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Hi Zimmy -

I haven't had a PayPal button on the site for a long time (except for the utilities page where you can download the spreadsheet.)

It just didn't work. Sure we get a few generous folks who give repeat donantions, but a few pay for the many. It isn't even worth the time. Plus using a donation feels a little like sitting on a street corner asking for spare change. :)

I don't want to get into a big thing again about to pay or not to pay, but by comparison, RevShark charges $80/mo to get his intraday market comments, or you can pay $479/mo (or $50 a day) and hang in his chat room all day. http://www.sharkinvesting.com/services.aspx So even our $20 is a good deal for him, regardless of his return this year. People that have known him for more than a couple of years know his ability and track record.

Rev started out free here as well and moved to a subscription. Same we are doing, and have always planned to do, for ebb and trader fred. Believe me, if we don't compensate ebb, someone else will and they will charge A LOT more than $15 a month. I hope ebb isn't listening. :)
 
tsptalk said:
Hi Zimmy -

I haven't had a PayPal button on the site for a long time (except for the utilities page where you can download the spreadsheet.)
It just didn't work. Sure we get a few generous folks who give repeat donantions, but a few pay for the many. :)
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There's a paypal donate button at: http://www.tsptalk.com/about_us2.html



Maybe this is the button that the folks have found before, but couldn't relocate later?
 
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zimmy said:
My husband suggests that you can ask people who get to this web site should click on the ads so you can get credit for that.
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Encouraging people to click on ads is against Google's rules. It could also be considered fraud. I used to have a successful online business that used pay per click advertising (goto.com). I had to quite advertising with that company due to click fraud. Remember, many if not most of the advertisers are individuals like you and me simply puting out a service and making a little money on the side.
 
budnipper1 said:
There's a paypal donate button at: http://www.tsptalk.com/about_us2.html


Maybe this is the button that the folks have found before, but couldn't relocate later?
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There are probably a couple of old ones out there hidden. I just took it down though. That money would go to me. I stopped asking for donations because, well it felt like pan handling, and advertising revenue began to pick up. Ebb would have to create his own paypal account to accept donations.
 
Mr tsp tom , We all love ebbnflow system and have profited from this , yet what kind of fee are you looking at and would it be monthly or yearly . I think we all know this might occur , yet a small fee for his time is understandable .
50 bucks a yr per say x 500 members is 25K . Just throwing it out there, curious what you and he were thinking MIGHT OCCUR!
thxs
 
draggen3 said:
Mr tsp tom , We all love ebbnflow system and have profited from this , yet what kind of fee are you looking at and would it be monthly or yearly . I think we all know this might occur , yet a small fee for his time is understandable .
50 bucks a yr per say x 500 members is 25K . Just throwing it out there, curious what you and he were thinking MIGHT OCCUR!
thxs
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I have a feeling that 5obux a year will be viewed as kind of low compared to some of the paid services out there. But I'm sure they don't want to scare customers off either. If the add revenue is working then hopefully we can circumvent any high fees but until that has been determined I feel that ebb shoul at least set up paypal button for donations errrrr kickbacks!
 
draggen3 said:
Mr tsp tom , We all love ebbnflow system and have profited from this , yet what kind of fee are you looking at and would it be monthly or yearly . I think we all know this might occur , yet a small fee for his time is understandable .
50 bucks a yr per say x 500 members is 25K . Just throwing it out there, curious what you and he were thinking MIGHT OCCUR!
thxs
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Nothing final yet but expect $15 to $20 month with a discount for paying up front for 6 or 12 months. more... http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/showpost.php?p=114882&postcount=143
 
I may be persuaded to pay $15 per month, but it seems steep to me. But I've already said that.

Whoever gets the money, remember to pay self-employment tax on it.

My concern now is, if tsp starts charging fees/fines for moves, I may have to park somewhere and leave it.

GGAL
 
I'm with the camp that is willing to pay something for the infomation I'm getting off this site. I feel it is only fair for the amount of work that the guys behind this site put into it.

But, I will say that I haven't felt compelled to pay for any of the info off the other sites that charge for TSP strategies or systems. That would be my fear for a place like this. Lock too much away behind the "you must pay for this area" screen and you'll be turning away lots of new folks like me who might not know the true value of what you have. Sure you can promise great returns, but don't all those pay sites do that? What would make TSPTalk any different?
 
Don't Ya just love that German Beer, I do?
Any suggestions on how it can be done better?
I would love to see it be an informative free site myself, but we have people that are investing many, many hours developing systems and assisting Tom to make this site the BEST!!
When the change comes I don't think TSP Talk will be like the other PAY sites and not really offer anything without the $ investment from participants. The services like RevShark, Trader Fred and the Ebbnflow Trading system, yes will cost a premium. I think you will still will be able to bander on the Message Board about your IFTs and give your opinions on the state of the Market and World Economy. Tom now offers Free [FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica]TSP Talk Commentary, Email alerts, many tools, utilities and a bunch of other good information like the Sentiment Survey Results These should go on as they are now, FREE![/FONT]
So stay and find out how things will end up, I think you WILL like it! I'll be here!
Norman:D
 
nnuut, etal,

In days long gone!

My Dad had a place of business with a coke machine that sold 6 oz. sodas for 5 cents. You had to lift up the top, slide the soda along a rail into a discharge box, deposit 5 cents and pull the soda up out of the box....Wa-la!
The soda distributer always wanted to sell my Dad a new soda machine. Nothing doing, my Dad wouldn't buy!
He would say, business is good, that coke machine invites folks in. It's a great deal, and as they drink their soda, they tend to stay and buy more! If I gave it away free they would be suspicious. If I charged the regular price, we are just like the rest, why do business here.

The problem was, I was the person who had to refill the dang thing!

Spaf
 
I may be persuaded to pay $15 per month, but it seems steep to me.
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If your TSP account balance is $10,000, today's gains in the ebbchart system would have made you enough to pay for a 2-year subscription. If you're at $100,000 you made enough today for a 20-year subscription. A $500K account... :)
 
tsptalk said:
If your TSP account balance is $10,000, today's gains in the ebbchart system would have made you enough to pay for a 2-year subscription. If you're at $100,000 you made enough today for a 20-year subscription. A $500K account... :)
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But not until you cash it out. Just because I have X amount in the TSP doesn't mean that I have $180 cash in the bank each year to spare ....
 
I guess my point was that it is priced reasonably for what you get. If you can't afford it, that's another story. I would feed my family before spending it on a system. :)
 
I know the information I recieve here is money from other people's time. Don't get me wrong, I know there is time invested for the systems presented to us here but, couldn't you go outside (advertising) for revenue generation?

I have people coming to this site almost everyday now and I always sell it as "free". If you start charging, I can't tout this site for the resource it has become.

I know it's a thin line to walk when there is money involved. How about generating some Venture Capital (I'm interested), get some advertising $$, and maybe start a "teaser" program that gives people basic information but charge for the "Premium". Then go public and we live on easy street!

My $0.02

:cool:
 
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