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HERE WE GO AGAIN!!!:nuts:

Wall Street bets on more Fed cuts

The market still expects the Fed to cut rates again next week but some economists say not so fast.

By Paul R. La Monica, CNNMoney.com editor at large
January 22 2008: 1:05 PM EST

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NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Even though the Federal Reserve slashed its key federal funds rate by three-quarters of a percentage point in an emergency meeting Tuesday, Wall Street is still betting that the central bank will lower rates again next week.
The Fed will hold a two-day meeting that wraps up on January 30. And according to futures listed on the Chicago Board of Trade, investors are pricing in a 100 percent chance of at least a quarter-point cut, to 3.25 percent, and a 66 percent likelihood of a half-point cut, to 3 percent.
"There is a legitimate chance of another cut next week. The Fed wants to stay in front of things and at this stage, they'd rather err on the side of having rates be too easy than too restrictive," said Jack Ablin, chief investment officer with Harris Private Bank.
"The Fed doesn't want to be blamed for making a downturn worse than it already is," Ablin added.
But some market observers said that another rate cut is not guaranteed next week.
"There are already rumors that the Fed may cut more next week but at this point, I would think that they are going to stand pat," said Oscar Gonzalez, economist with John Hancock Financial Services in Boston.
Fed slashes key rate to 3.5%
Gonzalez argues that since the Fed took such drastic action on Tuesday, it may not want to make another move so soon but would rather wait and see what economic data for January and February looks like before cutting rates again.
He thinks the Fed could ultimately lower the fed funds rate to between 2.5 percent and 3 percent if the economy continues to weaken.
Cuts are coming, but don't hold your breath. Ed Yardeni, president of Yardeni Research, an independent market research firm, agreed. He sees more rate cuts ahead...but not next week.
"The Fed probably won't do anything next week. They are going to take a break now and see how things unfold," he said.
But Yardeni added that if the global financial markets continue to plunge in the next few weeks, the Fed may be forced to do another emergency rate cut before it meets again on March 18.
Proceed with caution. John Norris, managing director with Oakworth Capital Bank, a private bank in Birmingham, Ala., said he thinks the Fed might cut rates again next week but he is hopeful that the Fed doesn't go much lower.
Norris said that a federal funds rate of 3 percent would be low enough to stimulate growth again without risking too much in the way of inflation. But he is concerned the Fed may cut rates too much.
Some economists have argued that the Fed lowered rates too aggressively during the 2001 recession -- the federal funds rate eventually bottomed out at 1 percent -- and that those historically low rates helped encourage the type of reckless subprime lending that is the root of the current economic crisis.
"I hope the Fed is not that foolish to jeopardize long-term financial health just for short-term stimulus. So if they cut rates again next week, hopefully that will be it for a very long time," Norris said. http://money.cnn.com/2008/01/22/news/economy/fed_lookahead/index.htm?postversion=2008012212
 
Do you believe they are actually going to do this REBATE THING?:mad:
BANDAID AND A VERY small ONE!:worried:

House Leaders Meet With Treasury Secretary Paulson on Economic Stimulus Bill Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, right, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, second from left, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, center,and Sen Joseph Lieberman, I-Conn., left, speak to reporters at the White House, Tuesday, Jan. 22, 2008, in Washington, after meeting with President Bush about the global market turmoil. (AP Photo/Ron Edmonds)01-23-2008 9:50 AM
By ANDREW TAYLOR, Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON (Associated Press) -- Top House leaders met at the Capitol with Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson Wednesday on a plan to try to jolt the economy out of its slump.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, are taking the lead in Capitol Hill negotiations, with the centerpiece of the measure expected to be a tax rebate similar to the $300-$600 checks sent out in the summer of 2001. The two huddled for a lengthy working breakfast with Paulson, Bush's point man on the package. No details were immediately available on the meeting.
A host of senior lawmakers in both parties met on Tuesday with President Bush, who has proposed a stimulus plan worth about $150 billion. He again expressed optimism that his administration can reach quick agreement with Congress.
"I believe we can find common ground to get something done that's big enough, effective enough so that an economy that is inherently strong gets a boost _ to make sure that this uncertainty doesn't translate into more economic woes for our workers and small business people," Bush said in the Cabinet Room.
Pelosi, Boehner and Paulson are working on hammering out details. Senate leaders Harry Reid, D-Nev., and Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., have agreed to stand back and let the House take the lead in the talks with the administration.
In the Senate, Reid said in an interview, "There are too many cooks in the kitchen. Send something over to us and we'll try to move it as quickly as we can."
Perhaps the most important obstacle to overcome is differences of opinion over who should receive rebate checks. Democrats want to deliver help to low-income workers who may not pay income taxes because they make too little or benefit from tax credits such as the child tax credit.

Thus far, talks have focused on setting the parameters of a bill combining rebates with GOP-sought tax breaks for businesses, as well as Democratic-backed help for the unemployed and those on food stamps.
Talks continued as the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, citing the weakening economy, estimated that the budget deficit for the current year will jump to about $250 billion. That figure does not reflect at least $100 billion in likely additional red ink from the deficit-financed economic stimulus measure.
Senate Budget Committee Chairman Kent Conrad, D-N.D., said the 2008 deficit would reach more than $350 billion once the costs of the upcoming stimulus measure are factored in.
Both sides have seemed to negotiate in good faith. Republicans and Bush declined to insist on extending Bush's 2001 and 2003 tax cuts that expire in three years, while Democrats offered up tax breaks for business and limited their roster of spending proposals. Democrats also agreed to waive budget rules requiring tax increases to finance the measure.
On a visit to Cairo Wednesday, Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman told reporters that high oil prices are starting to adversely affect the U.S. economy.
"The economy has been able to withstand it until now," Bodman said. "I believe the 100 dollar price of oil is starting to have an impact," he said.
Bodman has been touring the Middle East to talk about energy, security and other issues.
Oil has retreated from a record high of above $100 barrel earlier this month and is now trading at around $88 a barrel on concerns that a slowing U.S. economy would reduce energy demand.http://middlegeorgia.cox.net/cci/ne...=article&id=D8UBL9PO2&_action=validatearticle
 
Changing TRADE RESTRICTIONS!!! NOW THAT'S PART of what I WAS TALKING ABOUT! GO GEORGE there is more that needs to be done!:nuts:
I wonder who told him?:confused:
 
30% "C", 50% "S", 20% "I" COB today. Think there might be a couple of more days to this uptick so I'm in, need to buy low, but this is a BEAR market and do expect another test of the lows.:cool:
 
What did happen to those two? Must have tried to meld into one and completely disappeared!:confused:
This momentum may be short lived, but counting on the Fed and the REBATE PUSHERS to give it short term legs.:cool:
 
HUBBA, HUBBA!
Microsoft Reports Record Second Quarter Results
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Robust holiday sales and enterprise demand drive revenue growth of 30%
January 24, 2008: 04:15 PM EST


REDMOND, Wash., Jan. 24 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Microsoft Corp. today announced second quarter records for revenue, operating income and diluted earnings per share of $16.37 billion, $6.48 billion and $0.50, respectively. Compared to the year ago period, these figures represent growth of 30%, 87% and 92% for revenue, operating income and diluted earnings per share, respectively.
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Results in the prior year were impacted by the deferral of $1.64 billion of revenue and operating income and $0.11 of diluted earnings per share from the second to the third quarter of fiscal 2007, due primarily to technology guarantee programs. Without these deferrals, second quarter growth rates for revenue, operating income and earnings per share would be 15%, 27% and 32%, respectively.
"Revenue of over $16 billion this quarter exceeds our previous record by $2 billion," said Chris Liddell, chief financial officer at Microsoft. "We are extremely pleased by the broad based strength of our business performance and field execution. Throughout the first half of our fiscal year, all of our businesses met or beat our expectations." [more] http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/prnewswire/AQTH094A24012008-1.htm
 
HUBBA, HUBBA!
Microsoft Reports Record Second Quarter Results
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Robust holiday sales and enterprise demand drive revenue growth of 30%
January 24, 2008: 04:15 PM EST


REDMOND, Wash., Jan. 24 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Microsoft Corp. today announced second quarter records for revenue, operating income and diluted earnings per share of $16.37 billion, $6.48 billion and $0.50, respectively. Compared to the year ago period, these figures represent growth of 30%, 87% and 92% for revenue, operating income and diluted earnings per share, respectively.
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Results in the prior year were impacted by the deferral of $1.64 billion of revenue and operating income and $0.11 of diluted earnings per share from the second to the third quarter of fiscal 2007, due primarily to technology guarantee programs. Without these deferrals, second quarter growth rates for revenue, operating income and earnings per share would be 15%, 27% and 32%, respectively.
"Revenue of over $16 billion this quarter exceeds our previous record by $2 billion," said Chris Liddell, chief financial officer at Microsoft. "We are extremely pleased by the broad based strength of our business performance and field execution. Throughout the first half of our fiscal year, all of our businesses met or beat our expectations." [more] http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/prnewswire/AQTH094A24012008-1.htm

Just keep that picture (you know which one I'm talking about) in the back of your mind and you got some smooth sailing com'on your way.
 
I was afraid of this! Look at that face, I love it. Hope the Senate makes some logical changes, but quickly!:worried:

Senate May Scuttle House's Agreement With Bush on Stimulus Plan

By Alison Fitzgerald
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Jan. 25 (Bloomberg) -- The bipartisan agreement on an economic stimulus package reached by House leaders was immediately undermined by senators intent on ensuring that their ideas get a hearing before any bill becomes law.
Even before House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California and the chamber's minority leader, John Boehner of Ohio, stood together yesterday on Capitol Hill to announce their agreement, Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, a Montana Democrat, said he planned to introduce his own bill.
After a week of talk about the need for speed and cooperation among Democrats and Republicans, the House leaders agreed with the Bush administration on a plan to distribute rebate checks to 117 million families earning at least $3,000, give businesses incentives to invest in equipment and allow federally chartered mortgage-finance companies Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to buy mortgages of up to $729,750.
``This is all great for Pelosi and Boehner and Hank Paulson having a big love fest together, but what about the Senate?'' said Alex Brill, a research fellow at the Washington-based American Enterprise Institute and former adviser to the tax- writing House Ways and Means Committee.
He said the deal between the House and the administration may founder in the Senate. Pelosi and Boehner agreed that the Senate may stray from their agreement.
`Senatorial Roles'
``This is not going to preclude the Senate from being the Senate and doing what they do,'' Boehner, 58, said at a news conference yesterday with Pelosi and Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson. ``Far be it from me to predict what the Senate might do in their very senatorial roles,'' said Pelosi, 67.
Lawmakers are racing to enact a stimulus measure to try to counter escalating risks of a recession. The Federal Reserve this week made an emergency cut in its benchmark overnight lending rate, lowering it three-quarters of a point to 3.5 percent.
In a statement yesterday, President George W. Bush said the U.S. economy faces short-term disruptions in the housing market and rising energy prices. ``The country needs this boost to the economy now,'' said Bush, 61. The agreement will result in ``higher consumer spending and increased business investment this year.''
Baucus, 66, said he wants to extend unemployment insurance benefits and ensure that low-income workers get rebates of the same size as middle-class people. ``I think the lower incomes shouldn't be cut off,'' he said.
No `Magical Figure'
Other senators said they wanted to contribute their own provisions and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, a Nevada Democrat, said the House proposal's $150 billion price tag wouldn't be viewed as a ``magical figure.''
Reid, 68, said members of the Senate Finance Committee ``and other senators will work to improve the House package by adding funds for other initiatives that can boost the economy immediately, such as unemployment benefits, nutrition assistance, state relief and infrastructure investment.''
Senator Hillary Clinton, 60, who is seeking the Democratic presidential nomination, said in a statement that she wants to see an extension of unemployment insurance and help for people struggling to pay high energy bills included in any measure.
Her fellow New Yorker, Senator Charles Schumer, the No. 3 Democratic leader, said his goal would be to win approval of additional unemployment benefits for laid-off workers. ``It's the most effective way to move the economy forward,'' said Schumer, 57.
Infrastructure Spending
Senator Ron Wyden, an Oregon Democrat, said infrastructure spending -- specifically road resurfacing -- would be a faster and better use of the money. ``I'm absolutely convinced that there are infrastructure projects that can get off the ground faster than rebate checks,'' said Wyden, 58.
Individual senators can delay passage of a bill if they decide to fight for a provision. ``Much of what the Senate does is done by unanimous consent,'' Pete Davis, president of Davis Capital Investment Ideas, a Washington-based consulting firm. ``Anything controversial takes a long time to move, if it ever does.''
Davis said Republican senators may also want to put their mark on the stimulus package by using it as a vehicle to make Bush's tax cuts permanent, lowering business taxes and extending energy tax credits.
Under the House plan, individuals would receive rebates of up to $600 and couples may get $1,200, plus $300 per child. Rebates would be phased out for individuals earning more than $75,000 and couples earning more than $150,000. Individuals must earn at least $3,000 to get a $300 rebate.
Rebate Checks
Paulson, 61, said the rebate checks may be mailed 60 days after the proposal becomes law.
The accord also seeks to address the growing number of housing foreclosures by including a provision allowing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the largest U.S. mortgage finance companies, to temporarily buy mortgages of up to $729,750, exceeding a $417,000 federal limit.
Even a prominent Democrat in the House, Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charles Rangel of New York, said he may try to add to the bill, though he won't block it.
``I do not understand, and cannot accept, the resistance of President Bush and Republican leaders to including an extension of unemployment benefits for those who are without work through no fault of their own,'' said Rangel, 77.
To contact the reporter on this story: Alison Fitzgerald in Washington at Afitzgerald2@bloomberg.net http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aDzIggDfdllY&refer=home
 
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made some 2 alarm deer chilli yersterday about 9# man it was gone by the time lunch started ,cold doun here i think a will brew up another batch this weekend light fireplace n grab a cool one i will drink one for you Nnuut:D
 
Man sounds GOOD, send me a Tupperware full, I love that stuff! I promice to send the Tupperware back.:D
 
It's always something:mad:
AP
Stocks Backtrack Amid Hedge Fund Rumors
Friday January 25, 10:46 am ET
By Tim Paradis, AP Business Writer

Stocks Give Up Some of Their Early Gains; Microsoft Results Help Tech Stocks

NEW YORK (AP) -- Stocks gave up some of their early gains Friday as investors grappled with rumors that another hedge fund may have run into financial trouble [more]
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080125/wall_street.html
 
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