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The X factor

Editorial

In the middle of a war, especially when being shot at. We used to have a term called the "pucker factor". I assume everyone knows what I'm talking about now.

A while back someone sent me some photographs of a new roller coaster, bigger and badder then anything else. Any way, the last photograhs showed some ridders getting off the coaster. And, they had wet their pants. I deleted the photographs as junk.

However, in recall, I am now sympathetic with the ridders of the roller coaster. With the recent ride we are taking in the market, I think I need to visit my drug store.

http://www.depend.com/

It's better to be safe than sorry!
 
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I don't typically post my allocations or returns but am curious as to how I am doing in relation to everyone else. I am down 1.23%, is that real bad, about average or good? I have only been moving money and really watching for the last few months and making moves after reading and listening to people on the posts, then making my own dicision. It's kind of hard to know how one is doing when there is nothing to compare it against though. Over the last few weeks I have been moving more and more, slowly into the C & S and am about 75% invested now, hoping the bottom is near.
 
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Shaggy

From YTD as reported: Best is the G-fund at +1.31. Worst is the S-fund at -6.86.

So depending on diversification and timing the numbers may vary somewhere in between.
 
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That was a good day ...

A reprieve for those of you sweating.....hope you take the opportunity to get free so you can wait and see.......

And a "Darn it" day for the rest of us.....

That two really good days out of 3.....anybody want to bet what happens tomorrow????

Fells kinda of like going forth in the dark doesn't it.....there is no telling what is going to happen....but I kinda think that being Friday, after two good days lately.....its so-so or less....

I'm not getting in.....I still see 1100 as a possibility!!!!!
 
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Shaggy wrote:
I don't typically post my allocations or returns but am curious as to how I am doing in relation to everyone else. I am down 1.23%, is that real bad, about average or good? I have only been moving money and really watching for the last few months and making moves after reading and listening to people on the posts, then making my own dicision. It's kind of hard to know how one is doing when there is nothing to compare it against though. Over the last few weeks I have been moving more and more, slowly into the C & S and am about 75% invested now, hoping the bottom is near.
shaggy,

PM me your email address. I will start sending out everyones' trackers (25 posters)starting this weekend. Offer is open to everyone. It's good to see them all side by side in one excel worksheet.
 
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Congrats Tom and all others that got the money today!!!!

I am still out and will wait to see what happens Friday. I hope the bear is dead. However, it may be alive and hurting. That would not be pretty. A hurt bear can be real mean. No longer a nuisance bear, but, a mad bear. So I want to play in the market I just dont feel safe. This is good for the "wall of worry". Perhaps another day or more of good days. I hope, but, I sit in G for now.:?
 
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The Kingdom of TSP

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Market Weather, Tea Leaves & Yak April 21, 2005 Closing


Market weather.

Weather: Cleared quickly. Good earnings and reports let bulls loose in market area. Slowdown fears somewhat soothed. Caution energy horseman still around. Lube closed up 0.17 to $54.20 a bucket.


Charts, and tea leaves.

Chwck: http://money.cnn.com/markets/morning_call/

Charts: S&P ended at 1159 up +22.45
CMF (money flow) ended at -0.156 rising
RSI (strength) [50=mid rg] ended at 44.5 rising
MACD (trend) was at -10.59 bearish but rising

Tea leaves: Mixed red and green: Caution Horsemen can still cause fear and havock as they have not been run out of valley.

Yak.

Remarks: S&P closed on 20th at 1137.50 and opened on the 21st at 1139.30, thus a gap up, (gaps are fairly good indicators).
Holding 50/50. Will see what AM market says. Considering a short breather in G-fund; considering.

Rgds. :) Spaf
 
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PUNDITZ....

Nice Rally, But Doubts Linger
by Rick Ackerman
Friday, Apr 22
http://www.321gold.com/editorials/ackerman/current.html

Patience and er -- faith
by Richard Russell snippet
April 21, 2005
http://www.321gold.com/editorials/russell/russell042105.html

Ode to The Unflappable Mr. Snow
by Warren Pollack
April 21, 2005
http://www.howestreet.com/mainartcl.php?ArticleId=1142&PHPSESSID=dcf93fb898fbec64cb9c7b7cca0fe40...

Dow Theory Letters
by Richard Russell
April 19, 2005
http://www.investmentrarities.com/thebestofrr.html

Gold Low In Awaiting Buy Signal
by Bob Hoye
April 18, 2005
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/hoye042105.html


Stock Market Is Scary Place To Be
by John Crudele
April 21, 2005


TRY finding an expert back in early January who thought the stock market wasn't going to do well in 2005.
Now that everyone was so wrong, try finding anyone who will even offer an opinion. Well, glad you asked: I'll give you mine in a minute.

Back on Jan. 4 this column said "the impressive market rise that began nearly two months ago and accelerated in mid-December is built on such a flimsy foundation that merely pulling the December page off the calendar could create a stiff enough headwind to bring the rally to a halt." Well, despite what everyone on Wall Street was anticipating, the Dow Jones industrial average is already off more than 7 percent in 2005; the Standard & Poor's 500 index is down 6 percent and the Nasdaq Composite has a shocking 12 percent loss.

As a result, the big market measures are now where they were last November.

If things continue the way they have been investors will be in pain by the time professional traders try their next miraculous year-end rally.

My point in that January column was simple: the market went up in December because the big money wanted it to rise, especially as investment managers neared the end of the year and would have to report their then-mediocre results to clients.

That happens all the time, but the difference now is that market analysts started to believe their own nonsense when making rosy 2005 forecasts.

There were too many other things ready to push stocks down — including budget and trade deficits, a Federal Reserve that was trying to boost interest rates, and, that old standby, profit taking.

The bad news is that things have gotten more complicated since then.

One other forecast I made this year was that interest rates (the real ones in the market, not the ones the Fed has been raising) would increase sharply as people believed that the economy was improving.

That would be based mainly on better-than-expected spring employment figures.

And then, I predicted, rates would suddenly decline and go right back down to where they had been.

Rates did go up sharply, and they did back down just as abruptly. But it happened a lot quicker than I thought it would. My prediction was that borrowing costs would go back down by summer; they did it well before that timeframe on new concerns about the economy.

And therein lies the complication — we have an economy that one day looks strong and inflationary (higher rates) and the next day looks weak enough to topple over (low rates.)

So, here's what I think will happen: People will start talking about something called "stagflation." And the financial markets aren't going to like it.

Stagflation means the economy isn't doing much of anything (stagnation) and yet there is still worrisome inflation.

This economic dilemma surfaced clearly this week when housing starts and the stock market both showed big declines while inflation on the producer and consumer levels said, "boo."

And each tick up in inflation takes an equal-size chunk out of real economic growth.

But it's not even that simple. Just as we start getting comfortable with this stagflation nightmare there will be instances that divert our attention more to the "stag" part or more to the "flation" part of the word. And both of the diversions could come in May.

First will be a very important employment figure scheduled for release on May 7.

If this estimate causes overall job growth to explode, then the market will worry about an economy that's too strong and inflationary. If the employment number is low — regardless of the adjustments — Wall Street will worry that the economy is stagnating.

The consensus is that the Federal Reserve will continue its wrong-headed plan to raise interest rates in May. This too is a doubled edged sword ready to slice the market.

If the Fed does raise rates for the eighth time in a year, the markets will be concerned that this could be another blow to the economy. If it doesn't raise rates, Wall Street will be terrified that the Fed is panicking.

What else?

Along the way professional traders will use any opportunity they can find to rally stock prices. And usually a good time is just as the weather gets warm and trading volume, and overall attention to the market, starts to wane.

So the final word is: this market will be very tricky for the next few months.

http://nypost.com/business/23277.htm
 
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Old cowboy just takes everything in stride.

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He knows that bears can't ride bulls, just waiting for the bear to make a wrong move.
 
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Factoid of the Day - Friday, April 22, 2005
Of the 188 companies in the S&P 500 that have released their earnings for the first quarter, 85% have either met or topped estimates, according to Thomson First Call. Profit growth estimates have jumped from 7.6% to 11.9% since the beginning of the quarter. Due to this spring's correction, stocks in the S&P 500 are now selling at 15.5 times estimated 2005 earnings, a level not seen since the second quarter of 1995.


does anyone like the C fund at all anymore??;)

tekno
 
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teknobucks wrote:
does anyone like the C fund at all anymore??;)

tekno
Nice info on the S&P tekno! :^

Have learned not to like any fund! They are tools and options only!

Now I do like fishing! There ain't nothing better then a pan fried crappie! Oh! and a bud!

Have a good weekend my friend!

Rgds. :) Spaf
 
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teknobucks wrote:
does anyone like the C fund at all anymore??;)
I do, I do! I've been saying the S&P 500 is 32.7% undervalued based on forward earnings estimates vs. 10 yr T-note. The reasons Iput moneyin the S fund is that small caps have become so out of favor (contrarian thing) andthey have been hit the hardest during this leg down, they should move up nicely when we get a rally. But I agree, the C fund should be your main investment this year.
 
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Crappie are good... sunnies and perch aren't bad, either.

Bass and walleye are tasty as well. :D
 
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Mike wrote:
Crappie are good... sunnies and perch aren't bad, either.
Bass and walleye are tasty as well. :D
The difference is in the actual fishing - fishing for crappie is much more relaxing than doing the bass - :u
 
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you guys need to eat some grouperor snapper:D



Copyright 2005 The McGraw-Hill Companies, Inc. http://www.mcgrawhill.com
All Rights Reserved

Business Week

April 25, 2005

SECTION: Business Outlook: U.S. ECONOMY; Pg. 31 Vol. 3930

LENGTH: 1180 words

HEADLINE: U.S.: Oil Prices Shouldn't Stall This Growth Engine;
Domestic demand is strong enough to keep the expansion going

BYLINE: By James C. Cooper & Kathleen Madigan

BODY:


Is the 2005 economy headed for a spring break like that of 2004? The cause of last year's second-quarter soft patch can be summed up in three words: oil, oil, and oil. Spiking energy prices curtailed growth, especially for consumer spending. Now the worry is another slowdown, given that the average gasoline price hit a record $2.28 per gallon in the week ended Apr. 11.

However, the economy this year is in much better shape than it was last year. First of all, consumers are benefiting from stronger job markets. Second, the financial markets are easily absorbing the series of Federal Reserve tightenings, and long-term interest rates are lower now than they were last May and June.

Finally, the business sector is more willing to spend than it was in the past. One aspect of the latest oil spike is that businesses are using energy costs as a reason to raise prices generally. Business will play a much bigger role in the expansion this year thanks to better pricing power across more industries.

All this is not to imply that costlier oil isn't negatively affecting the economy. It is. Weaker-than-expected March retail sales, along with recent consumer-confidence measures and surveys of businesses, suggest that higher energy bills are curbing some optimism and spending plans. And in coming weeks additional data for March and April could show a bit of softness. Higher oil prices are also contributing to the widening of the U.S. trade deficit, which by itself probably subtracted at least one percentage point from growth in the first quarter.

It is worth noting, though, that although crude-oil prices have been on an upward climb for a year, the U.S. economy managed to grow almost 4% in the same period. Moreover, by mid-April, oil was sharply below its recent peak of $57. The key here is that the new round of oil-price hikes comes at a time when overall demand is sturdier and more widespread than at any previous point in this expansion. Shocks usually cannot derail a well-balanced and growing economy. Struggling economies are more at risk. Just look at the euro zone (page 32).



FED POLICYMAKERS took note of the U.S. economy's momentum during their Mar. 22 meeting. In the minutes, released on Apr. 12, the Fed discussed the strength of U.S. demand and its potential effect on inflation.

The minutes said strong income gains and higher wealth are supporting consumer spending, which is on track to post another healthy advance in the first quarter. Business spending on equipment, outside of cars, seemed to be growing briskly last quarter, the Fed noted, adding that the positive outlook for business investment could be attributed to steadily rising sales, an ongoing need to replace and upgrade software and equipment, and favorable financing costs. Inventory building probably also contributed to growth in the first quarter. Overall, the Fed's staff projected that the economy would most likely grow faster than its long-run potential, a pace generally accepted to be about 3.5%, both this year and next.

One crucial assumption at the late March meeting was that oil prices would ``level out or decline a bit.'' But some attendees noted that ``a significant unwinding of higher energy costs might not be in prospect.'' Moreover, anecdotal reporting by the Fed showed business executives believed robust demand and a weaker dollar meant ``a degree of 'pricing power' had returned.''

The Fed appears to expect higher energy costs will exert a small degree of pressure on nonenergy prices. But how small will depend on how robust demand remains this spring and summer. If businesses can pass along bigger-than-expected price increases, policymakers would most likely lift interest rates more aggressively.



THAT'S WHY CONSUMER BEHAVIOR in the face of higher energy prices is worth watching. Indeed, the Fed may be expecting higher energy bills to slow consumer spending, as it did last spring. In March, when gasoline prices averaged $2.08 per gallon, up from $1.91 in February, retail sales rose only 0.3%, after a 0.5% increase in February. Sales at gas stations jumped 2.1%, almost all due to higher prices. But excluding gas purchases, retail sales still increased 0.1%.

For the entire first quarter, retail sales exclusive of gasoline and autos grew at close to the same pace they did in the fourth quarter (chart). The showing suggests real consumer spending on all goods and services increased at an annual rate in the neighborhood of 3.5% for the quarter. Such a vigorous pace supports the forecast that real gross domestic product expanded by about 3.5% last quarter.

Why is energy exerting less of a drag on consumer spending this time around? One reason is that $2-a-gallon gas no longer carries the sticker shock it once did. Also, as the Fed noted, consumer finances and the outlook for the labor market are much rosier now than a year ago.

For instance, the unemployment rate was a half-point higher in March, 2004, than the 5.2% hit in March, 2005, with 2.1 million more jobs created over the past year. Real aftertax income is growing at a solid 3.3% from its year-ago levels. In addition, households are getting more cash back from Uncle Sam. For tax returns certified by Apr. 8, refunds are averaging $2,189. That's up 4.7% from the comparable 2004 period. Those larger checks will let consumers cover their higher energy bills and still spend for other goods and services.



ONE AREA WHERE OIL should exert a continued drag is the trade sector. The U.S. monthly trade deficit hit another record in February, rising to $61 billion, from $58.5 billion in January. Higher oil shipments, along with a jump in imports of phamaceuticals, caused imports to rise 1.6% in February. Exports were virtually flat.

Oil imports surged 10.3% in February. Expect them to rise into the second quarter. That's because February marked only the start of the recent hike in oil prices, and refiners will be boosting their imports of oil in order to produce gasoline for the all-important summer driving season.

But oil was not all to blame for the worsening trade deficit. Real imports of nonauto consumer goods have gone up over 20% over the past year (chart). One reason is the end of quotas on textiles and clothing at the start of this year. Apparel and consumer textile imports rose 14% in the first two months of this year compared with the same period of 2004, while textile jobs in the U.S. dropped by 17,000 in the first quarter, the largest loss in more than a year. Most of the new textiles are probably being shipped from China, a trend that is contributing to the political tension between that economic powerhouse and the U.S. (page 37).

The bump up in textile imports illustrates a crucial piece of the U.S. economic outlook. Domestic demand is so strong, it is boosting production both in the U.S. and overseas. This solid, broad base of demand is why oil has so far not hampered growth. Unless a surprise supply disruption causes oil prices to skyrocket, the economy should be able to weather the oil-price sequel of 2005.



GRAPHIC: illustration, Illustration: Chart: Retail Sales Held Up Last Quarter CHARTS BY ERIC HOFFMANN/BW
illustration, Illustration: Chart: Where Imports Are Growing The Fastest CHARTS BY ERIC HOFFMANN/BW

LOAD-DATE: April 21, 2005
 
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post from a bear on another board...grandma the second url from the bottom is the one which had quit working a while back:

It Is Said That One Must Make Hay When The Sun Is Shining. But, In The Bear's World We Make And Rake Hay When The Sun Goes Down On The Bulls.
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The Bear Reminded Me Again Not To Get Lazy Nor Complacent. So Be It.
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Out With The Old And In With The New!

The charts are telling us that the downturn into Phase II has likely begun and that this will be a global event.
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Please Notice The Striking Similarities:

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Another Amazing Chart WARNING Of What Is To Come:

The 911 Starting Line
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Please Allow 60 Seconds To Lock And Load!
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Turn It Up!
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This One Goes Out To The Rally Monkey
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Crank It Up!
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