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[ATCJeff]

Re: ebbnflow's Account Talk

I'm not sure what you're getting at there, but my point is not that the polls are stupid (OK, not the sentiment survey ones anyway, ), but that a service so minor costs more than what we're looking to charge for the ebbchart system, yet I pay it to keep the sentiment survey going.

I was just looking out for VIC in case some didnt read all the post and thought Vic was calling the polls stupid. I didn't want him to get blasted.

 

[ATCJeff]

Re: ebbnflow's Account Talk

Maybe we could start a pyramid scheme or a chain letter!

I'm in! Just as long as I'm first. No sloppy seconds.

 

[ATCJeff]

We could do what Public TV and Public radio do every so often. Have a week long donation drive every once in a while, where the site is constantly popping up with donation reminders every couple of minutes. It should get so annoying during that week that most of us will donate just to shut it off. You could do the donation drive on very key economic weeks, where tons of economic data are coming out and everybody is scrambling to TSP Talk to read what people are saying.

Note to self....

Write code for donation blocker this weekend and ask Tom to sell code on his site.....

 

[tsptalk]

Re: ebbnflow's Account Talk

I was just looking out for VIC in case some didnt read all the post and thought Vic was calling the polls stupid. I didn't want him to get blasted.

Ah! :laugh: Hey, this is one close bunch. Everyone's got everyone else's back.

 

[FUTURESTRADER]

It would take most of the Gov't employees trading at one time (in the same direction) on a light volume day to even register a blip for the market. I don't think any system anywhere related to TSP funds will do that.

until the hedge funds get wind of the ebbtracker, then bet heavy on S&P futures

 

[budnipper1]

Re: ebbnflow's Account Talk

Let everyone have a paypal donation button, like a tip jar. When they give good advice, Tip them. I am sure I could quit my real job with all the tips I would get (NOT):nuts:

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[tsptalk]

until the hedge funds get wind of the ebbtracker, then bet heavy on S&P futures

That's what I worry about. Any non TSP'er can make their transfer in front of us and we will always get a bad "fill". This is one reason to charge - to limit the number of people who use it.

 

[jayhawker]

If our options are:

1) charge for some services
2) increase traffic

then what can we as users do to increase traffic?

Create a TSPTalk.com advertisement as a .pdf file suitable for printing on 8.5 x 11 office paper. Make it available here for anyone to download. Download it, print it, and post it on bulletin boards in our offices and facilities.

Just one idea.

Ed.

 

[Show-me]

Re: ebbnflow's Account Talk

It's easy. Type up a page and print it on your printer. Take a few to work and put them up on the employee bulletin boards, locker rooms, etc.

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Fell free to cut and paste until you heart is content.

 

[jayhawker]

Re: ebbnflow's Account Talk

Fell free to cut and paste until you heart is content.

Well... yeah...

I was thinking of something slighty more professional. But... that would work too.

 

[tsptalk]

weatherweenie asked about a flyer. I'll see if my wife will do one. She does them for our gallery all the time. She's a little more creative than I am.

 

[James48843]

Re: ebbnflow's Account Talk

Tom,

Thank you for this website - It has certainly enhanced my TSP Account. I read your commentary, Trader Fred's charts (at least I try to read them) and look at the Ebb Tracker daily. Paying a fee is not a problem.

My concern is guys like Griffin, 12%, Fundsurfer, Paladin, and a few others will discontinue posting. Why would they pay to give advice? I'm not sure what is the best approach but maybe in addition to a fee, consider creating an advisory board of the "Market Smart" gang and treat them special (not the short bus special);

Maybe a bonus for the top 5 producers each year;

I think the donation idea would work if the system was easier; Maybe a "Tip Jar" thread where all you had to do was post in the thread stating "I would like to give a $10 tip to Person X for their TSP tip on Tuesday". The money would then be automatically debited from your account. It would be kinda fun watching the tipping thread.

.....Just writing out loud. Thanks again, Clay

Ahh... well,,,, we COULD become a gambling site, as in a 50/50 competition each month. eveybody kick in $10 to play, and the winner gets 50% of the profit, with TSPTALK getting the other half.

Of couse, that could get us all fired if we posted from work.....

Maybe that's not such a hot idea......

 

[Show-me]

Re: ebbnflow's Account Talk

Well... yeah...

I was thinking of something slighty more professional. But... that would work too.

Yea, kind of crude. Have a good weekend.

 

[GGal]

Dawg brought up an excellent point.

There are several people here who contribute lots of wonderful information and advice.

I am not going to try to name them all because I could not possibly do that without leaving someone out.

And that is my point, some of them may be offended and feel unappreciated if they are asked to pay, when after all, they contribute so much. Yet at the same time, one cannot pick and choose who must pay and who must not.

I can't offer a solution to this, just wanted to make the point.



GGAL

 

[SkyPilot]

That's what I worry about. Any non TSP'er can make their transfer in front of us and we will always get a bad "fill". This is one reason to charge - to limit the number of people who use it.

Of course, "they" could subscribe as well

 

[tsptalk]

Of course, "they" could subscribe as well

New rule - Must have a government / military ID card to join. Otherwise, $1000/mo.

 

[wv-girl]

New rule - Must have a government / military ID card to join. Otherwise, $1000/mo.

Actually that is a very good idea. We must not assume that all who benefit from tsptalk is govt/military. Even if it is a low pct that would help to weed out those who aren't. Also, I think a further division should be considered. Anyone on active duty in the military should not have to pay. A small token of our appreciation to those who help keep the USA great.

Debbie

 

[jayhawker]

Re: ebbnflow's Account Talk

Ahh... well,,,, we COULD become a gambling site, as in a 50/50 competition each month. eveybody kick in $10 to play, and the winner gets 50% of the profit, with TSPTALK getting the other half.

Of couse, that could get us all fired if we posted from work.....

Maybe that's not such a hot idea......

I LIKE this idea. Tom benefits, and participants have a chance to win. It's like para-mutual wagering or a lottery ticket. Who here doesn't spend $10 a month on lottery tickets??? I would suggest paying win, place and show.

 

[nnuut]

Re: ebbnflow's Account Talk

Ahh... well,,,, we COULD become a gambling site, as in a 50/50 competition each month. eveybody kick in $10 to play, and the winner gets 50% of the profit, with TSPTALK getting the other half.

Of couse, that could get us all fired if we posted from work.....

Maybe that's not such a hot idea......

Not gambling if we give a free month subscription. I don't think!:blink:

 

[nnuut]

One other thing......................?
If we are a subscription site that charges to get Premium Services, EBBTracker, Trader Fred, RevShark, Tracker, how can we have lurkers without SPILLING THE BEANS? We discuss our allocations/IFTs daily on most of the threads. Could We have a portion of the Board that LURKERS/Potential Members can visit and the serious business on the Pay Pportion. This is really hard to do. What I see is a cover page that explains what we offer, records of Gains/Losses and that's it, or we would give it away. I think the main reason we get most members is that they can access all of the info, view the daily bander and get involved, they almost can't help but get involved, I couldn't! One of the beauties of this site is you never know just who is going to POP UP and join the conversation, Joe Blow or JP Getty. We will lose that spontaneity, this is one of the Big Reasons we are still here and other sites fail. I've been to some of the pay sites, when I read their cover info and record, Price per month I think Yeah, Yeah sure you can ----- GOOD BYE, click and I'm out of there. They get into the doldrums, no new subscribers, no off the cuff comments from someone that just run accross the site with a Google search. No other way, I guess?
Norman