be lightly. And we need to pray for BOTH sides in this presidential season- as laid out in 1 Timothy -

"I urge, then, first of all, that requests, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for everyone—
2 for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. "


We need to pray for ALL those in authority.

 

[James48843]

Enough said.


Change of topics:

To all: Happy Labor Day.

More than 100 years ago, men and women in New York marched to fight against 12-hour workdays and rampant child labor.

Workers fought to win workplace rights and better working conditions and wages at a time when they had little powerLabor Day- a day to honor the working men and women of America, will be celebrated in every state.

It is the creation of the labor movement, and is dedicated to the social and economic achievements of American workers. It constitutes a yearly national tribute to the contributions workers have made to the strength, prosperity, and well-being of our country.

If you work a 40 hour work week, it is because of the struggles of Union organized labor – workers banding together, to fight for decent hours and a safe workplace.

If you have health insurance in which the employer pays a part, it is because of the struggles of Union organized labor to obtain employer contributions to provided health care for workers.

If you have annual leave, it is because of the struggles of Union organized labor to obtain vacation days- leave- for all employees.

If you have pay raises, it is because of the struggles of Union organized labor to obtain equal pay for women and minorities – that founded the “step system pay scale” to replace the “fair haired child buddy system”. Yes, that's how idea of the "step system" of the GS scale began- as a Union initiated pay reform, ( http://cpre.wceruw.org/tcomp/general/teacherpay.php ) to provide equal pay for equal work in the 1920's for women and minorities- long before equal pay was the law of the land. Which, by the way, the law was a direct result of Union Labor work.

And the battle continues today by thousands of workers across the nation- for the basic rights of man.

You wont’ read about any of this in the official messages of current Administration Senior Management offices. But to each worker across our Government- I wish you a warm and wonderful Labor Day weekend- a time to reflect on the struggles of the past, and the struggles that lay before us in the time ahead.

My Agency? The FAA. And a SPECIAL Happy Labor Day to my brothers and sisters of NATCA, PASS, AFSCME, AFGE, NAGE, LIUNA, NAATS, PAACE, and the 34,112 current FAA employees who are represented by these Organized Labor employee groups.

Remember that Labor Day isn't about swimming pools and outdoor grills. It's about the men and women before us who worked hard to make the work environment better for all of us.

Happy Labor Day.

 

[SkyPilot]

The gentleman in the video is Stuart Shepard. He is "media director" for Focus on the Family's political group- called "Focus Action". He does videos that appear on Focus on the Family's website. After some people objected to this one, Focus pulled the video off the website, but not before copies appeared on Youtube.

You can read more about the video here:
from Channel 7 in Denver:
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/politics/17166715/detail.html

and here: a rather right of center home page of pundits:

http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=1874


No slander intended.

Only prayers for those who are in the path of the storm, and a prayer for the guy who thought it would be "fun" to poke a little fun.

I'll try to clarify my previous statement- - I believe Prayer is a mighty thing that is not to be lightly. And we need to pray for BOTH sides in this presidential season- as laid out in 1 Timothy -

"I urge, then, first of all, that requests, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for everyone—
2 for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. "


We need to pray for ALL those in authority.

Then again, maybe it was the Dems invoking this epitat...

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/31/dem-apologizes-for-joking-about-hurricane/


...but of course, it was the fellow who caught him in the act that is to blame...

 

[rokid]

Boy, McCain is unbelievably clever. Palin gives him women, the NRA, hunters, pro-lifers, Eskimos, snow mobilers, commercial fishermen, moose burger lovers, the pro-drilling lobby, beauty contest queens, women basketball players, small towns, small population states, executive expertise and, now, unwed mothers! Wow. :laugh:

Obama should concede immediately. He's got no chance.----Jim

 

[Braveheart]

Boy, McCain is unbelievably clever. Palin gives him women, the NRA, hunters, pro-lifers, Eskimos, snow mobilers, commercial fishermen, moose burger lovers, the pro-drilling lobby, beauty contest queens, women basketball players, small towns, small population states, executive expertise and, now, unwed mothers! Wow. :laugh:

Obama should concede immediately. He's got no chance.----Jim

PALIN gives McCain the White House, she will be even more popular now than before. She stands by her kids and there are plenty of parents that would have thrown her daughter out. Not Palin she is the new Rock Star but the difference is she is not fake and doesn't hide the truth. Trust goes a long way she has that Obama can't buy it !!!

 

[nnuut]

PALIN gives McCain the White House, she will be even more popular now than before. She stands by her kids and there are plenty of parents that would have thrown her daughter out. Not Palin she is the new Rock Star but the difference is she is not fake and doesn't hide the truth. Trust goes a long way she has that Obama can't buy it !!!

 

[Birchtree]

I've been asleep - I just realized what the DNC letters stood for: Democratic Negro Caucus.

 

[XL-entLady]

I've been asleep - I just realized what the DNC letters stood for: Democratic Negro Caucus.

I thought to myself, "Oh MY, I must have read that wrong!" :blink: Then I realized the post was from Birch.

Lady

 

[luv2read]

I thought to myself, "Oh MY, I must have read that wrong!" :blink: Then I realized the post was from Birch.

Lady

It could have been worse....

 

[James48843]

Sometimes I think Birch is kind of like that old crotchty Uncle that always shows up at the family gatherings (Thanksgiving, Christmas, Easter, etc.), and all the kids get big wide eyes, and giggle when he talks.

He can be embarrassing as everything, but hey, he's your Uncle. Family. And you just got to live with it.

Birch, may you show up at my family gatherings, and create memories for the young ones.... (But please don't do that "Pull my finger thing anymore, ok?)


He's Birch.

But he's OUR Birch.....

 

[James48843]

Now HERE is a funny one:

http://raford.wordpress.com/2008/09/01/sarah-palins-pregancy-decision-map/

 

[Steadygain]

Bottom Line OBAMA has no qualifications and he is an election away from being President.

In 24 hours McCain has already received 7 million dollars what does that tell you. McCain's got my vote because there is no way in hell I will follow the cult.:nuts:

Braveheart - my friend. I appreciate your insights and your opinion is just as valid and defendable as any of ours.

I tell ya what. I'd start another thread and I will be able to prove beyond the shadow of any doubt that McCain is no more qualified to be President of the United States than Obama is.

Everyone lives in a dream world - where they think the President has the power and know how to effectively run the country. That is only possible with a 'Federal System' that's set up in a healthy manner. The Bush Administration has created MORE GOVERNMENT that any previous administration and NONE OF THOSE POSITIONS are going to disappear. Until that SYSTEM is "corrected" NO ONE PERSON will be able to make any difference.

 

[Steadygain]

And that's why this choice is SO wrong. Many others will see it the same way. That's quite a put-down, by the way, albeit unintended.

Luv2read,
When I pulled up this thread it somehow poped up on page 4 - giving me the impression that James' response to my post was the last one.

I am the one who stressed that if McCain wins "all of us" need to embrace Sarah as the VP and give her our whole hearted support.

I am not putting her down - I am simply highlighting the way of Politics. I would hope she has a significant part in the global and domestic political exchanges - but "realistically" that is highly unlikely.

Still all of us are seeing this from the perspective that our country runs under a smooth and valid system. Here is where everyone will be shocked by the way things really are. The underlying Federal System has gotten progressively worse and worse over the years regardless of Dem or Rep - with our recent administration creating the all time "Biggest Government" ever.

So it absolutely makes little difference who steps in at this moment in time. Whoever steps in - steps into the "Biggest Government" ever and none of those positions have disappeared over time. The President will therefore have to select at least 3,000 individuals to fill the vacancies and it's just a huge mess with way too many leaders and layers of leaders going on and on.

I believe Birch, CB, and many others have solid convictions about why Obama should not be President - but for me personally I'm looking at who is willing to trim down the "underlying system" instead of adding to it.

 

[SkyPilot]

I tell ya what. I'd start another thread and I will be able to prove beyond the shadow of any doubt that McCain is no more qualified to be President of the United States than Obama is.

However, Obama has engaged himself defending his experience not against McCain, but rather Palin. I suspect that is exactly the strategy the Pubs were hoping to snare Obama in. In the comparison, it elevates Palin, and diminishes Obama.

Obama should have stayed on message trying to point up the unity of McCain and Bush.

As far as saying Palin should stay home with the 5 kids, now it is being pointed out that Obama has his own children and why is it more of an issue for her than him. Experience debate and now sexism...

Obama has erred by straying off message.

Age and treachery often beats youth and enthusiasm....

 

[2EASY]

Qualified or not - How can you pick someone to be the Commander in Chief if you have only met her once for 15 mins? What was he looking at - just her resume? Naw - he was just trying to get the women vote plus please the Rushs' & Hannitys' by getting a conservative with executive experience (how limited it is).

 

[Steadygain]

If you really want to know where she stands on MOST of the issues, then click this link.

http://www.ontheissues.org/Sarah_Palin.htm

JTH - This is amazing.

I'm floored, but like I've said all along: "If the right person said the right thing I'd give them my full support". I know a lot of people that would be thrilled to see this.

Maybe this is a huge blessing in disquise - pulled in for "the wrong reason" - but meant for the best.

Thanks for sharing this!

 

[SkyPilot]

Qualified or not - How can you pick someone to be the Commander in Chief if you have only met her once for 15 mins? What was he looking at - just her resume? Naw - he was just trying to get the women vote plus please the Rushs' & Hannitys' by getting a conservative with executive experience (how limited it is).

Actually this is not true, but you have accurately quoted the talking points that the DNC has been publishing.

While he is undoubtedly hoping to attract independent undecideds and Hillary female voters, it seems he was more concerned with shoring up his conservative credentials with the Republican base. In that matter, this seems to be the case. They are "wild" about Palin...

This choice has also effectively robbed the news cycle and sucked the air out of the Obama speech which by most accounts was one of the 3 or 4 best presidential speeches ever made.

Some say the choice shows a lack of judgement, however, McCain may have already accomplished most of what he set out to do by choosing Gov. Palin. Crazy like a fox?

Now, if she establishes herself as a saavy politician in her debate with Sen. Biden, she adds value on another level.

Obama must recapture the momentum and focus the national argument that McCain is the 3rd Bush term. However, it is becoming increasingly difficult to paint McCain as a twin of Bush and one who cannot or will not embrace change and new ideas.

 

[2EASY]

SKY - what's not true? We all know there were republicans that McCain had a history with...and would have shored "up his conservative credentials with the Republican base." The GOP wont admit it - but they are ticked off. Why haven't we seen Romney or Huckleby speaking lately?