P&F Chart School

No big moves anywhere today. The chart is not showing anything new. To me, that tends in indicate next move will be down again. Oil is back up a little, Iran test fired some missles making people nervous, and nothing in the stock news is a mover and shaker today, so we'll probably peter out this cycle without any big move up. VIX is still weak.

I could be wrong, but there still isn't anything showing which indicates a positive move. So I'll sit on the sidelines another day and watch.

Best of luck.
 
I noticed in an article I read last night that the bottom trendline of the VIX coincided with the S&P 500's peaks. Every time the VIX touched the bottom of the trendline, it was a Peak for stocks. The VIX touched the trendline yesterday.
 
It looks like the S&P will end up giving back everything it gained yesterday, or darn close.

Still pessimistic.

Wait mode continues.
 
Stick to your plan Stan. That is what I tell myself. I won't let the negative hype blow me out at the wrong time now that I've made my decision to ride this nasty cycle. I will not cut and run - no bottom yet but it's coming and I will survive this one too. I can't help buying these financial stocks - even ABK.
 
Well, another day, another ugly chart.

This time, we ended almost exactly at the low of the day. That last hour was particularly painful. I've highlighted that the low of the day was just decimals off what had been the low of the day. No buyers to be found, and everything continuing down. We didn't get another "O" to appear, because for that we need to go and hold below 1240. However, we're not very far off that mark right now.


Under us here, there appears to be a support level at 1220-1224, which may or may not be the pause point. I actually think that will be a one or two day rebound point- 1220-1224, however, I still have absolutely no idea when the market is going to say "Enough!". We still are barely 25 on the VIX chart, so the gut says at l4east another day of bloodletting before we pause for a brief moment.

Now, let's talk about that pause ahead. It will come at some point. Two days ago we had a 1.7% bounce up, but then it came right back down again. I really don't see anything- any outside event yet- that will make the market capitulate. And the darn P&F chart keeps telling me everyday that the bottom is not expected until 1050 range. Although the last three days are forming some interesting patterns in my head. Lower low? Not this time. Look closely at the last three days, and we may be seeing a rounding of the bottom curve. It's not enough to say anything, other than to just note the shapes we are getting the last three days, and keeping vigilance for more data points on which to base decisions.

I really don't think it will hit all the way to 1050. And picking a bottom is a near impossibility. Picking wrong will be very costly. But so will not being ready to jump back in in the event we DO see a bottom form, and then being stuck out in "G" because we've used up our moves for the month.

Oh well.

I'll just sit back and watch.

And be ready and watching for the bottom.

Dang those TSP employees who limited trades for just such an occasion as what we are about to get. A pox on their Metro commuter trains :-)

We're down over 14% on the S&P500 since Jan 1. And in a bear market like this, it is MUCH better to be off on the sidelines and waiting for the trend to change, than to be in at the wrong moment.

Reminds me of a sign. A reminder NOT to try and catch a blip up during a real live bear market, which it looks like we have in full bloom right now.



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I'm steering clear at least one more day.

You have to decide what you want to do.

After all, it's YOUR money.
 
Note:

When EVERYONE is screaming about the bears- that is usually the first indicator that the bears have devoured everything they are going to and are ready to begin leaving. We're not quite there yet.

1050 on the downside? I don't think so. But that is what the P&F chart is saying, so until hard data indicates otherwise, I tend to believe lower ahead. This may just be the first wave down here.
 
So far this month:


C fund down
-2.65

S fund down
-4.39

I fund down
-3.59

That's the third month in a row for significant declines. Perhaps we're almost ready for a breather.
 
Another "o" at 1240 oh oh. :worried: But it looks like it's bouncing away from it. Maybe? I don't think we will know until after 2:00 what this crazy market is doing. Until then the water around my toes is getting rather warm.
 
I'm going for it.

I see some things I will write about tonight- Not everything I was looking for, but it's enough to get me to take the risk and dive back in.

You only live once.



See my IFT in today's IFT of the day.

Here is why:

1. the last day or two we're getting mixed messages. And we are approaching what I think will be a resistance point- the 1220-1224 mark. Even if this is the wrong move, we SHOULD see a pause at the 1220-1224 mark to enable time to exit and pull a parachute. The case against that is that we also got a revision to the price objective today- down now to 1030 (was 1050). Not a good sign. But we've fallen fast and hard, and have a weekend coming up, so I am banking on two or perhaps three days of relief.

Here's the P&F for the S&P500:



2. The "S" fund is hitting up against a resistance point as well. We're down over 4% since the start of the month. I'm looking for a bounce up perhaps half that amount, before we head back down again. "S" techincally is showing at the bottom range while in a "bullish support" mode, if it breaks downward we'll pick up the red line. But if not, then we'll get a pop upward.

Overall, I see an "even" or better chance that the next few days will be slightly up, then followed by more bad news later in the month. SO I am pulling the trigger today.​
 
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The bad news-

It's a bloody red day. (JHT- you were right- one more day would have been right).

The good news:

1. VIX now at 29.17. Very ready for the rebound.

2. We touched 1225 today. I have been talking about 1220-1224 being the resistance level. I think we've hit it now.

3. Panic everywhere else is traditionally a sign that we're about to capitulate. When the headlines sing about it, then is when.


Come on lucky dice- daddy needs a new pair of shoes.......
 
I sure wanted to jump in today, but I'd also like to make my last IFT count. I'm having a hard time believing in anything other than the downside. Did you notice we have yet to penatrate/close above the S&Ps downward trend line since before June? I may miss out on Monday's rally and look like the village idiot, but I'm at peace with that for now... :suspicious:

Best wishes to everyone invested...;)
 
A question from someone who knows nothing about the P&F !

If someone could draw a trend line (under the existing red lines) to reflect
the bottoms (forming a channel), doesn't it look like we're close (but not there)
to the bottom of this down turn ? :confused:

I'd love for someone to post that on my thread and highlite what number
does it hit. It looks to be around 1170 ?
 
A question from someone who knows nothing about the P&F !

If someone could draw a trend line (under the existing red lines) to reflect
the bottoms (forming a channel), doesn't it look like we're close (but not there)
to the bottom of this down turn ? :confused:

I'd love for someone to post that on my thread and highlite what number
does it hit. It looks to be around 1170 ?
Yes it does. We actually broke below the January and March lows' trend line support this morning. The fact that we are crawling back to that support, is a good sign for a short-term capitulation...But yes, we may have to revist the longer-term support line that you mentioned, later this year - in my opinion.
 
Yes it does. We actually broke below the January and March lows' trend line support this morning. The fact that we are crawling back to that support, is a good sign for a short-term capitulation...But yes, we may have to revist the longer-term support line that you mentioned, later this year - in my opinion.

Thanks Tom, I'm learning everyday !
Forgetting everyday too ! Comes with the age ! :embarrest:
 
I bought in 50G & 50C


This means I will be doing everything in my power to rally the market and make an exit on Friday.

I'll be starting several rumors tomorrow....

Iran will be giving away free oil and will make amends with its neighbors.

Congress will be working in secret to pass an emerergncy energy plan which will include plans to invade Canada and Mexico to steel their oil.

The Financials will win the lottery and stock holders will be rushing to buy.

Now if I could only hack into the Assoicated Press... :rolleyes:
 
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