Market Talk Page

imported post

This will be my last time on the soap box. :! All deaths are bad. I grew up on military bases and saw a notice given. We have lost our own. However, the death toll as bad as it is, and it is bad, does not reach the levels of many previous conflicts. Gettysburg, what some 50,000 people in three days. What percentage of our population at that time was that? That war, Civil war or The War Between The States. (That depends where you come from.) Took more American lives then any other. We came through it and we will come through this. Stronger if we stand together. At least unlike theVietnam Conflict, (War we were never allowed to fight) our troops now have our support.:^ I would like to have our troops home. I would have done things differently. We are there now and need to keep our sights straight. The reason we lost the Vietnam war was political not military. The Tet Offensive was a military victory for us. The loss was with the American People and the stupid politicians cost us our loss there. We will prevail as long as the American people can stand together. That is the only way we can lose. We have lost too many good people there to back off now. I was not happy that we put ground forces there. However, all in or all out.

God Bless our Military and all those that Serve. Their Deaths and sacrifices can not be allowed to go invane.:u For this reason I support the mission and in so doing support our troops.:^ I also support your right to disagree.Just if you have never served or beena military Brat then perhaps you need to see the other side of the coin.:u

I am 100 percent G fund. Hope I'm right. For those of you in the Market I wish you all the best. In this way I can not lose. LOL
 
imported post

Learning appreciate your reply. I also do not want to go around and around...there is a reason we are basically there alone now and our Pres is going around the Europe now graveling for support like all superpowers do. U.S. dollar will continue to go down and down. If you follow history it does repeat itself.
 
imported post

teknobucks wrote:
BAAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAAAAOOOOOOOOH!

MY!

GAWD!


We are now about to enter one of the most powerful geocosmic cluster zones of the year. From February 25 through March 26 (29 calendar days) there will be 12 important geocosmic signatures, of which 7 are Level One (most powerful) types. Six of these Level One signatures occur March 4-21.
Whoo-hoOOo! SIX Level One geocosmic cluster zones! Take that, MT!! bahaha

Yeah, that was a 'bull' run alright...
 
imported post

SCOTT RITTER SAYS U.S. PLANS JUNE ATTACK ON IRAN, ‘COOKED’ JAN. 30 IRAQI ELECTION RESULTS
By Mark Jensen

February 19, 2005

Scott Ritter, appearing with journalist Dahr Jamail yesterday in Washington State, dropped two shocking bombshells in a talk delivered to a packed house in Olympia’s Capitol Theater. The ex-Marine turned UNSCOM weapons inspector said that George W. Bush has "signed off" on plans to bomb Iran in June 2005, and claimed the U.S. manipulated the results of the recent Jan. 30 elections in Iraq.

Olympians like to call the Capitol Theater "historic," but it's doubtful whether the eighty-year-old edifice has ever been the scene of more portentous revelations.

The principal theme of Scott Ritter's talk was Americans’ duty to protect the U.S. Constitution by taking action to bring an end to the illegal war in Iraq. But in passing, the former UNSCOM weapons inspector stunned his listeners with two pronouncements. Ritter said plans for a June attack on Iran have been submitted to President George W. Bush, and that the president has approved them. He also asserted that knowledgeable sources say U.S. officials "cooked" the results of the Jan. 30 elections in Iraq.

On Iran, Ritter said that President George W. Bush has received and signed off on orders for an aerial attack on Iran planned for June 2005. Its purported goal is the destruction of Iran’s alleged program to develop nuclear weapons, but Ritter said neoconservatives in the administration also expected that the attack would set in motion a chain of events leading to regime change in the oil-rich nation of 70 million -- a possibility Ritter regards with the greatest skepticism.

The former Marine also said that the Jan. 30 elections, which George W. Bush has called "a turning point in the history of Iraq, a milestone in the advance of freedom," were not so free after all. Ritter said that U.S. authorities in Iraq had manipulated the results in order to reduce the percentage of the vote received by the United Iraqi Alliance from 56% to 48%.

Asked by UFPPC's Ted Nation about this shocker, Ritter said an official involved in the manipulation was the source, and that this would soon be reported by a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist in a major metropolitan magazine -- an obvious allusion to New Yorker reporter Seymour M. Hersh.

On Jan. 17, the New Yorker posted an article by Hersh entitled The Coming Wars (New Yorker, January 24-31, 2005). In it, the well-known investigative journalist claimed that for the Bush administration, "The next strategic target [is] Iran." Hersh also reported that "The Administration has been conducting secret reconnaissance missions inside Iran at least since last summer." According to Hersh, "Defense Department civilians, under the leadership of Douglas Feith, have been working with Israeli planners and consultants to develop and refine potential nuclear, chemical-weapons, and missile targets inside Iran. . . . Strategists at the headquarters of the U.S. Central Command, in Tampa, Florida, have been asked to revise the military’s war plan, providing for a maximum ground and air invasion of Iran. . . . The hawks in the Administration believe that it will soon become clear that the Europeans’ negotiated approach [to Iran] cannot succeed, and that at that time the Administration will act."
 
imported post

teknobucks wrote: anyone buy MRK???:)
tsptalk wrote: ...let me approach it from the psychological angle.

... the worst is probablypriced into the share price already....If there are no sellers, the only way to go is up. That is over simplifying it but that is how things work.
I must disagree with Tom. If there are no sellers, a stock can still go down. If future earnings continue to plummet, then a company's shares will likely continue todepreciate. Do you really think that the Enron shareholders sold their shares? How about the K Mart shareholders? How about many of the dot.coms of the 1990s? Many still held on.....yet...their shares became....worthless.

With respect to Merck, we don't yet know the ramifications of the lawsuits. Could the company face bankruptcy?

Remember that, at the present time, besides facing $30 billion dollars in Vioxx lawsuits,

"Merck is grappling with much more than Vioxx. The company is facing a product pipeline that is running dry, impending loss of patent protection on several huge-selling drugs and ongoing concerns about a successor to its near-retirement chief executive, Ray Gilmartin. "The underlying strength of their business continues to be poor," said C.J. Sylvester, a pharmaceutical-industry analyst at Banc of America Securities.

I am not saying that Tom is necessarilywrong. The stock could rally. What I'm saying is that"the only way to go is up" is just not true.
 
imported post

saraho wrote:
I am not saying that Tom is necessarilywrong. The stock could rally. What I'm saying is that"the only way to go is up" is just not true.
I didn't say"the only way to go is up" for MRK. I was pointing out a sentiment principle that "If there are no sellers, the only way to go is up". You left out the important part. ;)

Like I said, I don't recommend this stock, but let's see what happens. Current price $32.61.
 
imported post

Smith Barney Lays Off Entire US Technical Analysis Team
February 17, 2005:

NEW YORK (Dow Jones)--Citigroup Inc.'s (C) Smith Barney unit has fired its entire U.S. technical analysis team, on the heels of a number of stock analysts it laid off last week.

The latest layoffs took place Thursday morning and involved the technical analysis team led by managing director Louise Yamada and about nine other technicians and support staff.

Yamada, who was with the firm for 24 years, has been ranked a top market technician by Institutional Investor for a number of years. She did not respond to a call for comment.

The move was part of Smith Barney's efforts to make limited staff reductions that are consistent with fundamental objectives to keep expenses low while continuing to invest in areas where the firm sees growth opportunities, a representative said.

Technical analysts use charts and supply and demand patterns to get a bead on whether stocks or sectors are attractive and pose buying opportunities. The offices that Yamada and her team worked out of contained charts dating back decades that tracked the movement of major stock indexes and the group published a weekly report, "Market Interpretations."

In a note to employees, Bill Kennedy, the firm's director of global equity research, wrote, "While a difficult decision, we believe focusing our research investments toward fundamental company coverage best positions Citigroup to succeed in an increasingly competitive environment."

Last week, Smith Barney fired at least six stock analysts, in addition to cuts at Citigroup's corporate and investment bank, which are expected to affect about 1,000 of that unit's 48,000 employees.

-By Karen Talley, Dow Jones Newswires, 201-938-5106; karen.talley@dowjones.com

Dow Jones Newswires 02-17-05 1315ET Copyright (C) 2005 Dow Jones & Company, Inc. All Rights Reserved.

http://money.cnn.com/services/tickerheadlines/for5/200502171315DOWJONESDJONLINE001030_FORTUNE5.htm
 
imported post

America on a Collison Course with Russia

So what is the next flashpoint in the series of Russian-U.S. conflict? Will the mighty Russian bear launch an all out attack on American interests in Eurasia? We do not think so. In fact, recent actions by the Russian Central Bank may give us a clue. On December 8th, the chairman of the Russian Central Bank, Sergei Ignatyev, told members of the State Duma that the Central Bank is considering a change in the composition of its foreign exchange reserves, decreasing the shares of U.S. dollars. This is the same type of economic warfare we expect from China in the coming years. The first point: the dollar decline we have seen over the last two years may just be getting started. The second point: expect to hear more about an energy-inspired alliance between Russia & China, and possibly Iran.

http://www.safehaven.com/article-2615.htm
 
imported post

Representative Ron Paul and Monetary Sanity:

Representative Ron Paul: "Mr. Greenspan, yesterday you were quoted as saying it was imperative that the Congress restore fiscal discipline. And of course you've made that point, I think, very often over the years. I have tried my best to vote accordingly, but sometimes I find myself in a lonely category.

I have found that we have a group here that is quite willing to vote for deficits for domestic programs. Then we have another group that's quite willing to spend for militarism abroad. Then we have another group that likes both. So if you look around for people who are willing to maybe cut in both areas, it's pretty hard to come by.

But you, in the past, in answer to some of my questions have answered that you believe that central bankers have come around to getting paper money to act in many ways just like gold, and therefore, there was less of an imperative for a gold standard. I haven't yet been convinced of that.

Take, for instance, the current account deficit. You know, under a gold standard there's a lot of self-adjustment. And we certainly wouldn't have the exchange rate distortions between the renminbi and the dollar. So I think there's a lot of shortcomings under the paper standard with the current account deficit.

Also, although the argument is made that the CPI reflects that there's little or no inflation, that if you look at the price of bonds or if you look at the cost of medicine, if you look at the cost of energy, there's a lot of price inflation out there. And also, if you look at the cost of houses, which are skyrocketing, which then is reflected into tax increases, the consumer is still suffering from a lot of price inflation that we in many ways in Washington try to deny.

But I think in an effort to discipline the Congress that the Federal Reserve would have a role to play as well, because in many ways the Federal Reserve accommodates the spending because you're capable of buying bonds, and when you buy our debt that we create, you do it with credit it out of thin air. So it is that facility of the monetary system that literally encourages or actually tells the Congress they don't need to be disciplined because there's always this fallback, that we don't have to worry, the money's out there, which would not be available, obviously, under a gold standard. But I would like to quote from a famous economist that sort of defends my position. It says -- he says, 'In almost a hysterical antagonism toward the gold standard, is one issue which unites statists of all persuasions. Government deficit spending under a gold standard is severely limited. The abandonment of the gold standard made it possible for the welfare statists to use the banking system as a means to an unlimited expansion of credit. They have created paper reserves in the form of government bonds.'

Further stating: 'In the absence of the gold standard, there is no way to protect savings from confiscation through inflation. Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the confiscation of wealth. Gold stands in the way of this insidious process. It stands as a protector of property rights. If one grasps this, one has no difficulty in understanding the statist antagonism toward the gold standard.' And, of course, I'm sure you recognize those words because this is your argument."

Mr. Greenspan: "I do."

Representative Ron Paul: "And I would say that isn't it time -- if we ever get concerned about our deficit spending, and we've considered a real imperative, why shouldn't we talk about serious monetary reform? Do you think that the gold standard would limit spending here in the Congress?

Mr. Greenspan: "First of all, that was written 40 years ago, and I was mistaken, in part. I expected things that didn't happen. And nonetheless, my general view towards the type of gold-standard effect remains to this day -- my forecast of what was going to happen subsequent to that period has proved, fortunately, wrong. And as I said to you in the past, we have tried to manage the Federal Reserve over the years, really since October 1979 - because remember, up to that point we were in some very serious inflationary trouble -- since then I think we have been remarkably successful, in my judgment.

And while I still think that the gold standard served us very considerably during the 19th century, and mimicking much of what the gold standard does is what we do today, I think in that context so far we have maintained a stable monetary system. And I do not think that you could claim that [the] central bank is facilitating the expansion of expenditures in this country."
 
imported post

Iraqi government arrests Iranian terrorist cell leader

SEC-IRAQ-UNREST
Iraqi government arrests Iranian terrorist cell leader

BAGHDAD, Feb 20 (KUNA) -- An Iranian national was arrested in Iraq on charges of smuggling foreign fighters and weapons into Iraq, the interim government said Sunday.

Jaafar Sadeq Fetteh, also charged with sending Iraqis abroad to receive military training, was arrested near Balad Rose governorate last Thursday, the government said in a statement.

It added the 45-year-old Fetteh was the leader of a "big terrorist cell" consisting of 100 persons.

The cell members work on smuggling foreign fighters and weapons inside Iraq, as well as sending Iraqis outside the country to receive training to carry out "terrorist attacks" against the Iraqi security forces.

The statement claimed that Fetteh admitted having links to the "Iranian intelligence," and that he had attempted to kill an intelligence officer and local dignitaries.

On another front, the government announced the killing of two members of the outlawed Zarqawi's group in Baghdad.

The two men were named by their nick names, Abu Reem and Abu Al-Ezz. They were accused of carrying out media and internet activities for the Zarqawi network. (end) mhg.

http://www.kuna.net.kw/Home/Story.aspx?Language=en&DSNO=706648
 
imported post

Danny Gabay: When the Fed stops its neutral talking, we'll know the squeeze is about to be applied
20 February 2005


Once upon a time, Alan Greenspan, the Federal Reserve chairman, revelled in his ability to leave his audience none the wiser as to what he had just said. He famously once told Congress: "I guess I should warn you, if I turn out to be particularly clear, you've probably misunderstood what I've said."

But make no mistake, Mr Greenspan is a man who knows the power of words, particularly his own. In fact, in recent years, he and his colleagues at the Fed have become rather adept at nuancing their message in order to elicit a desired response from the bond market.

At his biannual testimony to Congress on the state of the US economy last week, Mr Greenspan noted that despite six successive quarter-point increases, US interest rates remain "relatively low". That may not sound like much to get excited about. But it was enough to send the bond market into a tailspin, pushing up interest rates across the world. The implication of his comments is that interest rates have a way to go. The question for the bond market and US consumers, is how much further?

Before exploring this issue, we should first set out why interest rates are rising at all. The period of extraordinary global liquidity ushered in by the first cut in US interest rates in 2001 is coming to an end. Having pushed interest rates down to exceptionally low levels globally, central banks are now engaged in the process of removing that liquidity. Unless rates rise globally, inflation - that double-headed demon of the 1970s and 1980s - might be unleashed again. Do not listen to those who speak of the death of inflation: if it were a bear, it would simply be hibernating.

This is perhaps most evidently true for the United States. Last year, US inflation reached its highest level in four years, and it shows no sign of slowing down. Indeed, the evidence from the early stages of the price pipeline is that inflationary pressures are mounting, not abating.

The falling value of the dollar is exacerbating this inflationary impetus. As the currency weakens, it pushes up the price of imported goods and services to US consumers and businesses. That not only fuels higher inflation but also inflates the already record trade deficit the US runs with the rest of the world.

So how high will US interest rates have to go to stabilise inflation? The answer to this question depends crucially on the concept of a neutral interest rate. That is usually defined as the interest rate that would neither stimulate nor restrict inflation; the implication being that for any economy, there exists a rate of interest which will stabilise inflation at a desired level. This rate is traditionally given by adding the desired inflation rate to the underlying or trend rate of growth in the economy.

Hence in the UK that would imply a level of between 5 and 5.5 per cent, compared with the current rate of 4.75 per cent. In the US which has a stronger underlying rate of growth, it could imply a rate above 6 per cent.

However, this may oversimplify the issue. For one reason, while the UK does appear to conform to economic theory, the US does not. The first chart above shows that over the past hundred or so years, the average real interest rate in the UK has been more or less equal to the average rate of growth in the economy. But in the US the real interest rate has tended to be much lower than growth, perhaps reflecting the dollar's role as a reserve currency.

More importantly, a distinction should be made between the natural real interest rate - the rate at which the returns to saving (or investment) and consumption are equal - and the neutral real rate of interest, that at which inflation is stabilised. The former should be largely unaffected by the economic cycle, while the latter will vary over time with the economic cycle. This distinction could have important implications for investors and mortgage holders, as there will often be reasons for a gap, sometimes a significant one, to exist between estimates of the two concepts. We would argue that it is the neutral rather than the natural rate that should matter the most for monetary policy.

Policymakers recognise this distinction. But of course, no central bank claims to know for certain where the neutral rate is, so policymakers will often characterise the current level of interest rates as either stimulative (ie below the neutral rate) or restrictive (above the neutral rate). In essence, the central purpose of monetary policy is to increase or decrease interest rates, depending on what is appropriate, relative to some measure of the neutral rate. The actual interest rate should be below neutral when the economy is weak and above it when it is strong.

The gap between the actual interest rate and the neutral rate is therefore a measure of how restrictive or loose monetary policy is. Right now, we would argue that US monetary policy is too loose. We have derived an estimate of the real neutral rate using an empirical model.

The second chart above shows how our estimate of the neutral real interest rate in the US has evolved relative to the actual interest rate since 1985. After rising in the late 1990s, the neutral rate has fallen back since 2000. To some extent, this has reflected the decline in the average inflation rate over the same time. But the successively lower peaks may also indicate an improving output-inflation trade-off. Hence the neutral US policy rate may now be as low as 4 per cent. That is a good deal lower than the more simplistic estimate of the natural rate, but given recent inflation readings, neutral may no longer be enough. But remember, the first hint that the Fed is getting worried will come via its words rather than its actions.

Danny Gabay is a partner at Fathom Financial Consulting, www.fathom-consulting.com

Thank heaven for American consumers

Much is made, particularly in Europe, of the potential threat to the global economic system posed by America's seemingly insatiable appetite for consumption, and its apparent antipathy towards saving. The US runs a huge deficit on its trade with the rest of the world, while its government runs a huge budget deficit. Neither deficit is sustainable. Both are a source of concern. But not, perhaps, as much as some would have you believe.

Having inherited a small surplus from the Clinton administration, George Bush has plunged the budget into the red, to the tune of over $400bn. But he has now unveiled a plan to halve this deficit by 2009, largely by cutting funding to some 150 federal programs.

It is an ambitious plan. But by far the most controversial aspect of the package is the proposed partial privatisation of the social security fund. Since its inception in 1935, the US social security system has included a trust fund from which payments are made. It has until now been in surplus - that is, contributions have outpaced payments. But this is set to change.

The non-partisan Congressional Budget Office argues that by 2020 the fund will be in deficit. The proportion of those over 65 is set to double by 2050, while those in work will only increase by 20 per cent. Hence, the situation will only get worse. The Bush plan is to allow individuals to set up private accounts to save for their own retirement.

This amounts to a partial privatisation of the fund and is likely to meet with stiff resistance from the Democrats. But it is a first step in recognising that there is a problem. And that contrasts sharply with the ostrich-like approach of the Japanese and several European governments, which face a far more acute problem.

Turning to the trade deficit, it is true that Americans consume too much. They live beyond their means and are reliant on the rest of the world's savings to finance that consumption. But it is also true that without those American consumers, there would be precious little growth around.

While the British and French economies are performing well, the eurozone as a whole remains weak. German growth is still an oxymoron, while Japan has quietly slipped back into recession - its third in four years.

Until these economies can begin to generate their own domestic demand, we should be grateful for America and its consumers.
20 February 2005 08:09
 
imported post

saraho wrote:
In our quest to clear the world of terrorists, I fear that we have made 10x more.

And our involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan is making Vietnam and Korea look like sideshows. I fear that, when it is all over, we will have far more injuries and deaths as a result of our latest incursions than from the other two mini-wars combined.
Sideshows?

Don't do it Mike, don't do it.....................
 
imported post

Appears we are loved worldwide:

Chavez to suspend oil exports to US in case of assassination attempt

02-20-2005

CARACAS (AFP) - Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez threatened to suspend oil exports to the United States if someone tries to assassinate him, adding that US President George W. Bush would be to blame.

"If they kill me, there will be a really guilty party on this planet whose name is the president of the United States, George Bush," Chavez said on his weekly radio program, "Hello, Mr. President."

"If, by the hand of the devil, those perverse plans succeed ... forget about Venezuelan oil, Mr. Bush," he said.

Chavez said he was convinced that Washington was "sketching out the assassination plans" before his Bolivarian Revolution advances in Venezuela and Latin America.

Chavez revealed a week ago that Cuban President Fidel Castro had warned him of a US assassination plot.

"Now, I am going to say it. Neither Fidel Castro nor I talk nonsense.

"If something happens to me, I blame the president of the United States," he said.

"I will not hide. I am going to be in the streets with you. I entrust myself to God, but I know that I have been condemned to die," Chavez said.

"Each second of my life I will spend in the struggle and God's will be done," he said.

Castro said on February 12: "If Chavez is assassinated, the blame will fall on Bush.

"I say that as someone who has survived hundreds of the empire's (assassination) plans," he said.

Chavez has also recently accused the United States of being involved in an April 2002 coup, which removed him from power for less than two days.

Washington has accused Chavez of being undemocratic especially when it comes to the Venezuelan opposition, and has more recently criticized arms purchases from Russia and Brazil.

Venezuela is the only Latin American member of the Organization of the Petroleum Producing Countries, and sells about 1.5 million barrels daily to the United States, nearly as much as Saudi Arabia.

US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice recently called Chavez "a negative force" in Latin America, and the State Department backed Colombia in a recent dispute between the Caribbean neighbors over the arrest of a Colombian rebel in Caracas by Colombian officials without Venezuela's knowledge or consent.
 
imported post

And with all this going on worldwide - what is the master plan:

More Military Bases in U.S. to Be Closed
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...e/base_closings

Sun Feb 20,12:50 PM ET

WASHINGTON - [size=-1]Safe for a decade, military bases in the United States face an uncertain future. [/size][size=-1]The Pentagon (http://news.search.yahoo.com/search/news?fr=news-storylinks&p=%22Pentagon%22&c=&n=20&yn=c&c=news&cs=nw]news[/url] - http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=web-storylinks&p=Pentagon]web sites[/url]) plans to shut down or scale back some of the 425 facilities, the first such effort to save money in 10 years. The downsizing is part of Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld's long-term transformation of the Cold War-era military.

[/size]
[size=-1]The Pentagon chief argues that closing or consolidating stateside facilities could save $7 billion annually and that the money would be better spent improving fighting capabilities amid threats from terrorists.

[/size]
[size=-1]"The department continues to maintain more military bases and facilities than are needed, consuming and diverting valuable personnel and resources," Rumsfeld recently told lawmakers.

[/size]
[size=-1]Shrinking the domestic network of Army, Navy, Air Force and Marine Corps bases is a certain source of savings. It also is a high-stakes political fight because it affects local economies in congressional districts.

[/size]
[size=-1]Lawmakers have resisted efforts to shutter their bases, challenging past base closing rounds and lobbying hard to keep their installation off the final list.

[/size]
[size=-1]"It's the perfect example of good policy and good politics not fitting in the same room together," said Christopher Hellman, an analyst with the Center for Arms Control and Nonproliferation in Washington.

[/size]
[size=-1]"Conceptually, lawmakers buy the argument that base closures are important to make sure they are spending resources wisely. But they are reticent of closing bases in their cities because of job losses," Hellman said.

[/size]
[size=-1]Rumsfeld has estimated that extra base capacity is at nearly 25 percent. But Republican lawmakers said the secretary recently told them that the cuts will not be as deep, in part because the military needs a home for 70,000 troops returning from Europe.

[/size]
[size=-1]The Pentagon says that all domestic bases are under consideration, but clearly some are more vulnerable than others.

[/size]
[size=-1]Topping the list are aging facilities, small bases used by only one of the four services and large installations whose missions, training, ammunition or weapons are outdated. [/size][size=-1]

The Northeast is home to many bases configured to defend against the Soviet threat. They could absorb the biggest hit now that many former Soviet bloc nations are U.S. allies.

[/size]
[size=-1]Congress authorized the fifth round of Base Realignment and Closure — commonly known as BRAC — last year. The first deadline in the yearlong process is March 15, when President Bush (http://news.search.yahoo.com/search/news?fr=news-storylinks&p=%22President%20Bush%22&c=&n=20&yn=c&c=news&cs=nw]news[/url] - http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=web-storylinks&p=President%20Bush]web sites[/url]) must name a nine-member commission that will review a list of closures that Rumsfeld will propose by May.

[/size]
[size=-1]Congressional leaders have submitted their six recommendations. Bush will make his three choices known shortly.

[/size]
[size=-1]Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., selected retired Gen. John G. Coburn, a former Army deputy chief of staff, and retired Navy Adm. Harold W. Gehman Jr., a former supreme allied commander of the Atlantic.

[/size]
[size=-1]House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., offered former Rep. James V. Hansen, R-Utah, and former Transportation Secretary Samuel Skinner.

[/size]
[size=-1]Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada picked former Democratic Rep. James Bilbray, D-Nev. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., recommended Phillip E. Coyle, a former Pentagon official and a defense researcher. [/size][size=-1]

As the process gets under way, lawmakers and communities are stepping up efforts to show their bases are essential. They also are lobbying for new missions and projects for their facilities to make the bases less attractive for closure. [/size]


[size=-1]Congress authorized the closures last year, rejecting a delay until 2007. Still, some Republicans and Democrats continue to fight. [/size]

[size=-1]"I will try to stop it at any point and in any way I possibly can," said Sen. Trent Lott (http://news.search.yahoo.com/search/news?fr=news-storylinks&p=%22Sen.%20Trent%20Lott%22&c=&n=20&yn=c&c=news&cs=nw]news[/url], http://yahoo.capwiz.com/y/bio/?id=342]bio[/url], http://yahoo.capwiz.com/y/bio/keyvotes/?id=342]voting record[/url]), R-Miss. Closing bases while the country is at war is "the worst possible timing," Lott says. [/size]

[size=-1]He lobbied hard during previous rounds to keep open the Meridian Naval Air Station in Mississippi, which barely escaped closure. It could be targeted again this year. [/size]

[size=-1]Other lawmakers say the round will go forward. [/size]

[size=-1]"We had a debate. We voted. We had a majority say we're going forward. How could you possibly reverse it? It would be crazy," said Sen. John McCain (http://news.search.yahoo.com/search/news?fr=news-storylinks&p=%22Sen.%20John%20McCain%22&c=&n=20&yn=c&c=news&cs=nw]news[/url], http://yahoo.capwiz.com/y/bio/?id=192]bio[/url], http://yahoo.capwiz.com/y/bio/keyvotes/?id=192]voting record[/url]), R-Ariz. [/size]

[size=-1]Republican Sen. John Warner (http://news.search.yahoo.com/search/news?fr=news-storylinks&p=%22Sen.%20John%20Warner%22&c=&n=20&yn=c&c=news&cs=nw]news[/url], http://yahoo.capwiz.com/y/bio/?id=595]bio[/url], http://yahoo.capwiz.com/y/bio/keyvotes/?id=595]voting record[/url]) of Virginia, chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee (http://news.search.yahoo.com/search/news?fr=news-storylinks&p=%22Senate%20Armed%20Services%20Committee%22&c=&n=20&yn=c&c=news&cs=nw]news[/url] - http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=web-storylinks&p=Senate%20Armed%20Services%20Committee]web sites[/url]), said it was essential for the military to eliminate "those bases, structures, buildings, compounds that aren't on the very edge of what we need to defend ourselves." [/size]

[size=-1]The Pentagon estimates that previous closures in 1988, 1991, 1993 and 1995 eliminated 20 percent of domestic bases and saved about $16.7 billion through 2001, and roughly $7 billion annually since. [/size]

[size=-1]Congress has refused repeated requests by the Pentagon to close more bases since 1995. Part of the reason was lingering Republican distrust after President Clinton (http://news.search.yahoo.com/search/news?fr=news-storylinks&p=%22President%20Clinton%22&c=&n=20&yn=c&c=news&cs=nw]news[/url] - http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=web-storylinks&p=President%20Clinton]web sites[/url]) moved to ease the economic impact from two base closings in vote-rich California and Texas just before his re-election campaign in 1996. [/size]

[size=-1]In 2001, with Clinton out of office, the Pentagon nearly got its wish for closures in 2003. But after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, Congress delayed the closures until this year. [/size]
 
imported post

During the cold war we had one fire going...we got hotspots all over (even the Maple Leafs hate us)...and the plan is to downsize the military...in the wake of potentials problems with Russia, China, Korea, Iran, Syria, etc, etc. Their worried about social security reform...seems to me there is larger fish to fry right now? Social security is not going to bematter all that much if we are invaded...
 
imported post

Social security is small peanuts compared to medicare.

It is going to cost $72B a year and rising...it is now 15.5% of GDP.

Social security is less then 1% of GDP.

Where are we going to come up with $72B a year for medicare and $150-200B a year for the war on terror???? As more baby boomers retire the medicare costs will keep rising and rising. Could reach $100B a year by 2010.

http://www.sprott.com/pdf/marketsataglance/02-17-2005.pdf

The priorities are wrong all wrong.

I am looking to move to another country right now.
 
imported post

Dr_Dubious wrote:
Where are we going to come up with $72B a year for medicare and $150-200B a year for the war on terror????
the new fashioned way...we will print it!:^

really we do not need taxes...the printing presses can make all the money we need!

try new zealand...like the US in the 60's.
 
imported post

Dr_Dubious wrote:
During the cold war we had one fire going...we got hotspots all over (even the Maple Leafs hate us)...and the plan is to downsize the military...in the wake of potentials problems with Russia, China, Korea, Iran, Syria, etc, etc. Their worried about social security reform...seems to me there is larger fish to fry right now? Social security is not going to bematter all that much if we are invaded...
robots will fight our battles within 10-15 years.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/16/technology/16robots.html

USA is the only superpower along with that title comesBIG problems. We can fry a few fish at the same time.
 
Back
Top