Sarah Palin?

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The issue regarding Obama's credentials has already been made and is now defining.

Any attack against Palin only points up the identity that is already defined for Obama.

It is a circular discussion that end up showing Obama's inexperience, and then compared to McCain's.

The real value of Palin is to raise the issue of experience and leadership, not ultimately hers, but every discussion leads back to Obama's deficit.

And, there will be those attracted to Palin for a variety of reasons. Biden has little to offer and will likely attract no one to the ticket that wasn't already pro Obama to begin with.

BINGO! Well said.;)
 
In the event of a President's death, or other inability to conduct office, the Vice President MUST be ready to step in and take over. The Constitution provides only only two duties for the Vice President- to preside over the Senate and break tie votes, and...be prepared to step in to the shoes of the President, should the President not be able to perform their duties.

However, in the event of an election, Obama is unprepared to step into the shoes of the President, and unable to perform these duties. In that Palin is more qualified than Obama in terms of experience, why would anyone make this argument?

What executive leadership experience does Biden have? Or for that matter, even McCain? Or Carter? Seems that Palin had much of the same kind of exec experience that Bill Clinton had...
 
Actually, the more I think about it, this is a complicated problem for Obama. The more the RNC raises the issue about Obama's experience, the more the DNC speaks about Palin, which in turn creates more opportunity for the RNC to speak about Obama...

The RNC is going to speak about Obama's deficit at every opportunity, which will in turn generate more ops to speak about Obama's inexperience.

A possible strategic stroke of genius for the McCain camp...

Team Obama cannot dissipate the experience discussion in any way...
 
Actually, the more I think about it, this is a complicated problem for Obama. The more the RNC raises the issue about Obama's experience, the more the DNC speaks about Palin, which in turn creates more opportunity for the RNC to speak about Obama...

The RNC is going to speak about Obama's deficit at every opportunity, which will in turn generate more ops to speak about Obama's inexperience.

A possible strategic stroke of genius for the McCain camp...

Team Obama cannot dissipate the experience discussion in any way...

100% correct and many thought McCain was some old has been but in this game he just landed a right hook that hit Obama and the DNC in the jaw. :laugh:They are now on the ropes and in spite of how bad Bush ran this country neither Senator Kerry could win and I predict Obama will lose huge. McCain may even take many blue states.

You can here the wisper we should have selected Hillary. LMAO all that money with Hollywood and MSNBC etc. but he can't bye votes. I can't wait to see Chris Mathews and Keith Olberman crying on the set.:D
 
I am in agreement with you guys, I think a Democratic win would TANK the economy. Don't fall for the HYPE!! Listen closely to what they are saying or more importantly NOT SAYING! When I listen to OBAMA speak a FLIGHT or FIGHT response hits me hard, I don't buy it, I'm out of there! NO NO NOT ME! runman.gif "think Hatch Act"
 
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Look for RNC shills covertly pushing this debate, maybe even raising the issue of Palin's experience providing an excuse to talk about Obama's inexperience.

The more experience is discussed, the more damaging it is to Obama, and the more the Dems speak about Palin, the more it will look like a sexist attack...

The talk radio folks will raise the issues of attacks on Palin (even if they have to be contrived) to give them an excuse to talk about Obama...

Also, there will be more said about the Obama campaign's initial reaction to Palin's selection and the fact that she was a mayor of a small town.

The percieved elitist attitude of the Obama campaign was just reinforced by the Obama Chicago team, (She's been a mayor of a small town of 9000) and this reaction will be replayed again and again for the small, rural guns and church crowd... "What's Obama got against small town rural, gun totin' church goin' hockey playin', red blooded Americans? At least she's been a mayor, and a Govenor"...

Ouch!
 
Three points:

1. True Republicans think Sarah Palin is great regardless of her lack of qualifications. I'm not saying she's isn't wonderful, can't learn, and isn't hot. However, her resume provides no indication she can do the job - I've got more executive experience than she does (20 years vs. 18 months) and I'm certainly NOT qualified. I will be interested in her answers to the usual beauty contest "world peace" questions.:laugh:

2. Fairfax County Virginia's county executive, Anthony H. Griffin (yes, I had to Google him) has responsibility for almost twice as many people as Sarah Palin (+1 million vs. +600K). However, nobody is suggesting he should be Veep for either party. Maybe, it's because he's a man. Maybe, it's because he doesn't eat moose burgers.

3. The Republicans better get down on their knees and pray Chertoff doesn't screw up New Orleans.

---Jim
 
The Dems are finding everything wrong with Palin, and the Reps, all the good. I have no doubt that if Palin had a "D" next to her name the arguments would be exactly the same, we'd just be switching the authors. :)

What counts is the candidate's political philosophy and how much they stand behind it. Palin seems to have a solid foundation in her beliefs, convictions, and morality (on the right), and her lack of experience will not be a factor, as long as her decisions are based on that foundation.

And the same goes for Obama. As inexperienced as he is, he seems to know what he wants to do and has his basic philosophy (left). Those of us who agree with Palin's philosophy, will back her party, and those who agree with Obama's will back his party. Unfortunately McCain is somewhere in the middle and it's tough to fully get on his bandwagon.

I'd like to hear from the undecided. As I said, we know how us partisan folks feel. What does the average undecided Joe think of the 4 candidates?
 
Democrats seem to think Obama is great, regardless of his lack of qualifications... there is nothing in Obama's resume that suggests he is able to do the job, yet he is the Democratic nominee for president (less than 150 days of senate experience, and most of that time running for president.

And Obama presents with less qualifications and executive experience than the Republican VP candidate, Sarah Palin.




See what I mean? There seems to be no argument raised relating to experience that isn't difficult for the Obama campaign...
 
...And the same goes for Obama. As inexperienced as he is, he seems to know what he wants to do and has his basic philosophy (left).

Unless it is above his pay grade... :)

I think the position of POTUS is OJT for everybody, and no one can really know what the job is like until they sit in that chair.

So, ultimately the discussion of experience is sort of moot. The real test is how any administration can deal with us, the defacto shadow government that is here as administrations come and go. We actually set policies, implementation rules, administer oversight, etc...

Power to the bureaucrats!
 
With her beehive hairdo and retro specs, Palin, 44, has a “naughty librarian vibe”, according to Craig Ferguson, the Scottish comedian who stars on late-night US television. However, the selection of Palin, the governor of Alaska and a mother of five, as the first female Republican vice-presidential nominee is no joke for the Democrats.

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At 44, she observed, Palin was quite literally a fresh face, not unattractive, and, behind those schoolmarm frames of the governor's glasses, and underneath the hint of cascade in her brunette locks, Joan Cheek thought she saw something else, a still resonant image from vintage popular culture.


"Wonder Woman!" she announced it, not with relish but with

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Let us not forget how Obama got to Washington. No contest! Jack Ryan dropped out due to a divorce/sex scandal late in the game and Alan Keys ran for the hell of it as a carpetbagger.

Face it, if Obama would have had a real candidate to run against he would not be in Washington now. He won by default not by his experience.
 
Face it, if Obama would have had a real candidate to run against he would not be in Washington now. He won by default not by his experience.

I'm afraid we'll be saying something similar after the elect;

If Obama would have had a real a candidate to run against and the
current Republican President wasn't looked upon as the anti- christ,
he wouldn't be President. :blink:
 
If McCain does win; I would bet she fades in the background. She is mainly a means to get him elected and nothing more.
And that's why this choice is SO wrong. Many others will see it the same way. That's quite a put-down, by the way, albeit unintended.
 
It 404'd me. I dont know if that was a joke, but I thought it was pretty funny. :)


That site is back up now. they had to add a few lines because she actually took some positions yesterday.

And yes, it's pretty darn funny to have 404'd you. :cheesy:
 
You may have heard that on Dr. James Dobson's "Focus on the Family", this video appeared a couple weeks ago, encouraging people to pray for rain, "during a certain presidential candidate's acceptance speech. "

In this video - he asked Dobson viewers the question "Is it ok to pray for rain??"



"Abundant Rain, Torrential Rain. Urban and small stream flood advisory rain".



One should never pray for the detriment of others.

1 Timothy 2:​

1 I urge, then, first of all, that requests, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for everyone
2 for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness.
3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior,
4 who wants all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.
5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
6 who gave himself as a ransom for all men—the testimony given in its proper time.
7 And for this purpose I was appointed a herald and an apostle—I am telling the truth, I am not lying—and a teacher of the true faith to the Gentiles.
8 I want men everywhere to lift up holy hands in prayer, without anger or disputing.



God answers prayers, alright. But you don't always want to hear the answer that God brings you.​

Let us lift us THIS gentlemen, in that he not feel somehow responsible for the result of a prayer request for "Torrential rain during a certain presidential convention."​


And most of all- pray for the people of New Orleans and the surrounding area, who are, at this moment, going through a serious storm.​
 
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James,

Amen, and thank you. My family and many friends are there.

I just heard from friends on the coast that the surge in Hancock and Harrison counties MS is 12' and has breached the roads, it's not in homes yet, but anybody "riding it out" is now stranded.
 
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