Playing the I fund

[nnuut]

MCSI 0.0090%, WHAT'S UP WITH THAT??????????? Peanuts, Chicken Feed. :notrust:
DOLLAR UP< UP< UP!
Well, they don't have to worry about me timing that!! EFA up 1.31% @ 15:00 EST! MCSI .009% CACA!!!, There best be a large revaluation, but I doubt it. We need to wip some butt!

I MEAN MSCI!! Dummy! :embarrest:

 

[Wheels]

MCSI EFA up 1.31% @ 15:00 EST! MCSI .009% CACA!!!, There best be a large revaluation, but I doubt it.

Two points here. First, the EFA is up so much today because the EAFE was up so much yesterday and that money has already been dumped into our accounts. And second. There's not much sense in hoping for a fair valuation adjustment because they will just undo the next day (unless you are geting out on that day, then I guess you would want a positive adjustment to the I fund quote)

Dave
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[Robo5555]

No move today. We stayed at $18.50 a share.

 

[nnuut]

Two points here. First, the EFA is up so much today because the EAFE was up so much yesterday and that money has already been dumped into our accounts. And second. There's not much sense in hoping for a fair valuation adjustment because they will just undo the next day (unless you are geting out on that day, then I guess you would want a positive adjustment to the I fund quote)

Dave
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Two points:
1. Overseas markets were up big time yesterday, Not EFA, EAFE, MSCI.
2. Overseas markets were up big time today, not EFA, EAFE MSCI.

Probably will make up for it Monday while I sit in the "G"?
And #3 The Dollar was UP!:notrust: 3 points.
It's no big mystery but, deceptive.

 

[Rod]

Two points:
1. Overseas markets were up big time yesterday, Not EFA, EAFE, MSCI.
2. Overseas markets were up big time today, not EFA, EAFE MSCI.

Probably will make up for it Monday while I sit in the "G"?
And #3 The Dollar was UP!:notrust: 3 points.
It's no big mystery but, deceptive.

That's why the (I) can be a monster to play. It's a lot more choppy than I remember, and I've been trading it for about 2 1/2 years.

 

[James48843]

A real head scratcher...

By my calculations the "I" fund should have been up either .12 or .13 cents today, and that is even anticipating a 2pm time to calculate value. Instead, they left it flat- no move at all.

Monday better get a good bump in the share price, or else I will start to think perhaps the government might be siphoning off a little on my hard work trying to be in the right place at the right time....

But then again, the government would NEVER do that, now would they?

(can you say "g" fund shenanigans re: the national debt level next week? I've moved everything out of "G" just to prevent them from taking my money)

 

[Fivetears]

No Shenanigans... Relax.

I've moved everything out of "G" just to prevent them from taking my money

Hello . In complete honesty, I just wanted to assure you your money is very safe in the G-Fund; By Law.

Absent legislation by Congress to raise the Federal debt limit, the Secretary of the Treasury may determine that portions of the monies in the G Fund cannot be reinvested in Treasury securities because to do so would exceed the present Federal debt limit. However, all of the G Fund monies would still be on account with the Treasury, and the interest which would accrue if the G Fund were fully invested would still be credited to the G Fund.

G Fund investments are safe and will continue, by law, to accrue earnings. The integrity of the G Fund would not be compromised. TSP participants' accounts would not be affected as a result of any suspension of issuance of Treasury securities to the G Fund.

This is possible because of the "make-whole" provision contained in the relevant section of the Thrift Savings Fund Investment Act of 1987 (P.L. 100-43), 5 U.S.C. § 8438(g)(4), covering this very situation (i.e., a suspension of Treasury securities issuance because of the debt ceiling). The make-whole provision means that TSP participants who have invested in the G Fund will not lose anything. The G Fund account balances would be exactly the same from day to day as if they were invested in Treasury securities. Furthermore, disbursements of TSP loans and withdrawals would not be delayed, nor would the amounts of those payments be reduced.

PS: They did this before on March 20th of 2002; didn't hurt me a bit.

 

[tsptalk]

NIKKEI 225 (OSA:^N225) Delayed quote data

Index Value: 15,975.05
Trade Time: 8:34PM ET
Change: 347.56 (2.22%)

Is anybody daytrading this index? With 1% to 5% moves daily it's trading like a small cap stock.

 

[Birchtree]

The only choice

iShares MSCI EAFE Value, an ETF that tracks international-value stocks. The fund was launched in August'05 by Barclays Global Investors and charges 0.4% a year, plus a trading cost. For ordinary investors, there's no index mutual fund available that tracks international value, so the iShares are the only choice. One of these days, Barclays is going to comne out with an international small-company fund and maybe even an international small-value fund.

 

[Birchtree]

Fluff up the muffin

Your TSP account is a deferred compensation program designed to encourage you to save for your future years - no one is going to touch it. I would actually be more concerned about your defined benefits annuity program that has been promised to you but is in no way an obligation of your employer. That can be changed at a moments notice because it is not your money. Look around and see what is happening to private industry and even some states - most plans are underfunded and are pay as you go. How would you like being an employee of the State of West Virginia - they presently have no funds for their state employees. Inorder for your retirement annuity to be yours completely you would have to convert to a defined contribution plan - that is the way to go if you want security and the potential to make your retirement funds grow even more. Don't listen to Wimpette - he's moving to Venezuela anyway where one doesn't need a retirement plan.

Dennis

 

[The_Technician]

Looking for the

dollar to gain value for the next week or so..I saw it strenghten some since my end of Feb with a short weakening period......so the I fund will probably be flat or maybe a loss......

But I could be wrong....

 

[Oceansideguy]

I won't get into the Iran thing, since I know many don't have the desire to speak about it in this forum. However, assuming a scenario where the Iran conflict happens, is the general concensus that the I fund will drop? I mean, the dollar will likely fall during the war, but how low? Moreover, would the dollar drop make up for the loss of value, or even exceed it (making the I go up)? And last, is the percentage the same, i.e. is the percentage of dollar drop enough to make up for a say, 20% drop in value in the I fund? This of course also begs the question about whether the dollar would drop much at all during a military conflict. Does anyone understand the formula well enough to offer an opinion?

 

[robo]

The short term risk/reward is increasing due to geopolitical events with Iran... I'll be watching the furtures this evening to see how the International folks are handling this news...Iran and Israel's comments this weekend are sure to raise some eyebrows!!!! Is oil heading back up? How about the dollar?

The TA's I follow are mostly in cash.

1 60% long

1 20% long 4 different ETF's

2 Shorting some stocks and some ETF's

1 Shorting the Dow

4 100% in cash.

1 75% cash and 25% for investing

From a contrarian view point the market could go higher, but it's not for this conservative investor... The Trend is your friend, and we have been stuck in this narrow trading range for sometime now.

I closed out all of my long postions in the I Fund and C Fund Friday and I'm now waiting for more of a oversold condition before adding shares again. Made a little on my short-term play during the pull-back in the I and C with a 25% investment.

Good trading/investing for those that are still long. Hoping you get a nice rally next week!!!!

Some of the regulars I enjoy reading. However, I would like to point out I don't always agree with their opinion's.
http://www.decisionpoint.com/ChartSpotliteFiles/060310_iisent.html
http://www.safehaven.com/article-4761.htm

 

[Wheels]

Australia and Japan off to great start tonight. Let's hope it carries over to our markets.

Dave
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[LA_Guy]

I-fund should have a great day. Oversea markets are up and the Euro rose on news that the United Arab Emirates is looking to convert more of its foreign exchange reserves to the single currency.

 

[sugarandspice]

EAFE says up 1.247%........15 cents maybe?

 

[charmedboi82]

I am very, very aware of the "make whole" provision of the law. This is about the fourth time I can remember this taking place.

I work for the FAA, and have since 1991.

FAA is an organization that is exempt from most of Title 5 (5 USC). Therefore, I would not put it past my employer to have them come back and say that this law doesn't apply to me. They've made similar claims in the past.

Further, it is my only way to object to fiscal policies of using employees retirement money in the U.S. debt shell game. I simply do not want to play. If this were the private sector, those using employee retirement funds to do continuing operations capital would go to jail. It isn't there money anymore. Once they have paid my wages, it becomes my money, not theirs, and I will do everything in my power to make it clear that they should not be doing that.

Think they have to follow the law? Just look at "locality pay". That is written in law as well. However, they have never, not even once, since adoption of that law, followed that law. Instead, even during the "boom times" of the late 90's, when the federal deficiet finally was under control, and we had a balanced budget, the Presdent found a way to decalre a fiscal emergency and fail to give the locality pay raise due to employees under the law.

So bailing out of "G" when they want to use the money for paying the government's day-to-day bills is simply my small way to protest. If everyone did the same thing, they would really be in a bad place.

I wish every employee would wake up to the shell game played with their retirement funds.

You're very right, but the money was already taken out, was it not?

I really don't understand the people that say that a law prevents something from happening because we all know that laws are broken every day and only a fraction of the infractions are prosecuted, etc. Maybe they're right about laws though, heck, we might not even have illegals in the country based on that logic of laws not being broken.

 

[Soldat]

MASCI EAFE up 1.247 would equate to ~ 23 cents. Fair valuation for the dollars loss later in the day could make the I funders even more joyous than 23 cents.

 

[ATCJeff]

MASCI EAFE up 1.247 would equate to ~ 23 cents. Fair valuation for the dollars loss later in the day could make the I funders even more joyous than 23 cents.

And what about friday. Looks like we were short changed friday.

Jeff

 

[Wheels]

And what about friday. Looks like we were short changed friday.

Jeff

Not really. MSCI EAFE closed up .0090%. If we got shorted it was only a penny.

Dave
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