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And everybody in the world is looking for you Elvis......gee, I'm going to tell your Uncle at Presley's lake you are still around chasing the girls......

:^
 
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The Technician wrote:
I didn't get on board alot last week or so ........So ....what did you guys do with DMA???? Was he being a bad boy again????:shock:


He ate too many sour grapes, gave him a tummy ache...
 
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ok...now that almost everyone is in G the markets should rally:?

may sit out the next few days.....:h.....nuthin market wise making any sense!

tekno
 
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off tt....

Posted 10:00 CST

Equity Index Update
Wednesday August 17, 2005

The index markets suffered under the weight of institutional selling yesterday. The main culprits seemed to be the weaker than expected Industrial Production reading and further weakness in the retailers after WMT gave disappointing guidance moving forward. Today the markets should focus on the PPI report and any response to yesterday's trading action. However, before traders put on their bounce cap, it is critical to understand that during the expiration weeks it is common for the marketplace to move one-way during the Tuesday - Thursday time period. Given that we rallied and settled higher on Monday, there is a strong chance - after yesterday's action - that we will see a Monday high, and late week low for expiration.

The NDX traded as low as 1572 before a slight bounce into settlement yesterday. The index now has critical support resting between 1565 and 1550. I think this zone is a proper area to scale down buy for those covering short positions. The fact remains that this index is well above the lows seen on the London terrorist bombings - 1484 in the index - and is the current relative strength leader in the marketplace. The short positions placed in early August have played out well, but, I suspect we will test the aforementioned support zone then bounce back towards 1600 around Labor Day.

The SPU settled on key support yesterday, located between 1223 and 1220.50. The tradable downside target remains 1215, any settlement below this zone should lead to a trade of 1205. The key to the downside action appeared with a substantial institutional sell order yesterday beginning at 1232.50 and carried down to 1228.50 before the order was complete. All told their appeared to be a net sale of roughly 2,000 SPU contracts in that zone. The market was never able to recover, only able to drift in a tight range before the final hour selling knocked the index to 1220 before settling at 1221.50. Near term resistance will be the old low zone from last week 1224 to 1225.50, but, the key remains the 1221 to 1219 zone in the CASH market.

The Russell 2000 and MidCap 400 had brutal sessions to the downside and continue to be offered from the institutional community. My tradable targets for short covering remain 645 to 640 in the Russell and 700 to 690 in the MidCap. The fact that the MidCap settled at 705 indicates the relative weakness leader of this downdraft. The Russell settled at 654.90, only 3 points above its settlement of July 7 - the London session. More importantly is that the Russell has now dropped over -5% from its August trading highs. The key question is whether or not we can see -10% before a legitimate bounce opportunity. While it is possible, I continue to think that scale down bids, just above unchanged on the Q3, is the way to cover the current short trades.

As I wrote in Monday's update, this week was critical for the sell side in order to make a move through key support levels. Otherwise I would have to give into the underpinning bid that seemed to be the dominating theme in the marketplace. With yesterday's action, the onus has shifted to the buyers. Clearly we are at some interesting support levels, but, I suspect the buyers are waiting for prices to be a bit more discounted before stepping into the fray. This scenario, if it plays out, is ideal for those who are short and looking to cover over the next couple of sessions. As for my SPU shorts, I will be a scale down buyer between 1217 and 1214.50 in the futures arena. I will also cover 1/2 of my August 1235 puts at those levels, then look to see if the weakness continues until Friday for the final 1/2 of the put position. On the flip side...any bounce above 1230 will leave me utterly confused and scrambling for the antacid bottles and buy tickets.




Good Trading to All,

Brad
 
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The Kingdom of TSP

Daily Edition

Market News, Doodles, Tea Leaves & Yak Date August 17, Closing


Market News.

Kingdom Talk: Market chasing tail! Confusing data on lube? He said, she said!


Doodles and Tea Leaves - Daily.

Doodles:
S&P 500 (Index)
Closed at 1220.24, up +0.90
CMF (money flow) at -0.084, dn
RSI (strength) at 46.0, up
MACD (trend) bearish
S-STO (signal) bearish
ROC (change) at -1.22, bearish

Light Crude (NYM)
Closed at 63.25, dn -2.83

Tea Leaves: Red


Yak.

Remarks: Holding 100/0
S&P Stops: Alert= 1233 [broken], Trail= 1221 [broken].
 
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The 1% jump in the producer price index surprised everyone: Brinker would probably say it is more a reflection on employment numbers and payroll than on oil prices. The F fund took a hit in any event.

We can count on the Fed increasing short term rates to a minimum of 25 basis points until it reaches 4%. There will be no pause; it's baked in the cake.

The market needs, imho, a 10% correction in oil prices; then we will see a rally.
 
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Quips wrote:
The market needs, imho, a 10% correction in oil prices; then we will see a rally.
I agree Quips! At marketwatch today there was conflicting data on the supply and demand for oil. It was like no one knew what was going on! :?
 
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Spaf wrote:
Quips wrote:
The market needs, imho, a 10% correction in oil prices; then we will see a rally.
I agree Quips! At marketwatch today there was conflicting data on the supply and demand for oil. It was like no one knew what was going on! :?
Well, with labor day less than 3 weeks away, and knowing that the trend has been for oil/gas prices to easeat some point followingthat date, perhaps the market is responding accordingly.

I'm sure it's not that simple though. But it has been rising practically straight up.

Found this articleto be rather interesting.

http://www.safehaven.com/article-3623.htm
 
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Addendum

I want to go along with what Birchtree (BT) is saying, because I'm a Bull too! Maybe not as aggressive as BT, but I see his point that the economy is moving on.

Coolhand (CH) had an interesting post with a link to a story about how things can be manipulated to a countries advantage i.e., oil.

Today, it seemed that no one had a good handle on the supply and demand for oil. Oil has been rising faster than stocks. This will fuel inflation and keep the rates going up as the Fed tries to control inflation, sooner or later the economy will suffer.

But is this the truth! Do we really know the truth about oil?

The 6:00 News says Gasoline is way up!

Ok, who is ripping us off! Where is the truth?

The word that comes to mind is: Shannagan. Shindig. suspicious. Partial. Skank. Rank. Mank. Mingerlicious. Funky.

I could be wrong, hope I am. But be careful! :? Spaf
 
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The truth about oil is it is a limited resource. Outside of the Middle East it is technically getting harder and harder to find and extract. Worldwide demand is more or less up. Worldwide (and this is the kicker) refining capacity is down. That appears to be the bottleneck in regards to pricing. Just since MArch in the US there have been two BP refining accidents which has lowered US ability to make gasoline. Even with all this Big oil is still making bucku bucks.
 
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Your right, it is a limited resource. Just not as limited as everyone might think. “Tar sands represent as much as 66% of the world’s deposits of oil..............the remaining 33% in conventional oil, much of it in Saudi Arabia and other Middle-Eastern countries.” Every oil well we “pump dry” still has 60% of it’s total still trapped in the ground. The problem is the cost to extract it. Once the oil no longer flows to the well on its own we have to help it with water injection or steam. Very expensive! Higher oil prices is why we are hearing more about the “tar sands” in Alberta, Canada. This is also why China has become more interested in Alberta’s tar sands.

Point is oil is a limited resource but refineries are more limited. We are consuming vast amounts of oil and must not care enough as a whole because consumption has went up since last year. I still see a lot of SUV’s driving around with one person in them. Boat’s, ATV’s, Sunday drives, daytrips, ect. I remember in early 2001 when I bought gas for around $1.10 a gallon.

As I write this CNBC is reporting the Goldman (the same guy’s that predicted $100 oil) is predicting $60 oil is here to stay. I believe it. As long as consumption stays up and no new refineries are built oil will stay up. Also as our easily pumped oil diminishes we will have to rely more on tar sands and that’s expensive. The only good thing about higher oil prices is that there will be more money for exploration.
 
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Technician, enjoy the read.

http://www.financialsense.com/stormwatch/2005/0624.html

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[align=center][font="Times New Roman, Times"]THE CORE RATE
[/font][font="Times New Roman, Times"]by Jim Puplava
[/font][font=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica]Storm Watch Update
[/font][font=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica]June 24, 2005[/font][/align]
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[align=center]The Disconnect[/align]
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A caller into a Washington D.C. talk show asked a very pertinent question regarding the business of living. “Have they changed the way they measure the rate of inflation? The CPI report in May was zero percent, excluding food and energy. If you take those things out, that is what is primarily driving up everything. What would be the real inflation rate, if you add back everything they take out?" The host of the show turned to his guest, a financial reporter from The New York Times. The host of the show and the Times reporter were caught flatfooted. The Times reporter couldn’t answer the question. The host then went on to say, "The inflation rate as it is reported has been quite low over the last few years. Next caller."
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[font=arial,helvetica,verdana]The caller to the show reflected the growing disconnect between Main Street, Washington and Wall Street. Each month consumers see their living costs go up—whether at the grocery store, the gas station, or at the end of the month when bills are paid. Personal income has stagnated, failing to keep pace with the rise in the cost of living. In the meantime the media keeps spinning any increase—whether it is booming real estate prices, rising gasoline prices, grocery bills, doctor and dentists bills or movie tickets—as nonevents. Prices keep going up. Wages keep falling further behind. It is a repeat of the staginflationary 70’s taxes and inflation. Inflation is on the rise and so are taxes. Property taxes go up each year, making it difficult for homeowners to hang on. The social security base rises each year making more of a worker's income subject to the tax. States are raising sales tax and auxiliary fees, while some states have raised income tax rates. Like many of the items of the CPI index, rising taxes never get counted.[/font]

[font=arial,helvetica,verdana]In effect, what this caller was asking was how and when did they change the way they measure the rate of inflation? On a first hand basis he was experiencing inflation in his personal life with rising food and energy costs. There was a major disconnect between what he experienced in real life on a day-to-day basis and what he was told in published inflation reports. The host of the show and the financial reporter from the Times had no answers.[/font]



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The house of mirrors has many fooled.You seem to be backing into what is real and what's not.Think long and hard about how various metrics or indexes are configured and, do these metrics or indexes remotely reflect todays investing world?Every now and then, in between haveing my "speculating" head handed to me, I will chime in with a comment or interesting read. Good luck in your "investing" endeavors
 
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Good stuff there Red Pill Market Analyst......could've predicted the MO for the current trend in the market over the last two decades......actually, the M3 money supply is doing alot of this inflationary effect....its the only decent way to lower labor costs without just calling in your employee and saying, "By the way, the country is lowering all labor costs, so you're gettting a cut in pay"....its much easier to inflate everything around your employees income....:shock:

Our labor costs and standard of living are too high relative to the rest of the world and our way of life will pay for it.....just watchit go downin 20 years .....it will be worse....if we don't get competitive with third world countries labor wise, then the next economic cycle will go right past us....the articles driving that cycle will be developed and manufactured overseas somewhere else.....:?

I see Wal marts costs of operations will be going up in the future...:x

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050818/bs_nm/retail_walmart_labor_dc;_ylt
=Al1bPy2i.bYL3ouqILIb9u.573QA;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl


Our major "cheap" market store will be raising profits rates to cover this so here we go spiraling down and down and down and the people who have it have it, and those that don't will be stealing what they can....:U

:dude:
 
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Tech, such scenarios have led to war in the past. In fact, it is the classic reason for war. Just read Paul Kennedy, or even Thucydides: "Athens was alarmed at the rapid growth of the Spartan state."

Dave
 
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The Kingdom of TSP

Daily Edition

Market News, Doodles, Tea Leaves & Yak Date August 18, Closing


Market News.

Kingdom Talk: Vestors nervous, stock jitters.


Doodles and Tea Leaves - Daily.

Doodles:
S&P 500 (Index)
Closed at 1219.22, dn -1.22
CMF (money flow) at -0.053, up
RSI (strength) at 45.3, dn
MACD (trend) bearish
S-STO (signal) bearish
ROC (change) at -2.02, bearish

Light Crude (NYM)
Closed at 63.27, dn +0.02

Tea Leaves: Red


Yak.

Remarks: Holding 100/0
S&P Stops: Alert= 1233 [broken], Trail= 1221 [broken].
 
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U know, this market will be looking for a very hard downturn before it jumps back up again later on....its in the behavior pattern for such circumstances like our current one...I believed I mentioned before it could be 1st Oct before we see any rebound....

I'm kinda liking that F fund more and more that I look it over.....I'm still questionable on the interest rate hikes and inflation situation over the next several months...its seems to be like throwing cards in the air and seeing what lands where kinda thing right now.....

:dude:
 
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I just had a Ford idea. If the Dow bottoms at 10,400 it is starting to look like aSouthern Pacific boxcar pattern on the graphs. We could continue this pattern of minimal higher highs and lower lows for sometime, to the point of having a full train. If this pattern were to repeat for several years it would be like looking at a coal train that just seems to run on forever. I would actually prefer this pattern than one that looks like a pool slide. I think futures are still positive this am, so maybe a rebound today.
 
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Birchtree wrote:
I think futures are still positive this am, so maybe a rebound today.
Maybe. But they are wrong too often tohaveany measurablefaith in them as an indicator. I'm looking for a strong rebound, but I don't think we will see it for another 2 - 3 weeks. But u never can be sure.
 
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