Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize

If only we and the mass media had listened to the message sent by the Nobel Prize Committee when they awarded the Peace Prize to Jimmy Carter in 2002, and to Mohamed ElBaradei in 2005. America would still be the most respected nation in the world,thousands of people would not have lost their lives, and there would have been no loss of foreign markets, collapse of the economy, soaring unemployment, and the loss of home and retirement assets of millions of people.

I think the Nobel Committee has been trying to send us an important message for some time now. I know, maybe we should listen.

Phil,

Of course! If only we would listen to a group of five Norwegians, who obviously have the inherent wisdom and forethought to know what is best for our country. I know it’s old fashioned, but I still cling to two notions: that we have the greatest country in the history of mankind, and that we should always act in our interest first, then the interests of the “world” at large.

If only we had known that the secret to our success lay in the hands of the Committee! Imagine the untold prosperity in peace and treasure the world would have seen!!!! You’re right, we should have listened to the Nobel Committee when they honored Carter with their award – at that exact moment we should have listened and taken note that the committee was utterly void of usefulness, and undeniably a partisan tool of the European liberal elite in furtherance of their agenda . Jimmy Carter!?!? Are you kidding me? Give him an award for Habitat for Humanity, that is a truly noble cause. But don’t bestow accolades on a man who sides more often with Palestinian terrorist groups than Israel, who directly meddles in U.S. foreign affairs long after his nightmarish administration left office, and continues to rouse the rabble with his incendiary racist rhetoric in an effort to do what no one but the peanut farmer himself comprehends.

Mohamed ElBaradei – championed by Western elite and the anti-American bloc. Been in the job several years now, all the while “trying” to prevent Iran from developing the bomb when in fact he seems more content ridiculing America, Israel and anyone else who says Iran is close to bomb fruition. He claims the Iranian ruling elite aren’t “fanatics,” and claims “Israel is the number one threat to [the] Middle East.” Even France accused him of withholding critical information relative to Iran’s progress in their pursuit of the bomb. His credibility is worthless – but that didn’t stop the Nobel Committee from lauding his accomplishments in checking U.S. intentions.

Victor Hanson Davis summed up ElBaradei perfectly the other day:

"Director General of the International Atomic Energy Agency Mohamed ElBaradei is a living metaphor for all that is wrong with post-Western society. He now proclaims that Israel — democratic and constitutional — is the "number one threat" to the Middle East. That he made this comment from Tehran — after his hosts have serially promised to wipe Israel off the map, and after his own agency missed an entire weapons facility run by an autocratic theocracy — says it all.

ElBaradei, who was educated in the West, and much of whose family lives in the safety and prosperity of the West, has made a career of appeasing Iran, lecturing Westerners about their assorted sins, and saying nothing about the dictatorship in Egypt (for which he once worked). Indeed, beyond Egypt, he has said nothing about the Middle East's self-induced pathologies — from tribalism, gender apartheid, and statism to dictatorship and religious intolerance — which are a far more significant cause of the region's economic stagnation than is Western colonialism.

That ElBaradei has been showered with awards from Western governments and universities — among them the Nobel Prize — reveals how well he understands the West's timidity and lack of principle. He knows that he and his family are safer and freer outside Egypt than they are inside Egypt, and he knows that Israel is not going to nuke its neighbors or announce that it would like to wipe Syria or Egypt off the map. He also knows that elites in the West like to be chided by Westernized non-Westernizers about their assorted sins — it allows those Western elites to alleviate their guilt at very little cost.

In short, if ElBaradei didn't exist, he would have to be invented."


http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NjZiMzBhNWJhNDIxYjdiMmYxNzFmZjU3ODljZTAxMDc=
 
Sometimes it's better to just say NOTHING!
"nnuut":suspicious:

I've looked on many women with lust. I've committed adultery in my heart many times. God knows I will do this and forgives me.
Jimmy Carter
I can make a firm pledge, under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes.
Barack Obama
I will cut taxes - cut taxes - for 95 percent of all working families, because, in an economy like this, the last thing we should do is raise taxes on the middle class.
Barack Obama
 
I can make a firm pledge, under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes.
Barack Obama
I will cut taxes - cut taxes - for 95 percent of all working families, because, in an economy like this, the last thing we should do is raise taxes on the middle class.
Barack Obama

Book mark it! lol:laugh:
 
The Tax on my residence went up $400 this year, they canceled the Homestead Exemption and raised the millage!! They said it was due to Declining state revenues during the current recession means there is no money for the state to give tax relief to homeowners, the grants will only be given in the future if state revenues grow at least 3% plus the rate of inflation.
The state also kept my income tax return until the end of September, they said they had a manpower shortage and couldn't process the claims that were submitted by mail for 6 Months. That's a crock, they used my refund money all year and decided to use it for another 6 months, THAT WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN!!:nuts:
 
I'm glad you agree. As far as the polemic against both Carter and El-Baradei. Blessed are the peacemakers. It's all well and good to attack both of these people, and I see now why you're attacking President Obama, since he's trying to actually do something about these problems, rather than adding to them.

In short, one need only to read why both of these men were nominated for the prize, and the trouble they've had from us, to realize why they've received the Nobel prize.

Phil,

Of course! If only we would listen to a group of five Norwegians, who obviously have the inherent wisdom and forethought to know what is best for our country. I know it’s old fashioned, but I still cling to two notions: that we have the greatest country in the history of mankind, and that we should always act in our interest first, then the interests of the “world” at large.

If only we had known that the secret to our success lay in the hands of the Committee! Imagine the untold prosperity in peace and treasure the world would have seen!!!! You’re right, we should have listened to the Nobel Committee when they honored Carter with their award – at that exact moment we should have listened and taken note that the committee was utterly void of usefulness, and undeniably a partisan tool of the European liberal elite in furtherance of their agenda . Jimmy Carter!?!? Are you kidding me? Give him an award for Habitat for Humanity, that is a truly noble cause. But don’t bestow accolades on a man who sides more often with Palestinian terrorist groups than Israel, who directly meddles in U.S. foreign affairs long after his nightmarish administration left office, and continues to rouse the rabble with his incendiary racist rhetoric in an effort to do what no one but the peanut farmer himself comprehends.

Mohamed ElBaradei – championed by Western elite and the anti-American bloc. Been in the job several years now, all the while “trying” to prevent Iran from developing the bomb when in fact he seems more content ridiculing America, Israel and anyone else who says Iran is close to bomb fruition. He claims the Iranian ruling elite aren’t “fanatics,” and claims “Israel is the number one threat to [the] Middle East.” Even France accused him of withholding critical information relative to Iran’s progress in their pursuit of the bomb. His credibility is worthless – but that didn’t stop the Nobel Committee from lauding his accomplishments in checking U.S. intentions.

Victor Hanson Davis summed up ElBaradei perfectly the other day:

"Director General of the International Atomic Energy Agency Mohamed ElBaradei is a living metaphor for all that is wrong with post-Western society. He now proclaims that Israel — democratic and constitutional — is the "number one threat" to the Middle East. That he made this comment from Tehran — after his hosts have serially promised to wipe Israel off the map, and after his own agency missed an entire weapons facility run by an autocratic theocracy — says it all.

ElBaradei, who was educated in the West, and much of whose family lives in the safety and prosperity of the West, has made a career of appeasing Iran, lecturing Westerners about their assorted sins, and saying nothing about the dictatorship in Egypt (for which he once worked). Indeed, beyond Egypt, he has said nothing about the Middle East's self-induced pathologies — from tribalism, gender apartheid, and statism to dictatorship and religious intolerance — which are a far more significant cause of the region's economic stagnation than is Western colonialism.

That ElBaradei has been showered with awards from Western governments and universities — among them the Nobel Prize — reveals how well he understands the West's timidity and lack of principle. He knows that he and his family are safer and freer outside Egypt than they are inside Egypt, and he knows that Israel is not going to nuke its neighbors or announce that it would like to wipe Syria or Egypt off the map. He also knows that elites in the West like to be chided by Westernized non-Westernizers about their assorted sins — it allows those Western elites to alleviate their guilt at very little cost.

In short, if ElBaradei didn't exist, he would have to be invented."


http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NjZiMzBhNWJhNDIxYjdiMmYxNzFmZjU3ODljZTAxMDc=
 
The Tax on my residence went up $400 this year, they canceled the Homestead Exemption and raised the millage!! They said it was due to Declining state revenues during the current recession means there is no money for the state to give tax relief to homeowners, the grants will only be given in the future if state revenues grow at least 3% plus the rate of inflation.
The state also kept my income tax return until the end of September, they said they had a manpower shortage and couldn't process the claims that were submitted by mail for 6 Months. That's a crock, they used my refund money all year and decided to use it for another 6 months, THAT WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN!!:nuts:

That's not very nice.

Amazing that they did that- when your governor is a republican, the state senate is controlled by republicans, and the state house is controlled by republicans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/150th_General_Assembly_of_the_State_of_Georgia

So how is it they were able to get such tax increases passed?

Just wondering.


(fire them all, everywhere, and start from scratch.)
 
Those pesky ol' facts, and ALWAYS so dad burned quick to blame the same old folks all the time. That'll git ya into trouble and also show a lack of....:D Thank goodness for the socialists reference of choice, wiki. :laugh: Note to self or.... someone...;) must do more indepth research.

CB
 
That's not very nice.

Amazing that they did that- when your governor is a republican, the state senate is controlled by republicans, and the state house is controlled by republicans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/150th_General_Assembly_of_the_State_of_Georgia

So how is it they were able to get such tax increases passed?

Just wondering.


(fire them all, everywhere, and start from scratch.)

Property taxes are set by the local county. Metro Atlanta is as Dimoratic as Detroit.

Politicians!!! they all have numerous traits in common, you know that Jim. :cool:
 
Property taxes are set by the local county. Metro Atlanta is as Dimoratic as Detroit.

The State controls the homestead exemption tax in Georgia, and the governor has power to set certain tax rates. In addition, the state government in Georgia has the power to direct local governments to change rates.

http://aysps.gsu.edu/frc/files/Rpt_174FIN.pdf

It looks like they don't call it a tax increase, if the value of the property goes down. They only call it a tax increase if the OVERALL amount collected goes down.

Go figure.

Seems to me like Georgia suffers from too much of that "local control"--allowing local government to set taxes too easily.
I guess that is the flip side of doing property taxes that way. I wonder if the citizens will get "up in arms" about it, and decide to change who controls the tax base and process.
 
Outrageous! The state is controlled by Republicans, and they're STILL raising local taxes on poor McDuck? I don't know the specifics, but it seems to me that something isn't quite right here.
 
I've just now realized that the Nobel folks still have their affirmative action quota system still intact - that's so outdated.
 
...President Obama, since he's trying to actually do something about these problems, rather than adding to them...

Pray tell, my dear comrade, what exactly is President Obama doing about "these problems?" If you equate "talking" with "doing," as I suspect you are, I am afraid you confuse the issue.

Of course, the larger issue lost in translation is that a great many do not consider the "problems" the president and his many admirers trumpet as "problems," are, in fact problems. Rather, they reflect the realities of the world we live in (strangely, something conveniently forgotten by supporters of the self-proclaimed "realist" president).

The utopian vision of the world you and the president espouse as a worthy goal has it's uses (however slight), but none so seriously endanger our hard-fought position as the leader of the free world as the singular issue that this administration seem so intent on achieving: returning our United States to the status of a mere equal amongst nations. The very thought is so utterly cockeyed it begs credibility, yet deserves scorn from anyone who thinks of the implications of such a demonstratively naïve sentiment. It’s no wonder echoes of the “amateur hour” refrain is heard around the world as this administration manages to makes it way through each day.

No inclination is as absurd - or dangerous - as this direct refutation of the blood, sweat and tears poured out by Americans on battlefields near and far, as well as the hard work and innovation that has made our economy the envy of the world (you don't think the European Union came about because they liked those shiny Euro coins do you?). Just imagine the world of the past one hundred years without a United States providing leadership - not just “talk”, but the action and actual “walk” to back it up. Imagine the untold suffering and utter destruction if but for the grace of American values and willingness to do the right thing when it would have been all too easy to sit back, rest on our laurels, and hope that the evil in this world would consume itself. Thankfully, our country has bred men and women in every generation who know better than to risk our own prosperity and freedom on the words of world opinion that rarely (if ever) has the interests of the United States foremost amongst its intentions.

So, remember, while you sit back, snugly under the blanket of freedom and security our country provides, all the while denigrating that very country, there are millions – nay, billions – who would gladly change places with you. I hope that is not lost in translation.
 
So, remember, while you sit back, snugly under the blanket of freedom and security our country provides, all the while denigrating that very country, there are millions – nay, billions – who would gladly change places with you. I hope that is not lost in translation.

Yeah, what he said. nyuk, nyuk.

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Hey, nominations for next year's prize ought to be opening soon. Send in your cards and letters!

But does any one here know anything about the winners of the ECONOMICS prize? Want to hear what got them the award?

"Professor Oliver E Williamson, the academy said, developed a theory where business firms served as structures for conflict resolution.

The University of Berkeley California academic has argued that hierarchical organisations such as companies represent alternative governance structures, which differ in their approaches to resolving conflicts of interest.

"Over the last three decades, these seminal contributions have advanced economic governance research from the fringe to the forefront of scientific attention," the academy said.

They're saying that in our time of globalisation of manufacturing and finance, the boardroom has overtaken the cabinet in global governance, and that business now has the means to supercede government in resolving disputes. It has long been true that our largest corporations have larger revenues and expenditures than many many countries.

It looks like the title CEO will mean more than POTUS within our lifetimes. So pick the leader of your favorite company and write 'em in!

I'd like to see the government get out of war altogether and leave the field to private industy. -- Joseph Heller
 
American Exceptionalism

John Steele Gordon - 10.12.2009 - 9:13 AM

The winners of the Nobel Prize in economics were announced today. They are two Americans, Elinor Ostrom of Indiana University and Oliver Williamson of UC Berkeley.

So now that all the 2009 prizes have been awarded, let’s recap: The Nobel in medicine went to three Americans. The Nobel in physics went to three Americans. The Nobel in chemistry went to two Americans and one Israeli. The Nobel in literature went to a German. The Nobel Peace Prize went to an American, and now the Nobel in economics has gone to two Americans.

Thus, of the 13 winners this year, 11 are Americans. A country with 4 percent of the world’s population produced 85 percent of the winners. To be sure, we are to some extent playing with numbers here. After all, Israel, with .08 percent of the world’s population, produced 7 percent of the winners. But over the 108 years they have been handing out Nobel Prizes, the number won by American citizens is exceptionally large.

I wonder if that fact embarrasses this year’s Nobel Peace Prize winner.

American Exceptionalism - John Gordon, Contentions
 
I think that the "talking" that people did was what brought about our engagement with the rest of the world. We've seen the results of our policy of acting unilaterally around the world. No, I don't confuse the issue. I just don't think unilateralism is the best course for us. That's where realism comes in. I recognize that we don't operate in a vacuum around the world. Bringing the US as an equal amongst nations? I think that was why we helped to create the UN and NATO, to provide some forum for nations to cooperate with each other to resolve problems, not to dictate, but educate.

Sitting snugly? I don't think so. Thanks for the ad hominem.

Finally, it's not about me, but about President Obama winning the Nobel Peace Prize. I think it's always a good thing when our president wins international recognition.

Pray tell, my dear comrade, what exactly is President Obama doing about "these problems?" If you equate "talking" with "doing," as I suspect you are, I am afraid you confuse the issue.

Of course, the larger issue lost in translation is that a great many do not consider the "problems" the president and his many admirers trumpet as "problems," are, in fact problems. Rather, they reflect the realities of the world we live in (strangely, something conveniently forgotten by supporters of the self-proclaimed "realist" president).

The utopian vision of the world you and the president espouse as a worthy goal has it's uses (however slight), but none so seriously endanger our hard-fought position as the leader of the free world as the singular issue that this administration seem so intent on achieving: returning our United States to the status of a mere equal amongst nations. The very thought is so utterly cockeyed it begs credibility, yet deserves scorn from anyone who thinks of the implications of such a demonstratively naïve sentiment. It’s no wonder echoes of the “amateur hour” refrain is heard around the world as this administration manages to makes it way through each day.

No inclination is as absurd - or dangerous - as this direct refutation of the blood, sweat and tears poured out by Americans on battlefields near and far, as well as the hard work and innovation that has made our economy the envy of the world (you don't think the European Union came about because they liked those shiny Euro coins do you?). Just imagine the world of the past one hundred years without a United States providing leadership - not just “talk”, but the action and actual “walk” to back it up. Imagine the untold suffering and utter destruction if but for the grace of American values and willingness to do the right thing when it would have been all too easy to sit back, rest on our laurels, and hope that the evil in this world would consume itself. Thankfully, our country has bred men and women in every generation who know better than to risk our own prosperity and freedom on the words of world opinion that rarely (if ever) has the interests of the United States foremost amongst its intentions.

So, remember, while you sit back, snugly under the blanket of freedom and security our country provides, all the while denigrating that very country, there are millions – nay, billions – who would gladly change places with you. I hope that is not lost in translation.
 
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